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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 05:31 AM
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Reuters Flash: N.Korea's Armed Forces Minister Says Ready for "Holy War" Using Nuclear Deterrent
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 05:33 AM by Hissyspit
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 05:44 AM
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1. A 'Holy War' ? WTF? Never have gotten that crap term
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 05:52 AM by SpiralHawk
Shouldn't all these vast, ugly organized tragedies -- including the ongoing Crusade for Middle East Oil -- be called 'Unholy Wars'?

I mean, let's and write and speak plainly about these matters. I'm going to attack now, and fire off a sternly worded email to North Korea's Armed Forces Minister. He's got it coming.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 05:47 AM
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2. BBC coverage of SK's drills
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:14 AM
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12. if war comes, it will be brief, but very very ugly, the aftermath will be even uglier nt.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 01:45 PM
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15. Agreed.
Which makes their desire to risk it so horrible.
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tootrueleft Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 05:56 AM
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3. I guess the Norths concession is being dissed. Not good.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 06:37 AM
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4. Aren't Communist states supposed to be atheistic?
I mean, for all the saber-rattling, I don't ever remember the USSR promising anything like that.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:46 AM
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10. Yes, but they're also known for re-defining and mangling terms.

And if you take out the spiritual dimension, the proletarian revolution could certainly be called the "holy war" of communism.

It's a term meant to push all those religious sentiment buttons.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:13 AM
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11. Their deities are Kim Il Sung and his descendants.
I don't think that's an exaggeration at all.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:21 AM
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13. The are bending with the rhetoric of the times.
NK's PR guys are working overtime to stay ahead of the BS curve.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 06:51 AM
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5. Well they do have difficulty with our word sounds
maybe they meant lowly whore ? :shrug:
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BenzoDia Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 07:32 AM
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6. Guess N, Korea determined it is time to modernize their threat-speak.
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 07:35 AM by BenzoDia
Cold War era style terms like "puppet government" and "imperialist lackeys" just don't drive the point home like they used to.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:00 AM
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7. Guardian: North Korea ready for 'holy war' with South Korea
North Korea says it is ready to launch a "sacred war", accusing South Korea of exacerbating tensions on the peninsula.

The North's state media reported that the defence minister, Kim Yong-chun, made the remarks during a national meeting in Pyongyang today.

The Korean Central News Agency quoted Kim as saying that North Korea was "fully prepared to launch a sacred war" because South Korea was deliberately pushing the peninsula to the brink of a war.

North Korea's anger has been piqued this week by South Korea's military drills near a frontline island that Pyongyang attacked last month. Earlier in the week, however, North Korea said it would not respond to the provocation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/23/north-korea-holy-war-warning
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:18 AM
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8. So when the US gets involved (because we're only in 6 wars now and need more
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 08:18 AM by valerief
reasons to beef up our outrageous military budget), will we defend North Korea or South Korea? It's so confusing to me.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 01:51 PM
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16. We are already involved. We have 28K troops there (unless they left after the drills)
They were there drilling with SK.
Gov Richardson was trying to diffuse things with his visit to NK this past week. But we have treaties to come to SK's defense.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:25 PM
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18. Thanks. I think our social security s/b eliminated so that these wars can
be paid for. Gee, I sound like a lot of our senators. I didn't want my social security anyway. I wanted to become homeless. Pretty soon, I'm sure Fox will romanticize the life of the hobo, if they haven't already.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:25 AM
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9. He said, "Holy war," in English? Or this is someone's translation?
I don't always trust translations. I remember bush I proclaiming that noriega declared war on the US.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:35 AM
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14. Consider the source: Reuters
Isn't Reuters owned by Sun Myung Moon of the Unification Church?
Don't they have a huge stake in South Korea and in opposing communism?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 01:52 PM
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17. CNN has it as well
Wolf B was travelling in NK with Gov Richardson this past week. They have the story too.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:31 PM
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19. no, that's UPI
Reuters is somewhat different

more info here

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSGE6BD07N20101213
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:23 PM
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20. NK has already backed down.
The said they would go to war over SK's drills. SK's drills were on SK territory. Instead of going to war, NK has announced that it will hold drills on NK territory. As long as NK stays on their side of the DMZ, nothing will happen. SK will be on alert and will watch, and learn what they can of the NK military, but will do nothing.

Each side will feel like they have proved their point, and things will go back to normal.

What will happen inside NK's politics is anybody's guess.
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