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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:49 PM
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Cheney undecided on heart transplant operation
Source: AP

Last Updated: May 08. 2011 1:07PM
Cheney undecided on heart transplant operation
Associated Press


Washington— Former Vice President Dick Cheney says he hasn't decided whether to seek a heart transplant.

Cheney tells "Fox News Sunday" that his health has improved since last year, when he was diagnosed with end-stage heart failure. He had an operation last summer to fit his body with a battery-powered device that helps his heart pump blood.

In his Fox appearance, Cheney spoke with a raspy voice and appeared less gaunt than he had in the months following the operation.

Cheney says he's working on a book and planning a fishing trip later in May.

Read more: http://detnews.com/article/20110508/POLITICS03/105080319/Cheney-undecided-on-heart-transplant-operation#ixzz1LmfpnV7R



Low hanging fruit?
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:52 PM
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1. Can his doctors find one cold enough?
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:04 PM
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46. And one that is also "three sizes too small"
:hi:
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:55 PM
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2. Why would he be given priority for a heart transplant
at his age?

Younger people with better chances for a strong recovery should be considered first.

I will be pissed if he gets a heart transplant.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 01:25 PM
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56. OK, I'll decide for him. "No" or even "HELL NO!"
Works for me.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:32 PM
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62. +1,000,000 people more deserving and more viable. on the other hand,
With some one Else's heart, perhaps he would confess to his crimes.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:56 PM
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3. Go to the bottom of the Arabia Sea and get Usama's heart
It should be a close match.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:03 PM
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7. Exactly. Wouldn't that have been something if Obama had presented it to him all preserved.
Edited on Sun May-08-11 01:04 PM by Hoyt
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:03 PM
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8. Hah! nt
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iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:07 PM
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9. That is despicable
comparing Cheney to Osama
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:12 PM
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10. Yep. Cheney's death-toll is much much higher.
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xocet Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:51 PM
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17. Indeed, by 2 orders of magnitude at least...
2 orders of magnitude:
Documented civilian deaths from violence: 100,708 – 110,005
Full analysis of the WikiLeaks' Iraq War Logs may add 15,000 civilian deaths.

(www.iraqbodycount.org)


3 orders of magnitude:

January 2008 - Update on Iraqi Casualty Data

Further survey work undertaken by ORB, in association with its research partner IIACSS, confirms our earlier estimate that over 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens have died as a result of the conflict which started in 2003.

Following responses to ORB’s earlier work, which was based on survey work undertaken in primarily urban locations, we have conducted almost 600 additional interviews in rural communities. By and large the results are in line with the ‘urban results’ and we now estimate that the death toll between March 2003 and August 2007 is likely to have been of the order of 1,033,000. If one takes into account the margin of error associated with survey data of this nature then the estimated range is between 946,000 and 1,120,000.

(www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=120)


Please note the following regarding the second study mentioned above: Conflict Deaths in Iraq: A Methodological Critique of the ORB Survey Estimate (http://w4.ub.uni-konstanz.de/srm/article/viewArticle/2373 .)

So, yes, bin Laden was a rank amateur at killing when compared to Bush, Cheney et al.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:22 PM
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23. You're right, Cheney killed far more people. He also tortured
people, I have not heard of Osama using torture. When it comes to mass killers, I suppose there are degrees. So your point is taken. Personally I hadn't seen much difference until you pointed it out.

I once heard Cheney being asked in an interview if it bothered him that if the US went to war in Iraq, a lot of innocent people would die. He twisted his mouth into that now infamous snarl and simply said 'no'. That was probably the first time I had ever seen him, back during the first Gulf War and he gave me chills that day. Nothing he has done since, has changed my intitial reaction to this heartless killer.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:23 PM
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31. No it's not. Two peas in a pod
only Osama is a religious frickin nut and Cheney is a greedy frickin nut.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:49 PM
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16. It would be prophetic that OBL heart would beat in Cheney's chest...
I don't doubt for a minute that evil hadn't contemplated it.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:56 PM
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4. Boy he would be way down on any transplant list ....
.... look for China or Saudi Arabia to have an execution of a donor very soon.
My guess is that Cheney would die on the operating table or soon there after ...
because it would be very hard to find blood vessels that would be strong enough
to graft onto for his new heart.



hurry up and die dick you have done enough damage.

