Arabs repulsed, furious over prison photos

[leftchick]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/01/iraq.prisoner.reax/

<snip>A government-leaning newspaper in Egypt, Akhbar el-Yom, showed the photographs of U.S. soldiers posing by naked, hooded inmates, under the banner "The Scandal". Al-Wafd, an opposition paper, displayed similar photos beneath the words "The Shame," reported The Associated Press.

In Cairo, a spokesman for the Arab League said it had complained of abuses by U.S.-led forces after a mission to Iraq in December. The League feared more cases of ill-treatment were going unnoticed, he said.

"It is beyond the words of despicable acts and disgust that we feel at watching such photographs," Hossam Zaki told Reuters.

"The irony of it is that Saddam Hussein never really held a banner of spreading freedom...He was an autocratic ruler, a dictator, a repressive ruler, whatever you want to call him. It was expected to witness such atrocities under his rule," he said, according to the Reuters report.



Taxi driver Ahmed Kadri views photos of apparent abuse of Iraqi prisoners in an Egyptian newspaper.

[DS1]

1. Guess we have some more papers to shut down

[AlinPA]

2. Those abuses just put us into a huge problem. While Bush* crowd are

angry only because the pictures were made public, we are worried about the revenge of the Arab world. Bush*'s "bring 'em on" and "crusade" statements pale in comparison to this.

[cliss]

3. There have been journalists hovering

around the Abu Ghraib prison. Several have been shot and killed in cold blood by American forces. In one incident, a journalist was filming with a camcorder outside the prison. After he was killed, they defended their actions saying he "looked dangerous".

Now we know why they didn't want any filming.

[leftchick]

4. omg cliss, I had totally forgotten about that.

This has become so damn ugly.

[loudsue]

5. Exactly: And MOST Americans will only see the photos, while

the whole extent and depth of the corruption goes on under the radar. This whole thing is much uglier than most Americans will ever know.

:kick:

[seemslikeadream]

6. Convinent that those photos of the coffins

came out before these. Gives people other things to talk about.

[Karenina]

7. BINGO!

You, my dearest Loudsue, win the prize! :party: :argh: :party:

[ConcernedCanuk]

8. the pictures weren't published in Iraq's major papers - doesn't matter tho

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Even though the Americans are having a problem believing their Military could behave like this.

The Iraquis don't.


The Iraqis don't NEED the pictures.

They've seen their sons, daughters, parents, friends etc. blown to pieces, shot by snipers, buried in hasty graves, delimbed and abused for over a year at the hands of their "liberators".

All they have to do is THINK what goes on in those prisons.

They know.

(sigh)

_{(see comments and images from others at Locked Thread on same topic.}

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[saigon68]

10. Where pray tell is this?

Whose children?

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[Just Me]

13. Here we go again. Disassociation. Denial. Delusion. n/t

[saigon68]

16. You mean the Arabs? Saddams people?

Are they the ones in Israel?

[Calico Jack Rackham]

14. Oh, I forgot.

They can send their children in front of them while they shoot at each other, send their children to blow themselves up and no more than a hazing somehow is important.

Who gives a crap.


Decent human beings give a crap thats who.

I guess we all missed the Bush admin memo which says torture, abuse, and sodomy are now to be reffered to as "hazing". This does seem to be the popular thinking over at the Freeper zone.

[Just Me]

19. They always displace failure to "be a decent human being" elsewhere.

It's a mystery to me.

[Just Me]

11. So, now the US-led forces have known since DECEMBER!!!

The official notice date just keeps getting moved further and further back.

Damn!!!

First, we are caught in a lie about the reason we supposedly went to begin with (reminder - WMDs and bogus ties to 9/11).

Then, our third "excuse" (that would be liberation) has been totally demolished by evidence of brutalities sickening to any healthy mind.

The Busholinis will no longer be able to LIE and say, "they hate us for our freedoms".

