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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 12:13 AM Original message |
San Jose bans plastic bags |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. great! Now when will styrofoam be banned? |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. When it is replaced with this: |
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LoveIsNow (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
2. "Increased the burden and cost"? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. it will increase the cost... |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. Glad they havent done that here yet |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. For that use .. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 06:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Woops! |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Well, you are right, there, but ... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. you could use biodegradable or compostable bags |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. "The Majestic Plastic Bag" (A Mockumentary) . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
7. Whole Foods substituted some really yucky brown containers .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. Can't imagine there being any real problems with this -- |
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bluevoter4life (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
9. I thought San Francsico did this a few years ago.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. We did. San Jose is a bigger city because they cheat |
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bluevoter4life (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Ah. Gotcha. Thanks for the info. eom |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. What do you mean, we count the 'burbs? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I was trying to be nice, as someone with dual citizenship should. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I don't even have dual citizenship |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
12. For years now grocery stores in Belgium and France have not provided plastic |
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14thColony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 03:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The United Kingdom as well |
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scribble (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. Liberals get a bad name ... |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 06:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. True liberals don't. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Ahhh the "you're not a real liberal" canard |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
37. So does the "Liberals get a bad name doing xyz" bollocks ... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. So in other words, you're perfect |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:20 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. No, just not a lazy fucker. (n/t) |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Agreed |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Maybe some of you should get busy sifting the plastic out at Ocean Beach |
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Devil_Fish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Or better yet take a barge out to the pacific garbage patch that is twice the size of TX and pick |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Then don't choose plastic bags. I don't |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Butchers used to wrap meat in butcher paper. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Must have been a tough old life prior to the advent of plastic bags... |
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Devil_Fish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Two words: Canvas Bags. NT |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Be embarrassed but please bring your own plastic bags if you come here. |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. I'm not a fan of many things like this, but this seems rather harmless and will actually help |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
16. The grocery store I shop at |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. That's a really good idea. Is it a chain? n/t |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I think it's a chain on the West Coast. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I think there's SaveMart here. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
18. Surely there is a commerce clause argument in here somewhere |
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Blandocyte (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
19. Now only criminals will have plastic bags |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
24. What is the penalty for non compliance? |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. The way they did it in Europe (many years ago, by the way) is that |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. Why did I know Constant would be the sole objector? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. I imagine that an appropriate and effective view towards environmentalist |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. The one thing that was pointed out to me is that charging people |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. keeping Earth healthier than we have been for the past two hundred years will cost |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I don't see why they are viewed as a inconvenience (other than initial cost) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. People don't like change most of the time unless it's our idea |
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