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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:51 PM Original message |
Julian Assange extradition hearing: woman's text messages 'showed she wanted revenge' |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Or her phone was hacked. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. And then the hacker went into her twitter account and erased |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Weren't Ms W and Ms A supposed to testify? nt |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Wondering the same. Did they even show up? Call Interpol! nt nt |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Why would they? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I read something to that effect some days ago. I have no idea why they would. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. LOL! Not much of a conspiracy if those tweets were out there in public |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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kjfaier (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. wikileaks |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. You have that exactly backwards. |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Yeah right... |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Well, so far they made a heck of a job |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Heck of a job? |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Heck of a smear job, yes n/t |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Hardly. It's simply the only reasonable avenue by which to get him here. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Ummm.... it's not a 'conspiracy' theory, it's a well-supported theory. |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. LOL! Theory? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. When in doubt, make stuff up? |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Do you have any actual points? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. I've made the points. You will believe what you want to despite some of the facts. |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Nein habla Svenska...? |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. How can someone be raped when they are asleep??? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Um . . . |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Um....Happens quite a bit.... nt |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Right! Anyone who doesn't want to be raped shouldn't go to sleep! Simple, isn't it? n/t |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. It does happen. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. yes, but she then let him stay at her apt for another week. highly unlikely.... |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. *facepalm* Rape is non-consensual, often forced sex. Can't give consent if you're asleep. nt |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. You can give pre-consent. Years ago I had a lover who liked to wake up to sex. |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. shouldn't you be asking "how can someone give consent if asleep?" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Depends on how you define rape. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 05:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
41. no one gets to define rape however they choose |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Yes. The word "rape" can have a subjective meaning. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 04:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
40. I WAS |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. I have wondered the same thing. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
68. Do we even have to answer this? As someone who was molested as a child, |
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Volaris (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
82. self-delete.. |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. she was happy b4 she was scorned |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. That was according to Assange's lawyer. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. And witnesses. One testified yesterday that she offered to be |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 05:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
42. happens all the time |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. You didn't read my post. That's what I said. n/t |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. exactly. |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. "It has not been determined what the facts are yet." |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Yep. It sounds like she got mad when he went with someone else. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. That plus |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. recommend |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
20. If there is a police investigation, the police may have been able to |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. WikiLeaks: 'Text Messages Could Clear Assange' |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It is not for the UK court to decide guilt. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. There is the issue of probable cause but also the issue of |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
69. Any thoughts on the B of A attack on Wikileaks? |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Dont see.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
27. Julian Assange's accusers sent texts discussing revenge, court hears |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Well he shouldn't have any problems... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. You seem to be unclear on the concept. |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I think it would be... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yes, as I said, unclear on the concept. |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-08-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Whatever. |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. St Assange? Oh yes - the name calling continues. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. wining over leaks? I dont think so. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 05:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
43. revenge for what? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Well, it's part of the rape apologia.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. LOL. They discredited themselves, no one has to do it for them. n/t |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I've not seen a scintilla of actual evidence that discredits these women.... |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. lol |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
84. Oh please. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Oh hush you |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. revenge for a broken condom |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Wanting revenge is not weird. Acting out that wish is weird |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. Does Sweden castrate rapists? I'll bet not. He should demand |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. yes, due process is a bitch sometimes |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
83. Revenge for not treating them the way they wanted to be treated would be the motivation |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
45. Trumped up distraction working with some |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
76. Everything isn't centered around the US ya know, and in some ways its insulting |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. There are a lot of Democrats who, unlike Republicans, know something about US history. |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Does the US history tell ya a lot about Sweden tho? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
74. k/r |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
78. I find it very interesting that the biggest detractor of Assange in this discussion |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Things that make you want to go 'hmmmmm' nt |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
81. I know that Assange has not been accused, and this is not a trial, |
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