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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:03 PM
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Gunman opens fire in Fla. school board meeting
Source: msnbc

PANAMA CITY, Fla. — A gunman has opened fire during a Florida Panhandle school board meeting. Police say one person has been shot, but they won't say if it was the gunman or someone else.


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Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40664031/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:07 PM
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1. Link says he was firing blanks after painting a red V on the wall.
Suicide by cop, or an attempt to make a point gone horribly wrong, or what?
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:10 PM
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2. V for vendetta?
:shrug:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:28 PM
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10. That was my guess. nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:28 PM
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11. V for viagra. nt
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:00 PM
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27. Visitors? Maybe the school board is made up of lizards?
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wikileaksfan Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:12 PM
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3. Schools and guns go together like......
Drinking and driving
Religion and violence
Sex and drugs
Tea parties and spelling
Open flames and gasoline

You get the idea
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:13 PM
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4. I see that list
And I'm not so sure that "sex and drugs" would always belong on there.



:P
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:27 PM
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6. Yeah, there is viagra after all.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:28 PM
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9. The guy did spray paint a V in a circle after all...
I wonder if it was blue paint?
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wikileaksfan Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:39 PM
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13. Maybe not always, but a lot of trouble does come from that combo
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:07 PM
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19. If it is against someone's will, yes
If by trickery drugs are criminally induced, it is very wrong.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:50 PM
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16. Liberals and Republicans/DINOs. nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:24 PM
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5. Man takes hostages, shoots at Bay County School Board meeting
Panama City - A man used a pistol to take hostages at Tuesday's Bay County School Board meeting.
Posted: 2:31 PM Dec 14, 2010
Reporter: David E. Demarest

... Starting a little after 2 p.m., the man addressed the school board briefly, before using a can of red spray paint to paint a large "V" with a circle around it on the wall of the building. The man pulled out a gun, and released the women and children from the room, taking the others hostage. Tensions built while the man questioned the school board. The suspect then began firing, and SWAT teams responded and burst in.

At this time, it's believed the man fired blanks at school board members, and was then been shot by authorities, or may have shot himself, though that is unclear at this time ...

http://www.wjhg.com/news/headlines/Man_takes_hostages_shoots_at_Bay_County_School_Board_meeting_111871839.html?ref=839
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:27 PM
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7. I wonder what the "V" in the circle signifies? nt
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:53 AM
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38. I have seen that meaning "vegetarian" lately... N/T
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:28 PM
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8. The gunshine state strikes again.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 09:40 AM
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42. Piss off with the stupid Florida denigration!!!
Lame-ass comment. I'm sure there are no crazy people, birthers, neo-cons,or outright assholes where you live. I never met anything like that in Hawaii, California, Colorido, Texas, Connecticut, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida. Oh, wait. Yes I did.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:36 PM
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12. I've heard one radio report that it MAY have been a starter pistol.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:47 PM
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14. Well it definitely ENDED something, is there an ender gun?
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:50 PM
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17. So how does a 'rim shot' sound in text?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:48 PM
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15. Guns don't kill people. Low T kills people. He probably didn't have enough T. nt
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 04:49 PM by valerief
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:52 PM
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18. LOL
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:54 PM
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30. Not that funny.
Hypogonadism is serious to those afflicted.
:-(
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:08 PM
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20. Gunman opens fire during Fla. school board meeting
Source: Associated Press

Last Updated: December 14. 2010 4:22PM .
Gunman opens fire during Fla. school board meeting
Associated Press

Panama City, Fla.— A gunman opened fire during a Florida Panhandle school board meeting Tuesday, police said.

Panama City police Sgt. Jeff Becker said one person was shot, but he would not say if it was the gunman or someone else.

WMBB television reporter Nadeen Yanes told her station that the man came up to the podium at the Bay District School Board meeting and said he had a motion. He then pulled out a can of red spray paint and painted a V with a circle around it.

Yanes told the station he pulled out a handgun and started talking. She said school board member Ginger Littleton hit the gunman with her purse and he pushed her to the ground and started firing randomly.

Read more: http://www.detnews.com/article/20101214/NATION/12140428/1020/nation/Gunman-opens-fire-during-Fla.-school-board-meeting
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:08 PM
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21. Desperation makes folks do desperate things
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 04:51 PM by HillbillyBob
fools voting for rpigs who are going to strip us of every right and every penny will soon be facing angry crowds of poor, hungry desperate people......
I don't know what this guys situation is, but I am seeing a lot more reports of violence in small towns that have not had a robbery in years let alone multiple murder/suicides.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:08 PM
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22. Gunman Disrupts School Board Meeting
Gunman Disrupts School Board Meeting
12/14/10 - 02:20 PM


The Bay District School Board meeting was disrupted by a man with a gun while it was in progress.

