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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:15 PM
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'Blind sheikh' son killed by US drone: monitors
Source: Agence France-Presse

WASHINGTON — A US drone strike on Friday killed the son of an Egyptian cleric tied to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, US-based monitors said, citing a militant group.

Ahmed Omar Abdul Rahman, son of the blind sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman, was killed Friday on the "frontlines" in Afghanistan, the Egyptian Islamic Group said, according to the SITE Intelligence Group based just outside Washington.

The elder Abdul Rahman -- convicted in 1993 for his role in the New York bombing, plotting to bomb other targets including the United Nations and a plan to assassinate Egypt's president -- is EIG's spiritual leader.

Attacks around the world have been carried out in his name in recent years. He is currently serving a life sentence in the United States.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5je8RJjCekEkMWL9ifCPysL2ApCMg?docId=CNG.11dae4311c72da72fbbbab9e33e275fb.1d1
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:34 PM
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1. Aweome - he must be bad too.
Have we killed his mom yet?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:43 PM
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2. Is she shooting at US troops in Afghanistan?
Your sympathy for the dead jihadist is misplaced.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:45 PM
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3. Well it doesn't say that, now does it?
Easier to just hop on the next "bad brown people" bus that happens by.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:56 PM
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4. Thank you for your accusation of racism.
It just shows that you have no argument.

As is the case for those more sympathetic to Al Qaeda than to the Obama administration.

But, I'm sure you're right and he was on the battlefield smoking a bong and singing peace songs.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:56 PM
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5. Thank you for your accusation of racism.
It just shows that you have no argument.

As is the case for those more sympathetic to Al Qaeda than to the Obama administration.

But, I'm sure you're right and he was on the battlefield smoking a bong and singing peace songs.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:34 PM
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9. Battlefield? Al Qaeda? It doesn't say that either. And you're 0-for-3.
Just keep diggin' that hole. :D
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 09:58 PM
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6. Do you have sympathy for the dead, murdering terrorist?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:01 PM
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7. Me? No, glad he's dead.
""Dr. Omar had sent a number of his sons to the Afghan Jihad in the days of the Russian occupation, and all of them returned with the exception of Ahmed, who was killed today," the Egyptian Islamic Group said in today's statement."
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:11 PM
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8. I'm sure he was a very, very bad person
So summary execution by remote control was, like, totally justified. It's a good thing we're so exceptional, because indiscriminate killing like this would surely stir up resentment all over the world, and some of the righteous retribution we're inviting might land on innocent people.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:36 PM
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10. "indiscriminate"? In what way?
I'm not sure I understand this word choice.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:42 PM
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11. Sarcasm duly noted, but as we are in a shooting war in Afghanistan,
it is only customary to use deadly force against one's adversaries.

Indiscriminate killing? I really think that's inaccurate. We are using deadly force with more precision than in any conflict in the history of warfare, to the point that our own troops are regulalry placed in great danger before they may engage the enemy.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:55 PM
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13. Um, this is a war, so the killings are supposed to be extrajudicial
and drone strikes are not indiscriminate.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:02 PM
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17. When you have to wait for another organization to tell you who you killed
that's kinda indiscriminate, isn't it? :eyes:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:09 PM
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21. Just because you learned about it today
does not mean the government did.

Drone strikes are never indiscriminate. They can be made in error, but there's always a specific target.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:55 PM
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12. yay .. chalk one more for the wonderful drones n/t
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:57 PM
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14. Glad to see people coming around and roiting
for the US and against Team Al Zawahiri.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:57 PM
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15. Didn't see that one coming.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:02 PM
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16. Neither did his dear old dad. nt
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:03 PM
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18. How tribal.
Can we judge you by the actions of your family?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:06 PM
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19. He was a radical jihadist in a war zone.
""Dr. Omar had sent a number of his sons to the Afghan Jihad in the days of the Russian occupation, and all of them returned with the exception of Ahmed, who was killed today," the Egyptian Islamic Group said in today's statement."

If only you gave Democrats the same benefit of the doubt you give out nation's enemies.
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pettypace Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:08 PM
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20. So if you fight against US troops you're labeled a terrorist?
In your own backyard on top of that?

The war is against Islam. There can be no doubt.

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:10 PM
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22. He's Egyptian. And only bin Laden supporters and Ann Coulter
view this as a fight against Islam.
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:12 AM
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26. Not sure about the automatic terrorist label. But he was an insurgent.
So you can't feel too much sympathy for his death since he was killing our countrymen.

And no, there is no war on Islam. That is hysteria.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 09:54 PM
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27. he was killed in Afghanistan. He was Egyptian.
Egypt and Afghanistan aren't even on the same continent, let alone in each other's backyard. And Afghans see Arabs in their country as foreign meddlers in their domestic affairs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:12 PM
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23. USA! USA!
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:16 AM
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25. Did we grant last minute U.S. citizenship to make it legal?
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 03:22 AM
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28. And another terrorist's son was killed Friday night too in Yemen. ???

Official: Drone attack kills Al-Awlaki's son in Yemen

(CNN) -- The son of U.S.-born militant cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki was among those killed in a trio of drone attacks in southern Yemen on Friday night, a security official said.

The attacks, carried out in the Shabwa district, killed seven suspected militants, the defense ministry said. It would not confirm that Abdul Rahman Anwar Awlaki was among them.

The senior security official in Shabwa, who did not want to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media, said the younger Awlaki had been hiding in the mountains of Shabwa for more than eight months. He had first-hand knowledge of the death, he said.

The Awlaki family did not want to comment.

SNIP

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/15/world/meast/yemen-drone-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:08 PM
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29. Feel better now?
We're spending $2B a week in Afghanistan hunting down people like this - all in the name of making us safer.
In light of the horrendous situation we find ourselves in the "homeland", does this make you feel better?
Are you happy we're killing them over there, as opposed to over here?
Does this killing justify the enormous investment in lives and treasure we have in Afghanistan?
Several thousand people will lose their jobs this week in America.
But let me be the first to wave my Chinese-made US flag over this bit of news.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:17 PM
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30. Proud to be an American..? We sure kill a lot of people in the name of national security and
democracy. :shrug:
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