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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 03:33 PM
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VoIP decision means Skype now illegal
Source: Shanghai Daily

THE Chinese regulator has declared Internet phone services other than those provided by China Telecom and China Unicom as illegal, which is expected to make services like Skype unavailable in the country.

Read more: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=460268&type=Business
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 03:37 PM
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1. ugggh....
:spank: But you did get me to read it...
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 03:44 PM
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2. VoIP can make it difficult to eavesdrop.
But with the government camped out at the point where analog voice and TDM convert to IP (China Telecom & China Unicom sites), it's easier to achieve. Oligopoly perpetuation probably the primary motivation, but not the only one.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 04:14 PM
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5. Most VoIP is unencrypted. To me, the main reason is money. -nt
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 04:21 PM
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7. I said money was the primary motivation. Encryption has nothing to do with my point.
Think about extraction.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 07:32 PM
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15. Skype is fully encrypted- point to point.
at least they were last time i checked.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 07:50 PM
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16. (Does some quick research) Zounds, you're right.
I'm more used to the innards of SIP, IAX, H.323, RTP etc.

All right, that probably looked like letter soup for you. Or not?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 11:53 PM
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20. Yes they use AES
It seems kind of like a necessity given the peer-to-peer nature of their system.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 03:50 PM
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3. No matter what the name, Chicoms are still Chicoms
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 04:15 PM
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6. What a cute nickname.
:eyes:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 05:01 PM
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10. "Nokos" is another goody.
"Noko nukes", rolls right off the tongue.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 06:51 PM
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14. Indeed, equally cute.
:eyes:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 05:02 PM
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12. Its old school...as am I
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 06:45 PM
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13. I could list many things, people, and ideas that are "old school".
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 06:49 PM by Commie Pinko Dirtbag
But I won't.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 08:21 PM
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17. Ted Kennedy was old school...
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 11:39 PM
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18. Not who I was thinking about.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 12:15 AM
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22. Yours is kinda cute, too. ;) n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 04:13 PM
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4. And getting a cell phone you can use in China is outrageously expensive
I had one for two weeks and used it no more than 15 minutes a day, the cost was over $600 for the two weeks.

My boss went through the roof.

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 04:39 PM
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8. In China. nt
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 04:52 PM
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9. AT&T...
will get the same thing pushed here- just give them time.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 05:02 PM
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11. Back in the late 1990s, they wanted it to pay part of the access fee
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 05:02 PM by karynnj
that all landlines making interstate calls did - has that happened yet?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 11:47 PM
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19. So, what about google voice? gTalk? Yahoo chat?
There's a whole lot of products that carry voice over the internet besides Skype....
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 12:13 AM
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21. Ironically, Skype is the hardest to block.
There's no easy way to identify all the many ways a Skype peer connects to the P2P network. It's a nightmare for network admins who are told to block it.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 12:30 AM
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23. Skype is also 'banned' in the UAE... most people I know use it!
It is virtually impossible to stop.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 12:48 AM
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24. what is the penalty if caught?
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 09:07 AM
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25. Jail Time
http://usa2uae.com/index.php/?s=voip

Although this was people selling it for a profit...

Note, they are also protecting government telephone monopolies...
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 09:17 AM
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26. Yikes! I heard they also banned Blackberries
Possibly because both are encrypted...
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