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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:28 PM
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U.N. Recommends Iraq Caretaker Government ( * not going to be happy
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Iraq-UN-Envoy.html

UN. Recommends Iraq Caretaker Government
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: April 14, 2004


Filed at 12:55 p.m. ET

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Iraq should dissolve the U.S.-picked Governing Council and set up a caretaker government of respected Iraqis to lead the country from the U.S. handover of power on June 30 until elections set for Jan. 31, U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi said Wednesday.

The caretaker government would be led by a prime minister and include a president and two vice presidents. It must include ``Iraqi men and women known for their honesty, integrity and competence,'' Brahimi said.

.. more at AP

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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:37 PM
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1. What?..No Chalabi?
Ooooh, Unka Dickie aint gonna like this!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:46 PM
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17. Birds of a feather,...corrupt criminal politicians should be executed!
I don't believe in the death penalty but figure that those who advocate it ought to be subjected to it when their actions lead to mass murder.

Doncha' think? :D
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:49 PM
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18. Well, yeah- send em' to the front lines! n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:41 PM
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2. LOL!... buh-bye Chalabi....
<A ``consultative assembly'' should also be created, but not an interim legislature, Brahimi said. The Governing Council would be dissolved when the caretaker government is handed sovereignty by U.S. administrators on June 30.

``I am absolutely confident that most Iraqis want a simple solution for this interim period,'' he said. ``You don't need a legislative body for this short period.''>

......take that you over-stuffed sausage!

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:27 PM
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24. Bushwad was ranting on last night how he was working this out
with Brahimi. LOL indeed.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:41 PM
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3. sorry double post...
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 01:13 PM by leftchick
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:43 PM
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4. sheesh... triple post!
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 01:15 PM by leftchick
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:44 PM
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5. Does this mean no Achmed Chalabi?
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:42 PM
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6. Sounds that way to me
:)
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:59 PM
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7. This will never happen
The whole point is that the Iraqi government is there to sell off (privatize) Iraqi assets to corporate elites.

I keep wondering why there is very little press on the fact that Iraqis are being kept out of everything to do with the reconstruction of their country. And there is no press on contracts and proceeds of Iraqi oil.

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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:10 PM
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8. what's going on with all this Iraqi oil
that Bush was talking about doing so good last night? Where are the proceeds from that going?
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Capt_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:15 PM
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9. The bushies will reject this outright.
The neo-cons need a "legislative body" there so they can put into
"law" the privatization of the whole economy and the establishment
of permanent military bases.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:21 PM
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10. Don't be surprised to see marines besieging the U.N. building soon
This man is obviously a terrorist if he can't see the legitimacy of the current arrangements. He must be smoked out of his lair in the U.N. building. Surely, someone can accuse him of murder.
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:28 PM
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11. This is why the June 30 deadline is so important to the Bushites.
As time passes and the situation in Iraq stagnates or deteriorates, there will be more calls for this sort of thing. It's vitally important that they get their boys installed as the "legitimate govmint" so that any subsequent UN intervention has to deal with the "Existing Iraqi Government".

As soon as the handoff has been made, look for the new "Iraqi" government to hit the UN up for assistance---probably within days.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:42 PM
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14. Good point!
And probably Baker's idea. Once the handoff takes place responsibility for Iraq is no longer Bush's baby.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:51 PM
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19. Yup, and they have our military to protect corporate interests,...
,...imagine that,...while the freon neocons spew "democracy" out of one side of their mouth they are making arrangements for "corporatism" out the other side. Didn't Mussolini say "corporatism" IS "fascism"? Is "corporate" rule any different from any other form of tyranny? I think not,...and worse,...it would be more ruthless since money is the guiding light, not people or humanity.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 04:09 PM
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20. Seems like the UN is making a pre-emptive $trike!
Your move, Bushie...
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:33 PM
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12. "honesty, integrity, and competence . . . "
junior won't like that one bit

goes against everything he stands for
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:39 PM
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13. That sounds like a great idea for the USA too!
It looks like it's pretty much the only way to get "honesty, integrity and competence" which this administration never delivers. Would you guys mind if we replaced W with Bill Moyers, until new democratic elections can be held?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:42 PM
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15. May P-Off the freon neocons, but it would certainly be in the best
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 02:44 PM by Just Me
interests OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE!!!!

I sure wish some US leaders would force a discussion about what this occupation is supposedly about: THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE!!!

Does US killing of innocent women and children serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

Does US corporatization of Iraq serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

Does US DICTATING who serves in Iraq governance serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

Does "guns for hire" serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

Does jobs to anyone other than Iraqis serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

Does treating clerics like they are sub-human serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

Does Halliburton or Bechtel or the Carlyle Group serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

Does the (apparently) intentional exclusion of the rest of the Arab community serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

Does an insistence upon western (capitalistic) democracy serve the best interests of the Iraqi people?

<edited to add more>

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:43 PM
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16. Brilliant plan!
The whole point is that the Iraqi government is there to sell off (privatize) Iraqi assets to corporate elites.

Granted, but last night's fiasco, more than broke the straw that broke the camel's back in Bushworld.

If you reread Kerry's statement here:

Kerry Statement on President's News Conference

To: National Desk

Contact: Stephanie Cutter of John Kerry for President, 202-712-3000

WASHINGTON, April 13 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Senator John Kerry issued the following statement tonight in response to the President's news conference:

"Tonight, the President had the opportunity to tell the American people what steps he was going to take to stabilize the situation in Iraq. Unfortunately, he offered no specific plan whatsoever. Rather, the President made it clear that he intends to stubbornly cling to the same policy that has led to a greater risk to American troops and a steadily higher cost to the American taxpayer.

"We need to set a new course in Iraq. We need to internationalize the effort and put an end to the American occupation. We need to open up the reconstruction of Iraq to other countries. We need a real transfer of political power to the UN.

"The President may refuse to acknowledge a single mistake in the course of his presidency, but with deaths mounting and American sacrifice increasing, it's time he offered a specific plan that secures real international involvement, gets the target off the backs of our troops, and starts to share the burden in Iraq."

http://www.usnewswire.com /


It more than mentions, it points out, that Bush doesn't have a plan for a viable Iraqi government to put in place but does mention the transfer of power to the UN. If the UN puts forth this proposal to Congress coupled with mounting pressure from deceased soldier's families to pull the troops out of Iraq, dollars to donuts, Congress may just have the votes to override the Bush gang.

Yup, it seems like Kerry is ahead of the curve!

As it happens, It's election year for Congress too!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 04:53 PM
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21. addendum to last post...
If Bush thinks jogging with a GI amputee today on a newly constructed running track situated on the South Lawn is going to hold sway with soldier's families.....cluephone: Toooo Little, Toooo Late!!

I daresay, even if you offered the families millions in compensation, you've played us dirty, Mr. Bush. Our feelings will be reflected at the polls very soon.
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termo Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:18 PM
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22. but...
Kerry will have to find some very interesting points to have russia and old europ sending diplomats, troops and help.

As a european, I hope the old europ will just do nothing and leave the opportunity to US to learn from its mistakes.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:22 PM
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23. I am not sure why Europe would be any to eager to help
except for reconstruction projects and oil, and the US will continue to control those.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:27 PM
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25. I'm sure Russia would be thrilled...
Iraq owes Russia beaucoup bucks.

Bush summarily axed the deal Russians made trading Iraqi oil for debt repayment before the War started. I'm not sure if their deal was reinstated or not...haven't kept up!
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