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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:09 AM
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Netflix kills plan to split off DVD rentals
Source: AP

Posted: 8:32 AM

NEW YORK - Netflix is abandoning its widely panned decision to separate its DVD-by-mail and Internet streaming services.

CEO Reed Hastings says in a Monday blog post that subscribers will be able to use both services under one account and one password.

Less than a month ago, Netflix Inc. said it would split the DVD rental business off onto a new website, to be called Qwikster.

Subscribers howled at the move, saying they saw Netflix as a destination for movies in general and didn't want to manage two accounts.




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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:14 AM
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1. Wow...
My 14 year old can run this business better than their top Execs.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:31 AM
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5. Amazing how quickly the mighty have fallen
Netflix and Redbox effectively killed Blockbuster (who had earlier polished off the ma and pa rental places).

I always viewed the DVD rental with streaming as a synergistic advantage that would eventually fade away as all content became streamed (it really makes no sense sending digital files through the mail when they can be sent over the internet). The only reason now they are not opened up to streaming is that contracts that exist with the content providers.

More to the point why don't the content providers go direct and cut out the middle man. I see that as potentially the next big move in the market.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:33 AM
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10. There are still a lot of people who either go to the library
to use the computer, use the computer at work, or have dial up. In all those situations, streaming is not possible.

zalinda
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:23 AM
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14. Library? Isn't that one of those ancient, forbidden temples that Indiana Jones sneaks into?
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:04 AM
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15. no, they are bastions of knowledge...
that don't inundate you with millions of pop up ads like the internet does.
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SomeGuyInEagan Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:52 AM
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21. Nope. Use is increasing nationally for library programming.
http://lrs.org/documents/fastfacts/298_Programming.pdf

And, locally, I can tell you that our multi-county/multi-city systems are adding building hours in addition to available electronic reserves, remote locker-style reserve pick-up stations and more physical items to their inventories. It would not surprise me at all if they bring back the old book-mobiles.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:27 PM
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27. our library recently brought back book mobiles.
think it is to service those who cannot get to the libraries due to cut backs in bus service or loss of car.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 01:21 PM
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38. Thanks for the link. We're trying to get funding for a library here
and people are saying "Aren't public libraries outdated?"

Our experience is exactly the opposite of shrinking. We're getting more and more users, demand for more and more services, and more demand for computer access. So we've way outgrown our "temporary" storefront.

I appreciate the link because it gives me reputable information to use in fund-raising requests.
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:12 AM
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16. My library has streaming videos...
as well as ebooks and downloadable audiobooks. They are mostly documentaries, PBS shows and older movies. My library is great. I love it. And when I am really bored, I can go the building and actually borrow a real, paper book.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:37 PM
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22. We can't possibly stream everything.
There's simply not enough bandwidth to convert all of our DVD viewing to streaming. As it is Comcast and others are working on putting limits on streaming due to the massive bandwidth usage of current video streaming use.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:29 PM
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31. If the limits are raised we can
I expect some deals to be worked out with them in the future to raise the caps to allow this to happen in some big deal between movie studios and cable/internet providers. If Comcast et al get a small bite of the stream then then can let it through and probably not count it against your cap.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:07 PM
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35. It's not the limits that would stop it.
The problem is the actual global networks can't handle the load. Our bandwidth usage is far outpacing the physical availability.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:02 PM
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30. The management costs would be too great if you had a bunch of providers duplicating
what Netflix provides in one package.

We, for instance, watch a lot of foreign-language films. Netflix provides them. It would be hard for the individual companies or even their US representatives to handle the trickle of orders for viewing their films.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:35 PM
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33. amazing how many movies they don't have on dvd/bd
Excalibur on BD was horrid. as in hey netflix why don't you have the BD.

qwikster is hard to spell too. sure I'm used to Kwik Trip (Kwik Star in Iowa) stupid Qwik Trip X_X

bout time for a little good news. canceled their streaming. ain't nothing on. except dirty jobs. Brother canceled it altogether
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:15 AM
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2. Glad to know that popular action can change what really matters.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:31 AM
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9. The only thing we export anymore... nt
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:17 AM
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3. Good. I don't want much of what can be streamed anyway.
Classic, indie and foreign films are mostly on disc; the rest of it is mighty like teevee.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:22 AM
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4. yeah but
did they dump the price doubling?
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:41 AM
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6. my thought as well
and I'm SURE they haven't.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:57 AM
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7. Nope.
There was never a plan to actually split the services in any sense except as line items on your bill. It was just cover for the cash grab.



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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:56 AM
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12. Nope...still double what it was....another message mis-read by Corporate America..
...it wasn't that they were splitting the services apart, it was that they wanted to charge DOUBLE what they had been charging for the same thing...


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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:00 AM
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8. Why even bother with them............its been a sham to get more money.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:34 AM
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11. They have much gusto for a company that does not create what
it sells nor control the system with which it delivers what they sell. At the most simplistic level, Netflix is a delivery service that wants to be paid as if they created the content.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:19 AM
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13. hah!
apparently they listened! we do have power over the pocketbook :)
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:15 AM
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17. So there's no option for people who don't want to pay for both?
Some people may only want to stream. Some may not be able to stream. Why should those people have to pay for both?
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:23 AM
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18. Yes
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 11:24 AM by Crazy Dave
They have several plans. Streaming or home delivery or both. The plan was to make them into two separate business and then possibly sell off the home delivery one.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:40 AM
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20. everyone WAS paying for both, before the changes
now you can choose either/or and also choose stick with both, if you want both.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:32 PM
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32. Except now it costs 60% more for both.
everyone WAS paying for both, before the changes now you can choose either/or and also choose stick with both, if you want both.

Except now, people are paying up to 60% more for the same service of both streaming and DVD rental.

Netflix's biggest screw-up here was not putting the blame squarely where it belongs - on the movie studios who are demanding a bigger cut.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:18 PM
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26. That's exactly what they changed to. nt
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:27 AM
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19. ...it was stupid.
Another DUMB idea by Millionaire Management.

Next.
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:39 PM
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23. Breaking: Netflix kills off DVD-Delivery and Internet-Streaming Services
New focus will be exclusively in formal apologies to former customers.

In other news, Netflix CEO, Reed Hastings, discovers the Sun after removed his head from his own ass.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:21 PM
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34. ...
:rofl:
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They_Live Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:51 PM
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24. Hey wait a second
What about Game Rentals? That was part of the Qwikster deal. Are we going to be able to rent games or not?
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:16 PM
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25. i've got no problem with their changes.....
my price went down since i now do DVD only, so i don't have to pay for streaming that i never used.

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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:30 PM
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28. I went with DVD only because they don't have what I like most
on streaming. But I applaud their ability to listen to their customers. Many companies have executives that don't even hear what their customers say. I wish homegrocer.com had been as smart and customer oriented.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:00 PM
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29. Good news1
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 07:45 AM
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36. Marketing 101
The easier and more convenient a service is to use, the more likely it will be used by a consumer.

Why they complicated the situation on top of the price increase I will never know. Don't they have anyone there who has any knowledge of marketing? That decision to split, it reminds me of a situaiton where the head honcho throws out an idea (a bad one) but everyone is so intimidated they simply go along as if it were the best idea ever.

Julie
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:31 AM
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37. NetFlix is, of course, keeping the imposed 60% price increase
Gee ... wonder if that ??



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