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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:14 PM
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Ostrow: NatGeo's Bush film gets preview
Source: The Denver Post

Ten years later, will Americans want to watch a film reliving 9/11 through the lens of George W. Bush's personal memories?

National Geographic Channel previewed part of its interview with George W. Bush for TV critics gathered in Los Angeles Thursday. The film premieres Sunday, Aug. 28.

"The 9/11 Interview" interweaves news footage from the day, a decade ago, with the extended, two-day interview with Bush. Executive producer and director Peter Schnall said he landed the interview thanks to his previous collaboration with the Administration on a documentary on Air Force One.

The film, which includes no narration, only Bush's voice, may help amend the country's memory of Bush in the elementary school classroom on that day, and on the run in a jet.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18569566
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:25 PM
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1. unrec'd solely because I CANNOT rec anything with the words "Bush film..."
...that doesn't also include the works "died in prison for crimes against humanity." I'm sorry.
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backtomn Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 06:03 PM
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10. Maybe he would have better luck......if,
he waited....say.......100 years. : )
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:31 PM
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2. "may help amend the country's memory of Bush in the elementary school classroom"
Which means it's revisionist BS.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:29 PM
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96. 'The Pet Goat'
Memetic antidote. Plus, as you know, ixion, it's the Truth.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:42 PM
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3. This will be a bush polishing film...The worthless piece of shit
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 04:49 PM by russspeakeasy
should never have his name mentioned again... you can't polish a turd, but they will try.
oh, and by the way, who owns nat geo ?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:53 PM
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4. Don't you mean "Bush-fluffing film"?
Just asking . . .

:hi:
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 10:07 PM
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17. very good, hatrack..wish I would have thought of it...
:toast:
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:54 PM
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5. eeewww
:puke:

Nat Geo is a Rupert Murdoch/News Corp controlled company. I can just imagine this little piece of right wing propaganda.

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Proletariatprincess Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 05:14 PM
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6. That says it all.....
no use wasting precious time watching it.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 05:57 PM
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9. really??
how disappointing....most of their shows seem to be about animals or things like that. i may have to ditch my dish after all. it was the only thing holding me back.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 06:50 PM
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12. yes, sad
I liked Nat Geo too.

What about Hulu, MySpace, HarperCollins Books, Twentieth Century Fox, American Idol, Fox News
Fox Searchlight Pictures, The New York Rangers, The Wall Street Journal & affiliates, New York Post

also: 34% of Hughes Electronics (satellite broadcaster DIRECTV with over 11 million subscribers in the US, 81% equity in satellite operator PanAmSat, and Hughes Network Systems)

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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 06:37 PM
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94. I dumped DTV because they refused to remove FOX News from my package.
I call them and asked to remove fox news from my package. they told me it was part of the standard package. I then told them that I pay to have sewage pumped out of my house, not into it. Please cancle my standard package.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 05:17 PM
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7. Smirky has no hope of a Reagan style whitewash of his record.
He is simply a pathetic, evil clown.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 05:40 PM
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8. Bad Clowns
The fear of clowns is no laughing matter. It's called coulrophobia, and for many, it's way worse than that nagging fear that you'll be buried under a bucket of confetti by some big-top bozo. Just recently, Sean "P. Diddy" Combs denied being a coulrophobe, after reports circulated that he demanded a "no-clown clause" in his performance contracts. Did the rap star ever get pummeled silly with a rubber chicken?

Perhaps the venerable art of clowning is still haunted by the memory of serial killer John Wayne Gacy, who tortured and killed 33 young men and boys. In his spare time, Gacy strapped on oversized shoes and performed as "Pogo the Clown" at birthday parties.

Kind of a John Wayne Gacy kinda clown...?

story at:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/WolfFiles/story?id=91615&page=1

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 06:14 PM
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11. I loved watching Rescue Me last night when Denis Leary's character visualized setting a book
on fire that was in the window of a book store. The store was getting ready to commemorate 9/11 and had displayed books with W's picture in the windows. Leary's fantasy was to crash into the window and then set the books onfire by pouring a bottle of booze all over them and striking a match.
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 06:59 PM
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13. He wants to celebrate his failure, eh?
I love National Geographic Magazine, but I'll be sure to avoid this whitewash like the plague.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 07:32 PM
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14. His personal memories? You mean the difficulty he had
sounding out M-y P-e-t G-o-a-t?
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 07:59 PM
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15. Makes me glad I dropped my cable TV altogether.
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HappyCynic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 09:20 PM
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16. Complain like an idiot
I actually think someone should do that in the literal sense.
Complain that it's full of lies because 9/11 couldn't have happened under Bush's tenure and add links to the clips from Fox where various people (primarily people from the Bush administration) claim no major terrorist attack occurred on Bush's watch. Defend this point as vocally as possible. (Note: logic and facts need not apply, just use selected clips and ignore all evidence to the contrary.)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 07:54 AM
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18. Clinton got a blowjob
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
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19. Bush explains slow reaction to September 11 attack
Source: Yahoo

http://news.yahoo.com/bush-explains-slow-reaction-september-11-attacks-230850794.html

