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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:16 PM
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Bloomberg Says Democrats Should "Suck it Up"
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 01:20 PM by Roy Rolling
Source: Bloomberg

President Barack Obama should tell Democrats angered by his compromises with Republicans on extending tax cuts to “suck it up,” New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.

Obama “can’t just sit there and depend on ideology” because “leadership is about doing the possible, not sitting around and waiting for the perfect,” Bloomberg said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Bloomberg told business executives in Brooklyn last week that the U.S. economy will stagnate if Congress remains mired in partisan gridlock. Obama should tell Democratic critics his bipartisan tax-cut deal won’t be the only tough vote of his presidency, Bloomberg said on NBC.

“He says, ‘Look, this is what I did, this is the best I can do. Suck it up,’” Bloomberg said, when asked how Obama should deal with Democrats angered by the tax measure and other compromises with Republicans.



Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-12/bloomberg-says-obama-s-democratic-base-should-suck-it-up-.html



Why not tell the wealthiest Americans making over $250,000 a year to "suck it up" over the miniscule additional 4% they will pay on earnings ABOVE $250,000? They can afford it---even Warren Buffett says the wealthy have had it good and should pay more taxes. The top 2% are not the U.S. "job creators" like the talking points say---they are the U.S. job killers by investing the last tax cut overwhelmingly overseas. If tax cuts create jobs, then why did the last 9 years of tax cuts result in MORE unemployment and fewer jobs?
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:21 PM
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1. Bloomberg and the wealthiest in this nation can
"Suck it Up" themselves. I won't.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:53 PM
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11. What I don't understand is...
Why everyone is so afraid of perfection. It's as if this country just constantly settles for mediocrity.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:25 PM
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2. again and again, it must be pointed out that we don't have the votes
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:35 PM
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6. the choice
The choice is not between this bad tax legislation or the ideal tax proposal, the choice is between letting the current law as written expire or not. The threat of "after January 1 the Republicans will make it worse" is hollow----Obama has the veto pen and can simply veto an even greedier Republican bill. When is it time to make sacrifices? Now (no bill) or after another two years of top-heavy tax policy and even higher unemployment rates than now? If the Republicans want to hold their breath until they turn blue let them. It is better than getting worse by going down the same path that hasn't worked.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:41 PM
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8. so you would take up the Repuke tactics and hold the Middle Class hostage
Do you really think you can let the tax cuts all expire without hurting Middle Class families???

Maybe it won't affect you.
But don't pretend like it won't affect anybody.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:19 PM
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19. That kind of rhetoric won't fly any more.
I've had enough, and so have many more. We're going to be affected by anything they do, and not in a good way. I'm tired of being blackmailed and held hostage while Obama coddles those who throw the WORST invective.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:27 PM
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21. Don't spend your extra $1.67 a day all in one place.
The fact is that the letting the bush task cut expire is exactly the right thing to do.
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 08:42 AM
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46. "sacrifice"
Read my post---"sacrifice". Of course the middle class will be affected. But a little pain now will prevent a much bigger pain down the road. There is no free lunch as Republicans would have us believe. At this late stage of the game, all we can do is pick how we want the pain, not pick whether there is pain at all. Another $900 billion to the deficit may be the tipping point.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:42 PM
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9. Thank you.
:kick:
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:31 PM
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22. Yes, those are the choices. But, in fact, it's much starker than that
The choice, really, is between having a president side with the people or side with the wealthy elite. Obama has chosen his side. His blaming all of this on republicans is merely a canard. This giveaway to the rich is what Obama wants, including the heretofore unrequested provision to start the defunding and, later, dismantling of social security.

Obama has to go.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:06 PM
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28. The Repubs Aren't Holding THEIR Breath, They are Strangling the Unemployed
and they won't stop squeezing until they get what they want.
It sucks, but we have no options.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:45 PM
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33. I chose to fight rather than surrender any more to these repthugs
Your defeatist attitude makes me wonder about your loyalties.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:26 PM
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3. How about calling every damned Republican on the carpet
and telling them to quit "F*CKING it up?"
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:30 PM
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4. Billionaire to everyone else: suck it up
GFY, you technocratic elitist douchebag.
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armodem08 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:34 PM
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5. STFU, Mike. Your last hard day was long ago... n/t.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:36 PM
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7. What the richest say to us.
Typical.

