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Elmore Furth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 02:30 PM
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Spending Bill Freezes Pay for Federal Workers
Source: Associated Press

Federal workers would face a two-year pay freeze under a spending bill Congress will take up this week to keep the government operating through March 4.

The bill would protect student Pell grants, veteran's benefits and a program that helps low-income families pay their heating bills. A small business loan program would be extended.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has scheduled a procedural vote on the bill for Tuesday morning. Passing the bill — known as a "continuing resolution" — would prevent the government from running out of money for daily operations Tuesday night and forcing a shutdown of most federal agencies.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/12/20/us/politics/AP-US-Congress-Spending.html?_r=1&ref=news
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 02:56 PM
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1. Has the pay for the Senate and House been frozen?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:14 PM
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9. Surly, you jest.
they are above the freeze. Only the peons get the grief.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:00 PM
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2. Does this apply to congressional staff members
or executive branch employees at the White House?

And perhaps most importantly does it apply to members of Congress themselves?

I don't think they can call it a "Federal pay freeze" unless it does.

And I'd bet anything that Congress votes themselves another pay raise before the end of 2011.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:03 PM
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:15 PM
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4. why don't we start with you
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:17 PM
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5. That's your source? A youtube video?
Were you dropped on the head as a child?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:23 PM
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7. nope, that would cost us more than it would save
because she was granted the right to stay by our courts.

kicking her out would allow her to sue our pants off and she'd win.

"Waiver of deportation granted

Zeituni Onyango was granted a waiver of deportation on May 17, 2010 by the United States and is currently a legal resident.<51> Immigration Judge Leonard I. Shapiro granted Zeituni Onyango her lawyers Margaret Wong and Scott Bratton and her two doctors an extended hearing which lasted five hours. At the end Shapiro granted her legal residency and permission to work in the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeituni_Onyango#Waiver_of_deportation_granted


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the above information was extremely easy to find, since it was on a short wikipedia page about Obama's "aunt". thus, either you are so misinformed or such an unreliable source that you do not know the basics of an issue you are pushing --or you actually are informed and are lying to us.

so which is it?

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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:24 PM
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8. Goodbye Troll!
It wasn't nice knowing you!
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:22 PM
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6. This has absolutely nothing to do with deficits
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 03:35 PM by NeoConsSuck
The capitalists can't continue to play the 'Race to the Bottom' game in private industry while state and federal worker's standard of living remains the same. In order to keep lowering private industry worker's standard of living, they need to bring down state and federal workers also.

Fat boy Christie last night showed the republican's strategy when he said no one should have pensions, everyone should have 401k plans. In other words, every American's retirement should be at the mercy of wall street gyrations and crooks.

It's really time to face the facts: Voting and protests don't work against the capitalists and their enablers (republicans and democrats). No matter who you vote in, you will be getting the short end of the stick.
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Mafia Killer Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:21 PM
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10. exactly !
those on SS did not get a COLA last year, the year before....and this coming year.
where I live....state employees are getting raises....some as much as 15%
those of us living on SS are told...we don't get a raise unless inflation raises at a rate to cause financial strain.
man.
don't know about you folks, but the prices on things us poor people need the most...housing, food, fuel....ect
have doubled in the last 3 years.

once again...we're left selling what few posessions we have left...just to eat.
thank you GOP
thank you GWB
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:32 PM
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11. I can't feel sorry for them.

Federal Employees have the best benefits, next to corporate Vice Presidents. I know, I lived in DC for 23 years. Folks in the private sector would take %20 paycuts just to get those benefits, especially if they have a family or a family member with an illness.

...and getting fired or laid off is NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE.

It's short sighted to equate a Fed pay freeze with a private sector pay freeze. There's more to the total compensation than the numbers on the check.

Trust me, they will survive easier than the rest of us!
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 04:49 PM
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12. You're wrong
Many major corporations provide better benefits than the federal government. Starting in 1983, the federal benefits for retirement has been a small pension, 1% for every year worked, along with a 401k like account and social security. The health-care is a market of plans to choose from, most of which do not offer great dental care. Most corporate plans offer better coverage for dental and vision with similar co-pays.


Stop smoking the Cato Crack Pipe!
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