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/bush-explains-slow-reaction-september-11-attacks-230850794.html



The Chimp says he's been in so many crises before, and he wanted to set a good example by not overreacting. Yeah, sure, many crises, you bald faced liar.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
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20. I'm sure all the people in the WTC were much more scared than the little kids in the classroom
I'm still at a loss. How the hell did this person become president again?
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
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23. Sad.
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 12:47 AM by avaistheone1
And it has taken that stupid little toad 10 years to come up with that dumb ass excuse. Pathetic.
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. The Supreme Court appointed him
and then he stole the next election.

He was never elected.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #26
73. Before the Supreme Court appointed him, the media enabled him
If the media would really have been balanced in 2000 and 2004, it would not even have been close. As Bush's father was President, a large part of the older beltway media knew Bush as the bad tempered, mean drunk he was in the 1990s. Yet they manufactured a benign, man of the people image and pushed him as someone you would want to have a beer with - instead of the stiff, boring Al Gore or the haughty, elitist John Kerry. (Ignoring that Al Gore would be far more fascinating to speak to and that John Kerry actually is not haughty when dealing with anyone. In 2005, at an event for Corzine, I personally saw this. There was a loud, obnoxious man in the crowd, who had yelled at speakers before Kerry to finish up as soon as they took the mike. After speaking, Kerry stayed to sign things and speak to people. When this man pushed to the front, told a bad joke, the Senator treated him with respect, lowering his own voice to get him to follow - which he did. Turns out the guy had done lots of volunteering for Habitats for Humanity - including in MA, for which Kerry thanked him and shook his hand. I suspect that very few politicians would have engaged him enough to have found this out. In fact, most of us in the crowd had distanced ourselves from him.)

Imagine if the media would have EITHER showed the abundant good qualities that Gore and Kerry processed - including the fact that both were serious, hard working, people or have questioned anything about Bush.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #20
32. What is "stolen elections," Alex?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #20
69. "Vafanculo L'America!!" says the fat Supreme Don and the rest of the Filthy Five!


Like bvar says: "Cherish Your Memories, Suckers, Because We're Taking Everything Else!"

1963 was the bloody coup. 2000 was the coup de grace.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Can he please explain his slow reaction to Katrina, or the 2008 economic meltdown?
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Excellent point.
And the only crisis I can think of The Boy King having was probably when he ran out of scotch.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. He was on vacation.
See.

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #25
67. This was W's song at the time:
Oh, What a Mis’rable Morning
(sung by G.W. Bush in 2005 to the tune of “Oh, What a Beautiful Morning”)


The intelligence brief’s on my pillow
I just read it and wept like a willow
All Iraq is a mess, and I have to confess
When things will get better is anyone’s guess….

Chorus:
Oh what a mis’rable morning!
Oh, what a mis’rable day!
My popularity’s reeling,
Nothing is going my way.

Now, Tom DeLay is under indictment
And the Democrats love the excitement.
They are getting their kicks, and they’re picking their picks
To take back the Congress in two thousand six

Oh what a mis’rable morning!
Oh, what a mis’rable day!
My whole staff’s under suspicion
Nothing is going my way.

I put all my best men on the budget
I told them, “if you have to, then fudge it.”
They can’t balance a mat on a table that’s flat,
No wonder no rabbits get pulled from their hat!

Oh what a mis’rable morning!
Oh, what a mis’rable day!
My math is looking so fuzzy.
Nothing is going my way.

