Cain: Wall St. protesters playing victim card

[TomCADem]

Source: CBS News

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on Sunday accused anti-Wall Street protesters of playing the "victim card" - and suggested that those participating in protests nationwide against corporate greed and a lack of jobs are merely doing so out of "jealousy."


Cain, in an appearance on CBS' "Face the Nation," argued that the recent protests against the financial sector were "anti-American," and that they were meant to be "a distraction" from the Obama administration's "failed policies."

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He contended that those protesting against banks were merely jealous of wealthy Americans, or those with financially lucrative jobs, and lambasted them for playing the "victim card."

"Part of it is jealousy," he said. "I stand by that. And here's why I don't have a lot of patience with that. My parents, they never played the victim card. My parents never said, 'We hope that the rich people lose something so we can get something.' No, my dad's idea was, 'I want to work hard enough so I can buy a Cadillac - not take somebody else's.'


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/09/ftn/main20117819.shtml

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So, there you have it. The people who are protesting because deep down they that the rich are better than you. Yet, Democrats are the ones who the corporate media accuses of being elitist.

[FirstLight]

1. ugh

I knew i shouldn't have read that... fucker!

[deminks]

2. As I said earlier, a 1%er afraid for his wealth rather than the direction of the country.

a former KC fed chairman playing the fear card.

And I stand by that.

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[dorksied]

4. Herman Cain - "Umad bro? You jelly?" He's a TROLL.

[CBHagman]

5. Cain actually said worse than that, claiming that Wall Street...

...had nothing to do with the economic meltdown. In an address to the Family Research Council's Values Voter Summit, he said, "Wall Street didn't write these failed economic policies. The White House did."

He called for the demonstrations to be taken to the White House and said, "You can demonstrate all you want to on Wall Street. The problem is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."

Of course the Family Research Council ate it up and no one mentioned what was happening to the country in the fall of 2008.

On edit: Link for the event at which Cain spoke. I'm not certain if there were plans to picket it.

http://www.valuesvotersummit.org/

[oldhippydude]

6. you noticed that too..

I guess thing that really gets me, is that the press just lets blatant mis truths stand..what 4th estate?

[CBHagman]

12. Fact-checking organizations...

...need to pick apart Cain's words. Ezra Klein of The Washington Post would be one I'd expect to get it right. Ditto for Michelle Singletary of the same paper (She has a column today on Occupy Wall Street).

Perhaps someone could put a bug in Lawrence O'Donnell's ear about a Rewrite on this topic.

[oldbanjo]

33. In the case of some one running for President,

let him say all he wants, don't correct him, later you can use it against him.

[Democrats_win]

7. Too bad Cain doesn't address SPECIFIC issues of the OWS protests.

He paints them with a broad brush saying they're playing victims without examining any specific issue that Americans have with Wall Street. For instance Wall Street invested our pensions in sub-prime securities without knowing exactly how bad these securities are. S&P actually wrongly gave these securities a triple-A rating.

There's a whole bunch of serious issues Americans have with Wall Street that Cain should be addressing. Instead he's too lazy to do it!

[jmowreader]

41. You need to remove one word from your screed

The word "without" between "securities" and "knowing" has to go.

The whole racket on Wall Street was both very simple and extraordinarily complex.

Step 1: buy up a vast amount of high-risk debt because high-risk debt pays a shitload of interest. Combine it into high-yield bonds.

Step 2: hedge the high-yield bonds with credit default swaps.

Step 3: sell this shit to people who can't read the prospectus on a complex derivative.

Step 4: sit back and wait. One of two things will happen: the high-risk debt all these things are derived from will be paid on, and you'll make a lot of money off the interest, or they'll default and you'll make a lot of money from CDS payments.

Right now Bernie Madoff must be thinking, "if I would have gotten into collateralized debt obligations instead of ponzi schemes, I woulda made as much money and never got arrested for it!"

[nineteen50]

8. People not heard but

let the financial sector whine and Bush gives them 800
billion. Now who's the whinner?

