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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:00 PM Original message |
Uproar Over ‘Mass Firings’ At Minn. Chipotle Restaurants |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. and how many other employees would lose their jobs if the feds came in |
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Luciferous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:10 PM Original message |
Yep, People on DU are always saying that they need to go after the |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. Because the law is punishing just the little guy |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. the little guy who is in this country illegally? |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. The poor of the poor? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. No, the law actually helps the little guy who is a legal resident. n/t |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Really? |
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redirish28 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The problem with that argument is that somehow LEGAL immigrants are the ones who end up getting |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. employers are screwed either way... |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. Do you have a link for those stats...? |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. " it's against the law to knowing hire or employee someone who is in this country illegally" |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. you're comparing hiring an illegal to traffic violations? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. Laws and laws are apples and apples. |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #43 |
63. No. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. "Humanity" = cheap burritos for you (and labor standards be damned!)? |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. I love to shop at 99 cents stores, ha, no illegal labor involved n/t |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. And if you get caught speeding or whatever, you will be cited. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. but you are not going to be label as criminal n/t |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. You will be labeled as a criminal if you continue to break those laws. |
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Luciferous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. If they were here illegally then the company did the right thing by following the law. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. Look |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. is it against the law to murder people in other countries? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. I don't understand your argument. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
56. are you implying that a criminal should enforce the law, I don't get it. n/t |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. Snip: employees most of them been working there for years |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. They are not President Obama's immigration policies |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. deportations up under obama |
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pitchforksandtorches (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Saves the company from paying Christmas/year end bonuses, nt |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
64. You really think a restaurant is paying bonuses to the kitchen staff? NT |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. Employers should be *heavily* fined for hiring illegal immigrants, |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. You need to differentiate between knowing and unknowing |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. When we all those unemployed WHITE Americans line up for those minimum wage jobs.... |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. They'll probably line up Monday morning |
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FamousBlueRaincoat (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I sort of think that from working in one |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Illegal labor is bad for American labor... |
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FamousBlueRaincoat (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. i realize most of these things, but |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Illegal immigration is good for the economy overall... |
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FamousBlueRaincoat (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. re |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Re |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. I don't know they could do the jobs. |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Probably when the wages rise... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Yeah. Never seen a white guy in a kitchen. Or a dish room. Or as a short order cook. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. What planet are you from? There was a line snaking around the building when a new McDonalds |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. In the area where I live it is impossible to find even a minimum wage job. |
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antigone382 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Please stop referring to human beings as aliens. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. That term is not offensive. The term is used by the government itself. |
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oldhippie (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. Geeeeezzzzz, get a fuckin' dictionary. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. There are a lot aliens that are legal n/t |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. Whenever a fast food restaurant or grocery store opens up, people line up |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. I was lucky to find a job about 6 mos. ago and I filled out quite a few forms - |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. All of us don't have to prove it. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Then you're not an employee. Employees must fill out I-9s. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
24. I've eaten at Chipotle. They need more immigrants, not less. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. It's not Mexican food. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yup. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. Slavery, in one for or another, in this country has never ended. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Cliff's note version of your post: the South won the Civil War. nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. er, no. the corporations did. nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. The Civil War was fought over a sort of neo-feudal economic model. That model prevailed, ultimately |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. It prevailed due to the laissez-faire attitude our nation took against corporations. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Your gymnastics are really quite bemusing at times. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
45. Minnesotans eat spicy food? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Yeah, that was kind of how I reacted as well |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
61. I’ll give the Chipotle owners |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
62. we are talking about millions of illegal workers |
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