I misjudged the Gulf Coast situation
But come on, now, I was on vacation
I watched water rise high from my plane in the sky
That didn’t impress folks, Fox “News” told me why:

Oh what a mis’rable morning!
Oh, what a mis’rable day!
I’ve got this strange sinking feeling,
Nothing is going my way!
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #22
43. My opinion too!
n/t
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. Clearly he was desensitized!
:wtf:
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Inspector Javert Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #21
28. Explanation: Delirium Tremens.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
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27. The first plane hit before he went to the school
Even if no other plane hit the WTC WTF is he doing going to the school knowing the tragedy happening in NY? Reporters ask him if he knows what is going on in NY before he entered the school. He said he does, and will be out talk about it after visiting the school. I guess that supersedes any airplane crash be it terrorist or just an accident. And here in this video, he claims he saw live the first plane on a TV in the poor black school which I'm sure has cable. LOL! Why doesn't anyone ask him how he saw the first plane hit live before the news camera's had a reason to film the WTC?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-h4Zc57QKg

:tinfoilhat:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #27
53. He didn't act like a leader. He acted like a criminal establishing an alibi.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #53
72. What a simple answer.
I can't believe I didn't think of it or even hear of it before now.

I think you may be 100% right.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
29. He's had TEN YEARS to come up with his story, and that lameass bullshit is the best he could do?
n/t
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
30. yeah, I bet
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
31. Bush made a "conscious decision to project an aura of calm
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 01:25 AM by BlueMTexpat
in a crisis" ... ? If 9-11 weren't such a tragedy, that would be funny. As someone upthread mentioned, this is the best he can come up with after 10 years? And yes, if misplacing his Scotch, etc. counts as a crisis, then he probably had seen many "crises" before, although hardly on this scale.

And then he jumps on a plane and tries to hide ... such a leader!

If he'd been reading his damn DIEs, listening to people like Richard Clarke, even continuing Clinton-era anti-terrorism policies, instead of trying to whip up a war against Saddam Hussein from the get-go (and that he & his VeeP were planning to do even BEFORE 9-11!), there would likely never have been a 9-11.

That is what infuriates me the most!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #31
63. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
33. And then I read the comments
All of them giving him a pass on his reaction, or rather lack of.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
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81. I saw those.
One idiot after another falling for the false choice that he either sit there "projecting calm" or that he jump up and run screaming. Oh!!! Won't someone think of the children?!?! Apparently, these idiots think Bush was doing those kids a favor by just sitting there. What about the kids who had family working in the WTC? What favors was he doing them? That comments thread was infuriating.
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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
34. Why did his security team let him stay in that location?
He was in a known location that had been advertised weeks in advance. How did they know if a plane was turning and aiming right at the school he was in at that time? Shouldn't his security have moved him to a secure location where he could be in communication with the military?

Almost like they knew the President was safe right where he was at.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #34
82. And then...
...while still at the school,he went on TV to address the country, thus further broadcasting and confirming his location.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
35. The Bush 9/11 Split Screen Video
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
36. Same old from back then. War criminal. n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
37. IMO, he was thinking .... "Cheney better be getting this done right ... !!" ----
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. If it was a planned inside job, he wouldn't have been sitting in front of cameras
without a fucking "impressive" course of action all planned out as well.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Of course, he would -- planned that he was in view -- and innocent -- !!!
Essentially -- "out of town" --

Only a short while before he had put CHENEY IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING --

Cheney was probably a little busy to work out a "fucking impressive course of

action" for the Chimp!


:evilgrin:



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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Because if he wasn't on camera, people would think he was piloting the planes, right.
If he was out of sight, conspiracists would claim that as evidence he was guilty, too. Everything and anything twisted to fit their faith in omnipotent conspiracy.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #44
93. Think they purposefully split up the puppet and the puppeteer ... to make it
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 04:00 PM by defendandprotect
look less like a conspiracy --

As I mentioned, Cheney was put in control of everything shortly before 9/11 by W --

I'm sure they also wanted the Chimp out of the way -- but running him around the way

they did all day made them all look even more foolish --

W was an afterthought that day for Cheney -- that's why W looks like such an idiot!


All of our presidents have spoken of "conspiracy" -- remember Ike and MIC?

Our founders have spoken of "conspiracy" especially between a President and VP -- and

recommended that the administration be "suspended."

Our Dept. of Justice laws deal with "conspriacy" -- and Scooter Libby was convicted

in a conspiracy, as I recall it --

Hillary Clinton referred to a vast right wing "conspiracy" and she's a Democrat!

Koch Bros DLC infiltrating the Democratic Party via the DLC is certainly a "conspiracy"

when the public/voters are unaware of it --

"Operation Northwoods" was a conspiracy among the Joint Chiefs --

"Huston Plan" based on Operation Northwoods was a conspiracy in the Nixon Administration

to shut down the 1972 elections if necessary.