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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:59 PM
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5. Hey Dick
HOW ABOUT NO??
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:00 PM
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6. When I think of folks who could benefit from a change of heart, Dick Cheney is one
at or near the top of my list. He could well-afford to change his cold, mean-hearted ways.



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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:13 PM
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11. Undecided = Looking for a victim.
There's no way that miserable old prick won't do everything in his power to get a new heart.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 07:17 PM
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42. Maybe his docs have told him his chances of surviving surgery are lousy?
General anaesthesia alone at his age and in his condition is a danger. So is surgery. So is rejection.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:45 PM
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48.  he looked bad in that interview about OBL's demise
It probably didn't help Dick's pallor that Obama was the one to find OBL
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:16 PM
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12. that would be implant wouldn't it
can't replace something that isn't there
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vduhr Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 04:07 PM
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35. ...or that that was never there.
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:32 PM
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13. He needs a heart to fill that empty place in his chest.
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:35 PM
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14. As an (potential) organ doner
this pisses me off.

I think I'll have 'DON'T LET CHENEY HAVE MY HEART' tattooed on my chest.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:17 PM
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29. that was my reaction.
seriously if i thought cheney would get my heart i'd just take it with me to my grave.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:39 PM
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15. Is he going to bill Medicare for it?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:53 PM
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18. There is a very strict
regimen when a heart transplant is performed. When my former husband was accepted there was a family educational conference (for lack of a better term) - brother, sister, the kids and me, we had to attend. Everything was explained to us, w/ an emphasis on the recovery period, medical examinations. doctor visits, medication schedules. It was a little overwhelming It may have been because he was so very ill, that his recovery seemed so consuming.

I don't know. It was my only experience w/ transplant regimen. I know when I see pictures of darth, I recognize the same hollow look I saw on someone I once loved. My former husband died before he received a transplant and he was certainly more deserving of one than that crusty, hateful thoroughly despicable, soul-less man.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:06 PM
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19. I thought people of his age (70 or over) were usually considered not suitable for heart transplants?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:13 PM
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21. Believe me, 70 and over is not considered ancient
nowadays. I am 72, in fairly good health and moderately active and not a candidate for a nursing home, so I doubt that if I needed it I would be turned down for a heart transplant.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:20 PM
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30. According to the John's Hopkins website the allowable age has been raised.
From the website article titled WHO GETS A HEART TRANSPLANT? CRITERIA EXPAND TO COVER OLDER ADULTS AND SOME CANCER PATIENTS:

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2006/09_15a_06.html


"...ISHLT guidelines, which date back to 1992 and were last updated in 1997, restricted access for cancer patients who been tumor free for less than five years or had weakened immune systems from cancer therapy that precluded them from taking anti-rejection drugs for a transplanted organ.

The new recommendations allow some people with slow-growing or treated cancers to qualify, and they raise the qualifying age cap from 65 to 70.

Support for the new criteria, says Russell, comes from research confirming that transplant recipients over age 65 have a 85 percent survival rate one year post-transplant. After 10 years, he says, 50 percent are still alive..."


Much as I loath Unca Dick he may be a candidate for transplant in some programs.



Laura
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:07 PM
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20. On my organ donor card I'm going to write "Void if intended recipient is Dick Cheney"
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:18 PM
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22. I thought people of his age (70 or over) were usually considered not suitable for heart transplants?
Rules like this (or any other rules) don't apply to Cheney.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:46 PM
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49. Hasn't the American taxpayer paid enough for this moron to keep living?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:41 PM
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47. No worries. His donor would have to be reptilian to be a good match. n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:49 PM
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24. Isn't there some more deserving soul out there?
Like a serial killer or a minor dictator?

