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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:06 AM
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Now British army is in the dock as Allies outrage world opinion
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=517052

01 May 2004


Now British army is in the dock as Allies outrage world opinion


As pictures of American soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners caused outrage across the world yesterday, human rights rights campaigners warned that they were just the tip of the iceberg.

The international rights group Amnesty International claimed it had received numerous accounts of torture and illegal detention by troops.

The US and British Governments said the American pictures represented the isolated actions of a handful of renegade GIs. But, hours later, the allegations of a more widespread problem were given dramatic support, with the emergence of a second, even more shocking set of photographs. This time, the pictures were of British soldiers appearing to beat up and urinate on an Iraqi detainee.

The two sets of images are likely to be disastrous for the Alliance's attempts to pacify Iraq, endangering its troops in the country and shattering what remains of its standing in the Arab world.


All the denials won't make matters any better either. Someone needs to sell our government leaders a clue. It's time to fess up and come clean.




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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:21 AM
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1. I do think this is just the tip. Would you film really bad stuff?
I mean like killing some one this is bad enough. It is also what the whole Middle East will think, that this is just the stuff that got out. I guess I am glad my pass port is out of date.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:23 AM
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2. Unfortunately these are not just isolated incidents
they are examples of a pattern of behavior, that were accepted standard operating procedure.

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Memekiller Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:37 AM
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3. On a recent airplane trip...
On a trip to DC, I sat behind a guy doing a powerpoint presentation for a "portable interrogation device", complete with graphs on how well the device was working in the "field".

Can anyone think of what a legitimate "portable interrogation device" would be?
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:42 AM
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4. "portable interrogation device"?
Let me guess, the guy was selling sharp pointy sticks to the military. :eyes:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:45 AM
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5. My guess is a pack of cigerettes
and a box of matches.

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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:48 AM
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6. Hmmm
Are you really sure some of those numbskull "interrogators" would know how to operate a box of matches? :eyes:

I say go for the sharp pointy stick. It's foolproof I tell ya!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:54 AM
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7. Sure looks like a cigerette to me?



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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:56 AM
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8. And pointy fingers
in the absense of sharp pointy sticks. :eyes:
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