According to News 13’s Nadeen Yanes, who was covering the meeting, the man came up to the podium and said that he had a motion to make to in meeting, The man then pulled out a can of red spray paint and painted a “V” with a circle around it.

He then pulled out a handgun and started talking about miscellaneous stuff. According to News 13’s reporter, School Board member Ginger Littleton struck the gunman with her purse and he pushed her to the ground and started firing randomly in the building. Yanes said that at least 10 shots were fired.

Yanes and other persons in attendance at the meeting ran outside as police entered the building.

http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/gunman_disrupts_school_board_meeting/mbb7727220/

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:08 PM
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23. According to a few witnesses, the man only had a cap gun:
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 04:55 PM by SteppingRazor
http://www.newsherald.com/news/nelson-89321-panama-report.html


Reporter Daniel Carson was in the room and here is his account, given after making a statement to police:

"They had just got into the action item portion of the agenda, having a discussion about a revision to school board policy. This guy had been sitting in the back of room, not acting irratically or anything. He got up and walked to podium, but I couldnt see that he had a gun.

"He pulls out a can of red spray paint, muttered something like 'you're a bunch of assholes' to school board ... and draws on the wall a red circle with 'v' through it. He pulls out this gun that turned out to be a cap gun, I think, and he started talking to the school board and told everyone to clear the room except the men on the school board.

"Then Ginger Littleton, I think, swung her purse at him. Nobody knew it was a cap gun. I couldnt tell if he hit her or not, but looked like she kind of went down. She's not injured by the way."
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:16 PM
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24. There was mention of the guy's wife being fired
It will be interesting to get the back story. But it sounds like the shooter might be dead. And he had a cap gun?
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:30 PM
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25. It'll be interesting to see the swing from 'OMG gunz bad' to..
OMG, cops bad (for shooting him).

I predict a bunch of cases of moral whiplash in the immediate future.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:45 PM
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26. Yes they should have been better trained to spot a replica gun
that looks exactly like a real gun in the hands of a person using it to take hostages. No doubt will be a police problem in the minds of some.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:22 AM
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34. ...or the reporter should be able to spot a real gun, and not assume it was fake.
You know the "AK-47" joke about reporters? Yeah, that one.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:20 AM
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33. According to a reporter. Who was wrong.
He killed himself with the gun, which is kind of hard to do with a cap gun.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:52 AM
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37. I have no clue what cap gun is, but since he has killed himself
according to the police, I can only presume his gun was real.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:13 PM
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28. Guy had a cap or blank gun.
Looks like he was trying to scare the school board people because he was upset over his wife's firing by the board.

They shot and killed him for it.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:19 AM
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32. Nope. Real gun, real bullets, lousy shot.
Life isn't like Hollywood, it's quite possible to miss somebody at 8-10 feet away.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:47 AM
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36. Maybe you should have started with the reading the title
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 12:51 AM by LisaL
of the OP article. The title says he had killed himself.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 10:59 AM
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43. It's entirely possible to kill yourself with blanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum

CNN article now says that the Superintendent thinks there were blanks mixed with live rounds, but the police say it was all live rounds. There were bullet holes behind the Superintendent's desk.

It seems now the guy was a bad shot.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:23 PM
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29. Here's the shooter's Facebook:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 09:14 AM
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41. He used the symbol from V is for Vendetta in his Face Book.
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 09:15 AM by No Elephants
(For those who do not click or go to movies.)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:08 AM
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31. I saw footage of it on CNN
Watching this was like watching a movie. Man that woman took a chance trying to knock that gun out of the gunman's hand.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:55 AM
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39. I couldn't believe that woman tried to hit him with her purse.
Boggles the mind.
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CRF450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:48 AM
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40. Had she have a gun in her hand, she could've popped one right in his head
And call it a day.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:01 AM
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44. That's exactly what I was thinking.
If that woman had had a concealed pistol in her purse, she could have ended it all right there. Instead she was left to do battle with a purse against a pistol. Brave woman.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 12:28 AM
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35. ...
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:01 AM
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45. Why does the video stop?
Why does the video go still during the shooting part?
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:04 AM
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46. More video here
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