Computer voting is a "conspircy" -- as 2000 was --

Stacking the Supreme Court with those who want to limit our Constitutional rights and

push corporate/fascism is a conspiracy --

Gulf of Tonkin Resolution -- a conspiracy --

National Security state -- a conspiracy --

Project Paperclip -- a conspiracy -

The McCarthy Era -- a conspiracy --

We have a Bill of Rights because the Founders understood "not all men are honest men" -- !!


This is not conspiracy-free America --



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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #39
47. And of course you know this how?
Standing next to him when it happened? You harp on conspiracy theorist as only being 'oneway'...and then you show you are 'oneway' as well. Good day.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #47
98. I wasn't stating fact, I was sharing a well reasoned point of view. nt
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #37
77. Jesus Fucking Christ
The list of Bush fuck ups is as long as my....well, long. Bush tried so many stunts that were originally known by a select few (WMD's anyone) that easily came to light. And yet, people STILL think this tard not only was able to help plan this, but was able to keep it secret with the number of people needed to accomplish it. Sometimes, I wish people would just STFU, as Bush's actions speak for themselves. These wack jobs speak up and it actually works in Bush's favor, as our side is now diminished.
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #77
88. Who was giving the orders while that asshole was just sitting there all those minutes?
Who was in charge. We could see what the shrub was doing, and it wasn't assuming command and control of the situation.

It was dear-in-the-headlights, then when he did move, he flew west, away from the trouble.

Fucking coward!

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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
38. I'd like my President to project calm while taking action.
He just shut down and regressed not having a clue as to what to do next to take charge of the situation.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
40. Rove needed to feed the quadriplegic hamster that powers Bush's thought process? n/t
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MotorCityMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
41. Well, THAT interview will be a must to avoid
And junior has used that excuse before, not wanting to scare the kids.

Saw the headline on yahoo and had to read what he was saying now. Same shit he's said before.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
45. My candidate for most ironic quote from Bush in the OP article:
"Who the hell would do that to America?"
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
46. frikking asshole couldn't react to a closed door on his China trip.
and i don't even want to count the ways he didn't react to shit - from his cheerleading days on.
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
48. Actually, I Heard From A Reliable Source At Faux News
(hows that for a dichotomy?) that he planned the whole thing to get out of having to spell the word potato.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #48
66. That was QUAYLE - Yet another RepubliWanker FAIL artiste
There are so many it's tuff to keep them strayt.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
49. He should just let Rove, Perino, and the rest rewrite his history...
...because he's doing a crap job of it. But, it's Bush, so doing a crap job seems par for the course for him.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
50. Aug. 6, 2001 PDB
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 03:20 AM by Hissyspit
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
51. Why does he look like he's shitting his pants, then?
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
52. Rock. Paper. Scissors. Rock beats Scissors, but how does Paper beat Rock? What happened Andy?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
54. they've all been saying this for a decade. this video hammers his reaction!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhFXZbL_08g

this guy's video tears into the response as being uncaring about scaring the kids - because with them surrounding him he announces the terrible news to their shock! He shouldn't have used them as props if he cared about the kids.

Also, he looks terrified, and frankly, fainting would have been a better excuse than just sitting there instead of being a Commander in Chief and getting up and asking every detail that is known, after merely saying, "I apologize children, I have to go do some presidential things right now. God bless you all!"
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
55. Follows the lead of the schoolchildren
who are now older and have made public statements that make that same observation. Now, after so many years, he effectively says, "Yeah, that's it! I was very mad and I didn't want to scare the children." So after so many years, still dodging behind the kids. It raises the great question though of his astoundingly poor judgment in going through with a classroom visit in a national emergency and not knowing(?) any terrorist linkage despite the practice air alert going on at the same time for that very eventuality. I suppose it might be embarrassing to admit he was unaware and uninformed of the unique air defense "stand down" coincidence or Clark's warnings, which though partially exculpatory like Reagan's memory disease, is not a failure he ever had to admit to in the slightest. Nor will he ever.

The main point is that he was NEVER asked to explain anything in the MSM for any weird or embarrassing behavior. Zero accountability, zero explanations and the questions of more critical observers talking in a national void. This is a constant national disgrace and the lameness extends wide and far. For all the talk here of MIHOP or LIHOP and the so called investigations(ranging from shoddy government CYA's to full blown conspiracy theories) this is what the truncated national mind is forced to settle for, like it or not, the grassy knoll of Bush's drug damaged brain.
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
56. Please, don't explain anything...
I've heard enough excuses...about everything.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
57. That's true. The only two things one can do in a crisis is
either sit and look stupid or run around screaming with your arms flailing. Two bad he doesn't have any other options.
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oldironside Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
58. The only people stupid enough to believe this...
... are the people who were stupid enough to vote for him in the first place.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
59. How about not paying a damned bit of attention to the threat for 8 months?
Bush you suck
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
60. Then him and his regime used the next 7 years inflicting fear in all of America
Including the Children.