"Suck it up" is easy to say when you're a multi-billionaire.

Well, if this 'deal' passes (and it probably will), then to hell with everything, I say.

Tax cuts for everyone!

No one should pay for anything!

Crank-up the money printing presses -- bailouts for everyone!

Responsibility is for suckers!

Having 'principles' is for stupid people!

Me first!
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:42 PM
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10. Ideology my ass, the damn bill is not fiscally responsible and Bloomberg
knows it.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:54 PM
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12. Tell the wealthy suck up four percent more.

And get their knives away from Social Security. People see what you're trying to do, and they are beginning to see what you've done.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:55 PM
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13. I mean, its not as if Bloomberg would be biased or anything....
It's not like the Bush tax cuts affect him*

*denotes sarcasm.
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Maineman Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:56 PM
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14. One small thing we can do...
Screem the following everywhere.

GOP means

Greedy
Ostentatious
Pernicious

Hey! Pay attention to what Republicans DO, not what they say!
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:57 PM
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15. HawkeyeX to Bloomburg - fuck off.
You should be paying FAR more in taxes but you keep getting those breaks that you DO not need.

Hawkeye-X
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:08 PM
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16. from the same ass who shut down NYC's largest homeless center, summer, a couple years back ....
after the city council stopped him from dumping the homeless on the street in the middle of winter.
and more than 50% of NYC voters managed to vote in the elitist, to a 3rd term as mayor.
about the only thing one can say for this humanity-challenged corpocrat, is that he's a bit better than giuliani.
i wonder if this country will have enough sense not to elevate him to the presidency, at some point.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:10 PM
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17. He can pretty much buy the Presidency at this point.
Our system is that corrupted.
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:25 PM
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20. sadly true. don't know why we even bother with the carnival any more. n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:34 PM
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23. That's it! It's not kabuki it's a carnival sideshow.
I was informed by a kabuki fan earlier that kabuki can be quite serious theater so I've been looking for a new metaphor.
Thanks for that. (tragic that we need it)
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:12 PM
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18. You know, I am
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 02:13 PM by tomg
really tired of these fucking assholes telling me all their horsehit about what we should and what we have to suck up.

I am in Florence right now ( coming home very soon) and I just came back from a solidarity march. I was walking down the street, and a major march goes by. A lot of people. I don't speak Italian but I just happened to ask a guy who had some what was up - The Resistenza and raised fist banners and the hammers and sickles should have clued me in - He told me "Solidarity - no racism, no sexism, justice to students and workers and foreigners and poor people." I asked if an American was welcome to march with them. He laughed and just said "Of course. Solidarity."

Its been a couple of years - a little more than two - since I was in the streets marching. Solidarity felt real again good tonight.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:35 PM
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25. Democrats have been "sucking it up," since the Reagan era....
you know "the trickle down," policy along with the onset of deregulation which has allowed the Bloomberg's, Cheney's, Bush's, corporate CEO's,to become more powerful and richer while the ones at the bottom of the trickle have/are withering and dying. I think it is a long time coming, that the wealthiest of "We the People," should try the "sucking it up." If they gave a damn about our democracy and "We the People," they would gladly share in the solutions and the problems which they created.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:34 PM
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24. Maybe Bloomberg should SUCK IT
up.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:49 PM
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26. SO...This BILLIONAIRE jackass tells us Dems to "suck it up"?
...what an asshole.

Hey Bloomberg (that name is damned close to "Turd Blossom")...kiss MY ass.

...jerkface.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:03 PM
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27. Why is anyone in the Democratic Party listening to what a Republican who stands to get lots of money
from this tax cut, says about his support of it?
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:14 PM
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29. Now where is that old Electrolux vacuum I could send him...
... cos if nothing sucks like an Electrolux, then perhaps I can exchange the Electrolux vacuum for him, cos I hear something that really sucks more...

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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:20 PM
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30. I know this is the wrong place to rant
But doesn't this seem typical ? It is the same type of condescending tone, with which men speak to women, I have a personal theory that the duelistic nature of our times to divide everything into an either/or category of black v white, man v woman, right v wrong, left v right, good v bad, etc, forces everything into a win/ lose situation. I see the Dem's as the female side if the coin, nurturing, caring, health, education and welfare, people and the Pukes as the male, aggressors of finance and offense.