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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:58 PM
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25. Any human heart
would refuse to function in that creeps body. Wonder why that dirt bad don't return where he belongs....the muddiest part of earth.
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vduhr Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 04:11 PM
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36. Yes, because...
rather than Cheney's body rejecting the heart, the heart would reject Cheney.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:08 PM
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26. Too late. He didn't have a heart when he needed one, so what's the point now? nt
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:11 PM
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27. Well said!
:toast:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:15 PM
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28. Maybe if he has the transplant, he will have a change of heart?
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:24 PM
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32. If I was a betting man I'd encourage him to 'go for it'.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:27 PM
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33. Skip it, Dick. The animal that would provide it has piglets to raise.
Think of the livestock for once.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:57 PM
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34. I'll donate my gall bladder for a replacement for his heart...cmon DU'rs what would you
donate?
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vduhr Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 04:17 PM
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37. I have a callus on the bottom of my foot that I don't need.
A callus for the callous seems appropriate.
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 07:11 PM
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41. I have a couple of hemorrhoids he can have
if he promises to have them implanted in the middle of his face.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 02:38 PM
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57. He can have my uterus
Since the Republicans think what happens to it is any of their business.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 05:27 PM
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38. Somebody of his age and health should never be getting a heart transplant, anyway!
Why waste a good heart on a sickly man in his 70s when there are plenty of younger folks needing a heart?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 07:26 PM
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43. He turned 70 in January. Agree he should be way down on the list anyway, tho'
Edited on Sun May-08-11 07:31 PM by No Elephants
all people who really need heart transplants are sickly. They use some animal hearts now, too, but I hate to think of a poor animal dying.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:15 PM
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39. I see nothing wrong with replacing his heart with a kidney.
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Sportsguy Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:17 PM
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40. He Doesn't Need One
You have to be human first, right?
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Nossida Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 07:31 PM
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44. Must be wonderful
Study: 45,000 Uninsured Die a Year
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/17/eveningnews/main5318652.shtml

It must be wonderful to be a Government/Corporate Oligarch.
Some of us need transplants, but aren't important enough,
like Cheney, to warrant the cost or the bother. But that's
just Capitalism for you. Enjoy it, if you can afford it.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 07:36 PM
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45. How nice that the M'FER HAS a CHOICE
He's "deciding" if he wants the heart transplant? Nice--NOT!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:47 PM
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50. and the money, and the excellent health insurance thanks to the American taxpayer
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:46 PM
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52. I thought the Feds were throwing retirees onto Medicare.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:36 PM
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51. He's been getting by without one for all of these years...
... why does he suddenly need one now?
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:42 PM
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53. The only heart that wouldn't reject is Cthulhu's
And I don't think he'd give it up even for a devoted minion like Cheney.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:50 PM
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54. Why does he want a heart now? He's managed this long
without one!

"If I only had a heart"! :eyes:
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SeattleVet Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:20 AM
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55. Perfect test case!
Dick Cheney could volunteer to be a test case for the Republican's proposed Medicare reform/elimination.

He can very easily end his access to retirement health insurance, and we can write him a check for $15,000 and have him find health insurance in the private sector. He's the ideal candidate. Over age 65, pre-existing conditions and he needs surgery and expensive meds. He has an opportunity to prove that this heartless Repulsican proposal is a good idea!

Come on, Dick - show the world how you think the American health care system should be run! Put your money where your mouth is.
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:56 PM
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58. I guess he needs permission from Emperor Palpitine
:nuke:
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:25 PM
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59. Go be with Bin Laden, Cheney.
Edited on Mon May-09-11 05:25 PM by Arrowhead2k1
You guys have a lot of catching up to do.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:27 PM
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60. I want to see that sob live long enough to make it to The Hague
I know I'm dreaming but old men can dream too
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:29 PM
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61. He's been modified to run on pure evil.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 09:33 PM
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63. The undead have no need for hearts. T'would be a pointless, tragic waste.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 09:55 PM
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64. go for it, dickie....
....you only live once, or maybe in your case, five or six....

....hey Swamp Rat, to put this all in perspective, we need one of your world-famous pics depicting dickenstein and his NEW heart....he's alive! he's alive!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:01 PM
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65. I can kinda understand why he's reticent
They're going to have to fly to Africa, capture a jackal, fly it back to the US, decapitate it (because using drugs to put it down would ruin the heart) and put the heart in Cheney's chest. Not cheap, even for someone with all Cheney's money.
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