[FarLeftFist]

9. If Cain doesn't understand what this protest is REALLY about then he is definitely NOT qualified

To be President of the United States. If his brain can't even grapple with this imagine him trying to figure out foreign policy or things like the Arab Spring, etc.

[totodeinhere]

28. Since he is not qualified he should fit right in. After all, they nominated one of the least

qualified jerks in the whole world when they nominated shrub, so why not Cain?

[BeyondGeography]

10. Shallow bullshit

[ixion]

11. IOW: "Let them eat pizza"

lots and lots of crappy, plastic-cheese-coated pizza.

[PSPS]

13. You can always count on a republican to get the noun "cadillac" into their rhetoric.

The other day he said that people "had only themselves to blame" if they weren't "rich and had a job."

This is all code for "them lazy niggers want your money."

Uncle Ruckus much?

[Bigmack]

14. Victims?... what the fuck are we other than victims....? nt

[nobodyspecial]

15. Most would love the opportunity to work hard

They don't want to take his Caddy, just have an opportunity to earn it.

[obxhead]

16. We are victims!

We are victims of predatory practices by WS and the politicians that do their bidding.

[Deep13]

17. Cain still playing the asshole card. nt

[red dog 1]

18. How many OWS protesters want to "take someone else's Cadillac"?

[cyclezealot]

32. Stupid Jerk..

If he had a Volt. Maybe. His stupid Caddy.. I hope the protesters have better sense than to buy a gas pig in this day and age.

[DesertFlower]

19. cain doesn't have a clue. he's completely out

of touch with the average person.

[benld74]

20. ANY of your old pizza customers can claim VICTIM!

[lucky leftie]

21. Not big fans of free speech, are they?

The poor and middle class lost ground for decades as powerful special interests rewrote the rules to benefit themselves. And now, we are being told that we must pick up the tab for Washington's 10 year spending spree, as a handful of favored constituents are sheltered from having to pay so much as a dime. I'd say "victim" is completely accurate.

[craigmatic]

22. I just don't see how anybody with half a brain would consider voting for these selfish

assholes.

[totodeinhere]

29. There are lot of people who themselves are selfish who would gladly vote for someone like that.

That's the definition of the Republican Party, selfish.

[tooeyeten]

23. Clueless Cain

The man has no connection to the working man and woman, none whatsoever, or the current plight of the American worker.

[L0oniX]

24. There's nothing that is "playing" about it ...asshole!

[Arctic Dave]

25. Yeah, that's it, their just not working hard enough.

That statement is about as fucking idiotic as when Sarah Palin said she was the Vice Pres nominee because she "wanted it more" then Hillary.

That guy has shit for brains.

[COLGATE4]

26. To be a preferred Rethug candidate this time around

you have to be certifiably bat-shit crazy.

[beachbumbob]

27. hmm, victim card?

working americans have all been victimized by the crooks that
created policies that have bankrupted our future, glad cain
can see that :)

[workinclasszero]

30. The man is a tool of wall street and a 1%er

What can u expect from a rethug? :puke:

[bongbong]

31. Cains cards

Cain plays like he has four aces in the campaign, but he's stuck with a permanent hand of a pair of twos (due to his race while being a Republican)

[daleo]

34. The point is, "working hard" doesn't work anymore

Work hard all your life and the company cancels your pension plan.

Work hard and the factory is off shored.

Study hard and run up huge student loan debts. Get a highly skilled IT job and later you get to train the IT guy that is off shoring your job.

Work hard, invest your money and lose it all because of fraud and insider trading.

[SoapBox]

35. Hey Herb...STFU.

...go get a pizza and shove it in your "pie hole".

[marias23]

36. It's the Hand That Has Been Dealt Them

McCain - There have been wealthy people in this country for many years - with no real objections. How about asking yourself "Why Now." My answer might be : We have been feeding rich people's neurotic need to be better for a long time. You've gone too far.

