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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:16 PM Original message |
Democrats Demand Changes In Obama-GOP Tax Deal |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm on board with this. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. If the GOP wants this deal let them pass the UI, DADT repeal, START, the DREAM ACT NOW |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Now were talking! That's it. nt |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. there u go again demanding Obama aim high instead of negotiating from weakness nt |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. The mistake we are making is assuming 0 wants the honorable thing. |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. +1 |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. He will give in to his MASTERS |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Throw in EFCA and I'll join too |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I wonder what changes they will ask for - and if they're achievable. nt |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. DADT, START, and Dream Act are already DOA with the GOP and Conservative Dems. nt |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Well then... |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. I for one will |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Well, I'm in favor of 'torpedoing the deal' |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. It's like buying a car. If you're not willing to walk away you will never get a deal... |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. cutting the tax on the FIRST $250,000 is a cut FOR ALL |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. They never once presented it that way - I wonder if it was because they felt |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. they shouldn't extend those either, IMO. n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well my hat's off to those standing strong. I, for one, was swayed by Obama's |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Chuck Todd just said on Hardball that the votes aren't there in the House... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. But did I just hear one of them say that they think he will get the vote? nt |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I don't know about that, but Chuck said Biden is busy whipping. nt |
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SugarShack (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't think workers worried about THEIR soc sec, expected to pay less for a year? |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. If my parents leave me $5 mil |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Actually, I don't like the estate tax because that's double taxation... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. There's no such thing as "double taxation". |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Not debate your actual point |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
58. Yes, all the examples aren't perfect |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Depends how you look at it |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. It is not double taxation. |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Yes, all large estates are unrealized capital gains. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
65. The genisis of the estate tax |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
67. It's not double taxation. If you receive an estate worth $10mil that's the first and last time ... |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. I expected this but it still gives me painful knots in my stomach |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
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floriduck (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. Dear Mr. President |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
16. Count me in Bernie! |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
62. If Bernie Sanders ever decides to throw his hat in the presidential ring |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. All the repukes were smiling in front of the cameras, which means that it sucks for US. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
22. If we're going down, let's go down SWINGING. |
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perdita9 (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Get the GOP bloody |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. Here's the line that says it all: |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Boy, this really takes me back to the 60s. nt |
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sweetapogee (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. my theory |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I may have entirely the wrong take on this. but |
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sweetapogee (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. ok |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. An interesting and thoughtful response. |
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sweetapogee (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:52 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. I |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I didn't notice the misspelling. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
63. Sorry. He's not that smart. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. If the rich do not lose those tax cuts, then the never will... |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I agree...if this passes as is....the tax cuts will be PERMANENT |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
29. I think of this as a "windfall" for heirs, They didn't have access before |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. rich people buy life insurance policies.... |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Only on the policy... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. yup! |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
40. No doubt a stern letter is coming. But to be realistic, deal with us |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
42. The part about this 'compromise' that really frosts me |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Hadn't heard that one ... wow!! Agree with you -- |
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James48 (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
46. SOLD OUT! |
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Optimistic (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
47. Here is my idea |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
51. Democrats found their spine. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. PLUS Obama accomplished ZIP for the unemployed whose benefits expired...!!! |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
54. NO DEAL. NO COMPROMISE. Good for Bernie Sanders. REC. nt |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
56. If they're not going to stop them now, they need to make the taxcuts for the wealthy end earlier |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
60. Obama is not the leader of Democrats anymore. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. as one DUer mentioned |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. "Republicans lined up to support the package" |
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