I call bullshit on his reasoning.

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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
61. What a crock!
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 05:59 AM by irislake
The evidence for an inside job is overwhelming. And the world carries on as if it ain't true. Sheesh!
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
62. Uh, sure, Bunnypants. That's the ticket. n/t
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
64. He'd be better off just keeping quiet about it.
We all know what he did. We all saw his face. No amount of whitewash will make bush into a hero.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
65. I believe him.
As soon as he was told about the WTC attacks, this became all about HIM. His image was all he cared about and fuck everyone else. Whether he's a sociopath or a juvenile, I have no idea.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
68. What crises? The biggest crisis he had before that was how to get rid of crabs he got from...
...an underage Mexican hooker in his frat days.

True story, btw.

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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
70. Watch the video where Andy Card tells Bush
It's one second at the most. Not tnough time to convey any real information about what was going on. I'm convinced it was some kind of code.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #70
86. And he was allegedly saying "America is under attack"
And Bush had nothing to say back to him! Card didn't even wait for two seconds just in case he was going to give orders or something.
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #86
97. I know. I don't have an explanation for that.
Actually I do, but it gets me branded as a looney by people who haven't seen the footage.
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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #70
90. All you would have time to say is
"It's done."
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
71. Didn't want to scare the kids he used as props when he spoke to the nation?
Like a bunch of human shields.

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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. Props? What props
He was just reading along with the class:


Then there is the famous presidentail bulge:


As well as the not so famous back bulge:
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #71
83. Everyone of those morons...
...defending him in the comments section should be shown this photo and asked "OK, then why did he do THIS?" He stood there in front of those children with the media and everything and announced that the country had been attacked. You can just imagine what the vibe in that room must have been like. And there are all the children that he "didn't want to frighten" right in the thick of it.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
75. Truth is...
There is an indelible trail of Yellow Urine stretching across the central United States
as Bush the Lesser scrambled from one Hidey Hole to the next on 9-11.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
76. He "immediately" thought of the children?
Yeah, right. W nevered processed a thought quickly in his life, especially with respect to thinking about other people. The only exception might be a thought to have another beer.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
78. Look! A war criminal! Oh well...this is America...land of the free ranging war criminal.
Carry on.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
79. Shut the cheney up, Junior. You are a steaming pile of FAIL from top to bottom.
You are a walking disaster area.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
80. I'm Taking Bush's Side on This. He has been in Major Crises in his Life.
Like that weekend in '87. Uncle Noriega gave him 200 kilos of high grade Peruvian coke to move. Instead, Bush and his pals decided to have one crazy ass weeked in Tijuana with a couple of local girls. Needless to say, Uncle Noriega wasn't too pleased when he owed him more than $750,000.

Bush had to be cool as a cucumber when he had a face to face with Uncle Noriega.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #80
91. yep, he was thinking: ''If I just sit tight, my dad will send someone to tell me what to do...''
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
84. He's been in crises before? Like when he ran out of cocaine when
his dealer was in lock-up?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
85. "My first reaction was anger. Who the hell would do that to America?" WTF???
Hey, asshole, if you had actually READ your August 6th daily briefing, you would have known EXACTLY who!!!! :grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad::grr::mad:
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #85
89. So many unanswered questions. So many unexplained events. Still.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
87. Oh! So, it wasn't: "Sure am glad I'm in a one-story building away from big cities...!"
...after all those warnings we had lately...

Note to self, release those warnings received slowly, so by, say, 2011, they'll only be seeing about, oh, 54 of them.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #19
92. Hey, there was many a time the bar owner called time in Midland
before the chimp was ready to stop. Are you going to say that's NOT a crisis?

Yes, I live within 20 miles of Midland, and the apocryphal story here is that one day a Midland rancher recognized the shrub in a bar, and told him, "Son, you've got to stop drinking and amount to something! Run for office, anything!"

Lotsa people with rope looking for that rancher....
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 08:56 PM
Response to Original message
95. Uh, he should be in prison with dick and rummy
for crimes against humanity.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:07 AM
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99. Don't you mean "refresh" the country's memory?
IIRC the "Bush Presidential Library" was going to contain three things: the "Mission Accomplished" banner, the copy of "My Pet Goat" he was reading when Osama bin Laden saved his presidency, and a turd polishing machine in the back room. It seems the turd polisher has been delivered and is in operation.
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