[Mz Pip]

37. I hate smug

and Cain certain fits that. Maybe the 1% who aren't victims will support him. Anyone from the 99% won't or is clueless.

[ScottLand]

38. I'll admit it. I am jealous when I see someone with a job, a home

and a future. I want that for my family. How is that playing the victim card? I don't have any problem working for it, Herman. Give me a f***ing job and I'll do just that!

[Matilda]

39. That's a real "let them eat cake" statement.

Congratulations to all those out in the streets and those supporting them. You're very brave, and you just might have started a worldwide movement.

[dimbear]

40. Give a little study to the inverse 666 plan from Cain. Disaster for

seniors and all the less well off folks.

It isn't possible to write a workable tax plan on a damp napkin.

[Kievan Rus]

42. Herman Cain seems bound and determined to talk his way out of the Oval Office...

just like Newt Gingrich, Michelle Bachman and Rick Perry did.

The best advice anybody could give to anybody running for the Republican nomination for President is to keep all their Tea Party nonsense to themselves.

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

43. so 99% of us are "jealous" ...Riiiiiiight

Just jealous, lazy, etc... Gee, why don't we all just magically become gazillionaires? Guess we are just lazy and complainin'.

Shame on us! lol

[unkachuck]

44. "My parents, they never played the victim card."

....maybe your parents were corporate shills and Republican cum-suckers who weren't victims....but we are victims, victims of corporate greed and political corruption....

'I want to work hard enough so I can buy a Cadillac - not take somebody else's.'

....today, if the 'somebody else' paid their fair-share of taxes and didn't expect us to carry their weight and pay for their wars, maybe we could afford to buy Cadillacs....as of now, we're lucky to be able to buy food....

...."jealousy"?....damn straight, I'm jealous....I'm jealous slimy Republican corporate pricks like you have been able to corrupt our political system and destroy our economy and we haven't been able to respond accordingly, until now....

[Javaman]

45. water carrier for k street. nt

[Zorra]

46. No, we're protesting because shallow. ignorant assholes like Herman Cain use their money

to subvert our democracy and control our government, and subsequently, us.

"I want to work hard, so I can buy a Cadillac"

American Beauty, Part II

You know Joe, he's a hard workin' guy
He hates his life, but he don't wanna die
Went to school, but he didn't go far
Wants to be rich so he can drive a sports car
and buy a plane.

He ain't no fool, he gets the scoop from Fox News
and the shrill angry choir, paid to keep him confused
Believes in Church, and America, too
Ain't no real difference but he knows it's all true
just the same.

It's all Right
but it's so wrong
And who are we, to say, you say
Cause it's their life
their same old song

But it's always children who pay.

Ride with Joe down that Great Western Highway
Round and round
and round and round you'll go.
This road gets paved with good intentions every day
and where it ends, you don't wanna know
you don't wanna go

Something is wrong, but he doesn't know why
His distant voices they grow quiet late at night
He feels sorry, when he cheats on his wife
He says she don't know, and that makes it alright.
But she knows
how well she knows

Don't take that ride down that Great Western Highway
Round and round
and round and round you'll go.
This road gets paved with good intentions every day
and where it ends, you don't wanna know
you don't wanna go

and the children will pay
as they go insane.

(lyrics by Summer)

[HughBeaumont]

47. Herm, just drop out. Seriously.

You've just proven yourself to be a comedy act; an irrelevant joker whose blatant ignorance of why these people are where they are makes you completely unqualified to tackle big-picture problems.

We've seen the ridiculous and ultimately tragic results of government being run like a business. Government is NOT business. Making it INTO a business fosters nothing but hypercompetitivism and destroys cooperation.

Whether you choose to believe it or not, we're ALL part of a team. No man functions as an island, and if you choose to believe statements like that "take away from all YOUR hard work", then that's not my problem . . . . that's YOURS.

And is there NO better party at "playing the victim" than Republicans?

[muntrv]

48. That's because they ARE the victims, herm!