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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:24 PM Original message |
Obama calls WikiLeaks' "deplorable" - White House |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. good little defender of the status quo and ruling elites, that President |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
96. A servant for the ruling elites |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
106. That's what they teach 'em at Harvard Law (n/t) |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. His presidency is turning out to be deplorable |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. This. |
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pezDispenser (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. this |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. + millions n/t |
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t0dd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. +1 |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. indeed |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
77. I'm inclined to agree. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
82. +1000% ... |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
90. +1 |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. What is he supposed to say? He's trying to smooth things over with Foreign Diplomats. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. There was no need for him to name Wikileaks in any way. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. we wouldn't want to hurt wikileaks feelings? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. We wouldn't want to come off as enormous hypocrites |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. It appears both Govt's agreed it's not a problem |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Yes, it is hypocritical to condemn Wikileaks for the government's deplorable behavior. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. I don't get the "hypocrite" angle. Can you explain it to me? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It's buck passing. If I behave badly towards you |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I don't bad behavior was the issue for Obama and Calderon. More that stuff that was supposed to be |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I don't have a link to the cable/material at issue. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. I think I have a link to the main one in question. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Thanks! That cable is interesting when you consider |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Yes very interesting. (and there is going to be lots of interesting stuff coming) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Well, I know that the State Department sends millions to Latin American right wing groups |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. The Heritage Foundation? Well that figures, they are Masters of Disinformation |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. It's amazing. Whenever there is a particularly bizarre claim about Chavez |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. And there is always an "expert" from both places available to exude "gravitas" on the news shows |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. LOL |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. Ah luvs ya dearly, E, but ya'd be a helluva lousy diplomat |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I used to work at Small Claims here as a mediator. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I have no difficulty believing that |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #42 |
114. I bet EFerrari would do a hell of a lot better than most of the junior high mean girls we apparently |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. See posts #21 & 33. nt |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. it kind of makes me think of a bullying boss that finally gets caught at something |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama vowed to fight for transparency in government. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I never heard him vowing to leak Mexico's confidential emails |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Shhh! why bring rationality into the discussion? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. How is blaming another party for your insecure communications rational? |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. LOL I think that is the Sarah Palin position. Just for fun a story about it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. LOL! She also said that Julian Assange was unAmerican! |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. She's a wacky one that's for sure. And a real nasty piece of work - |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yep. That naughty librarian thing barely covers the Big Nasty. |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
59. Applauding a strawman argument by calling it rational |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. What WikiLeaks is doing is creating a new, globally interconnected Fourth Estate |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
89. no, it is the Fifth Estate-the Internet and Wikileaks |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Deleted message |
boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
83. "confidential emails" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. Criminal proceedings aimed at punishing a private person for communicating evidence |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
97. Little House servant Holder out to put that guy away |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. Dear Mr. President, |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. There is something about that statement that kind of puzzles me..WikiLeaks' |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Shoot the messenger. n/t |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. because WikiLeaks leaked Mexico's confidential cables |
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Lefta Dissenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
73. thank you |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
98. She starts off with a blatant lie that Wikileaks "dumped" anything |
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Lefta Dissenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. blatent lie? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Yes, to call the editorial process a "dump" is not only a lie |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. No Its a business call. They are dumping them over time to get ad revenue |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. "unless that disclosure served a greater purpose." |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. To be replaced with what?(nt) |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
113. Very false equivalence. You cannot rightly equate acts of or to private, self-supporting human |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Is deplorable the Australian word for good ? |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. Just another politician |
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junior college (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
15. The WikiLeaks have been a big letdown for me |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Because the Obama administration is covering up for them. |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I think I read that only less than 1% of the info that WikiLeaks has |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
74. Correct |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
76. 99% of the material from the Bush regime years remains to be released. |
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ProfessionalLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
17. Of course he does. Pfft. n/t |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. I think Obama's presidency has been deplorable. |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #21 |
123. Not staying home in Nov 2012 BUT... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
26. Yeah, well fuck that shit. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. That's what I don't get, the ineptness. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. A group that has documented, evidenced and revealed deplorable actions is called deplorable. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
116. In hindsight, I think I may have voted as much for Axelrod as I did for Obama. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #116 |
119. You know, maybe I did, too. Good point! |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. WikiLeaks' actions were heroic in the face of current US media corporate propaganda. |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
32. OBAMA = FAILURE!!! Wikileaks will make sure of this. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. The blame is not all Obama's by any means. |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. He should lead instead of being one of the crowd....... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Sure and leaders act within a context, too. n/t |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. thank you- |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
78. But one one of the campaign promises was changing the way Washington works, right? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. That's true. n/t |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
110. One should know by now that that kind of stuff |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
111. I dont think accepting espionage was part of the stump |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
117. If only he had campaigned on fitting in and over classifying, as usual, instead of on |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
118. Wikileaks has people on his side. Or so a poll said. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. Deleted message |
madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. Please, please I want more |
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Faith No More (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
57. No, YOU are deplorable Obama! |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. he's FAR better than the last president. |
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eklektoscdc (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. New to politics |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #63 |
120. Dude, what's your deal? You made is post, almost word for word, |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
66. Mr. President... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
67. Bug waging a pointless, counterproductive and illegal.. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
68. I wish I could say I was shocked by Obama's statement. n/t |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
69. Could someone point me to where Obama calls those who call for the death of Assange deplorable? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
71. Sorry Joanne, I marked unrecommend by accident. |
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Amaya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
75. who fucking cares what you think obama |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Hear! Hear! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
81. Says Mr. "Transparency in Government". nt |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. No kidding. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
85. Another brilliant demonstration of what a corrupt, little corporate toady you are, Mr. President. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
86. Wikileaks is patriotic...nt |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
87. You know who I find deplorable? |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:26 AM Response to Original message |
88. What does Bill Clinton think?... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
91. You see Felipe Calderon Wikileaks is saying you are stupid |
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Freetradesucks (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
92. I didn't realize that leaking confidential |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. So democratic values as freedom of the press shouldn't be Democratic party values |
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Freetradesucks (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. This isn't just freedom of the press, |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Why? Democracy is the government of the people for the people |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. Covering up war crimes and obstruction of justice is not privacy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. I didn't realize that covering up government corruption was national security! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #92 |
121. Which leaked info was "critical" to our national security? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #92 |
122. Please explain how Eric Clapton being asked to play in North Korea is critical to national security. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #92 |
124. "Democrat Party" |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
103. Well that settles the question as the President and Commander |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
104. No surprise here, blame it on the messenger, and not the government unable to keep secrets /nt |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Or worse -- a "government" that feels it has to keep secrets... (n/t) |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
105. Obama's erstwhile base calls |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
115. WikiLeaks exposing Pfizer’s unethical drug test on children is just |
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