Suck it up, girls.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:36 PM
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31. Bloomberg can KMA. n/t
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hankthecrank Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:43 PM
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32. as dick says go F*** O** nt
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 03:44 PM by hankthecrank
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:13 PM
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34. Or in other words, he can go Bloomberg himself.
Perhaps not quite the same zip, but the sentiment is there.:mad:
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:50 PM
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35. How about he sucks it up and pays some taxes.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 05:05 PM
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36. Easy for Bloomberg to say..who has more money than he could spend in his entire lifetime....
He blew $100,000,000 on his latest Mayoral campaign.
He is the mayor of the city in which I live, and I detest the man.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 06:38 PM
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37. Memo to Bloomberg...voters are not listening to the uber wealthy now.
You've all made sure of it.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:18 PM
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38. This asshole is a billionaire, right? Really easy for him to say that.
My advice to him is to go fuck yourself.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:37 PM
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39. The same guy whose giving NYC an unqualified Ed deformer
he's one to talk about any type of policy.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:38 PM
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40. This pisses me off.....The rich telling the poor to suck it up!!!
phuck him!!!
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:50 PM
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41. hey bloomberg, maybe you should just 'suck it...'
....could it be the American people are sick and tired of throwing away their economic future on worthless scum like you?

'leadership is about doing the possible, not sitting around and waiting for the perfect,'

....no, leadership is daring you and your slimy puke buddies to vote against tax-breaks for the middle class....leadership is taking to airwaves, rallying the American people in demanding that you and your filthy puke buddies abandon your outrageous position that billionaires need tax relief and that we need a landed-gentry in this country....

....and maybe, just maybe, leadership is calling-out and fucking-in-every-way-possible the wealthy elite, who seem to know no bounds....
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:34 AM
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42. Where the hell is Chris Mathews when you need him - Keith, Rachel you still with us...?
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:42 AM
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43. How about just once the Republicans suck it up
Just suck guys. Pay your share of the taxes. Let the Bush tax giveaways expire.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:45 AM
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44. That's all we ever do is suck it up
Next they'll be telling us to swallow it, too.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 02:47 AM
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45. Why is it that the poor and middle class
are they only ones who are ordered to "suck it up?" How 'bout some of you rich somabitches let loose of a few billion or so to help your fellow man.
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NikRik Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:07 AM
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47. Should we not take turns ?
Homestly Iam kidding the working poor and middle clas should never have to suck it up when it comes to fairness in taxes.For the wealthiest Americians would this really be sucking it up.More like time to be fair and stop expecting to get a better deal, the blue bloods and those who think they are the entilitled ones! Why should they not after years of getting tax breaks not now pay their fair share when the country that made it possible for them to succeed needs their help.These stingy most un-Americian amoung us do not care one bit about whats best for the country or their fellow Americian stuggling to have a decent life. We need to boycott all companies that moved their labor force to other countriues so they can take advantage of those poor people. As Amricians we should stop buying products that are not produced here.Yes its time for a little isolating to do whats best for our country.Other countries that are unwilling to have a fair trade agreement with us stop importing thier goods.It wond hurt us since they already buy very little of Americian made products. Other countries insist on this for the wealfare of their working class and really would this not help the rich Americians also. The ones who do bisness here and are loyal to their employees! We do have some companies that still are trying to keep the made in Americia stamp on thier product. Our products are better made and desired around the world, problem is the ones who have accepted a lower quality product being made by forein workers ! BUY made in America ONLY! Americians should not have to work for 10 per hour part time jobs with no benifits ,we are suppose to show the rest of the worlld that a happy employee is a productive and loyal one! If we are all working and making a living wage,would we not feel much better about our country and ourselves ? I know it would make all the differance in the world,well at least where it counts for us in the USA! We need to take care of our own then we can move on to helping those in other countries ,as of now we are doing it backwards !
IMHO.NikRik
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 10:23 AM
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48. And Bloomberg....
can fuck off.

I am so sick of this 'waiting for the perfect' crap.
Progressives, liberals, and the left are not expecting perfect, but we are expecting that
our values will be reflected in any final deal.
Compromise is fine if both sides are actually compromising.
What is going on is Obama has abandoned the middle of the electorate for the center-right and started compromising from there.
So all we are getting is republican plan from top to bottom.
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