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[saigon68]

17. I don't mean to be rude

But who is they?

[dude1394]

18. they would be arabs

capeesh.

[saigon68]

20. Understand---Arabs

So you feel the Arabs deserve whatever because as a group they get their kids to do terrorism and blow themselves up in Iraq and Israel?

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[Just Me]

29. Study the US civil war,...you will find your fill.

[saigon68]

33. wee wees like LYNNDIE is pointing out?



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[Calico Jack Rackham]

31. Actually trickster

FReepers are very consistent, in stupidity and moronic ideas.

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[saigon68]

42. "they are a pestilence on the world"

So you think they need to be eliminated in some type of final solution?

How about just putting them in a labor camp to reeducate them through labor.

Or just walling them up and guarding them behind bricks and barbed wire?

[mistertrickster]

53. Ah ha! now I get it . . . they are too uncivilized to care about, until

we civilized ones bring them the blessings of civilization, and then they'll be human at last.

Okay, that is too stupid to bother to responding to (it's what the Victorians believed and westerners have spent 100 years refuting it, but in another century you FReeps will be where liberals are now . .. although even that's not altogether a sure thing, look at the fundamentalists and their rejection of the scientific facts of evolution.)

As for the last assertion, that liberals don't care when Stalin kills his own people, we

1. do care but what are we supposed to do about it other than invade Russia?

2. if invasions are such a good conservative idea, why didn't Coolidge, Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan do it? After all, the Hungarian uprising was in 1956, and we had a five star Republican general in the WH, and the Soviets came in and crushed them while we watched.

Ditto when the Shia rebelled against Saddam Hussain under George the first.

Don't blame liberals for conservative fuck ups.

[Just Me]

59. Inspiring,...very inspiring, well-articulated post.

WOW!!!

:bounce:

[mistertrickster]

63. Thanks, I needed to pound a FReep today . . .

I feel better now--like a plunge into ice water . . . refreshing heh!

[Just Me]

70. You are so welcome. n/t

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[Calico Jack Rackham]

26. I guess Dude thinks

Homo erotic sexual abuse is OK for prisoners. Perhaps he would enjoy a little "Ottoman Justice" of his own.

[Just Me]

34. Say what? "Ottoman Justice"?

Kindly explain.

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[Calico Jack Rackham]

43. Hmmm

I'm neither kind nor compassionate to idiots who discriminate against a whole race due to their own ignorance. You are the one who claimed getting forcefully butt fucked is only "hazing", so I merely implied that you may enjoy the experience yourself. You do seem to get off on seeing naked swarthy men be sexually assaulted.

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[Calico Jack Rackham]

The Ottomans

were notorious for sodomizing their enemies(and friends too). I also think the Brits are still mad that the Turks buggered Lawrence of Arabia

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[Just Me]

52. Tell me more of your knowledge concerning the Ottoman Empire.

Are you a history buff?

[Calico Jack Rackham]

68. I like to read History books

I got embarrased pretty bad once when I was 19 in Australia. So I decided that if I was going to be sent all around the world I should make a solid effort to learn about various cultures and histories of other peoples so I don't ever come off as the dumb American. Ever since then it sort of stuck with me even after I got out of the service. I don't know everything but for some reason things like "Ottoman Justice" seem to come to mind at times like these.

[Just Me]

69. I was just curious about your take,...

,...especially since I recently became more interested in such things. Comparatively speaking about "empires", the Ottoman seems to me to have been the most civil. But, I am just a novice with respect to history. Actually, I am beginning to believe that,...we are all truly novices in grasping all that, getting to the humanity of all that.

[minkyboodle]

55. bye bye

bigots are not welcome on this board go back home where that shit flies.

[Calico Jack Rackham]

21. Oh Boy.

You know this because? How many Muslims have you met, have you even been to the ME, or do you just get all of your talking points from Faux?

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[Mayberry Machiavelli]

54. What's that, the guy's FR profile? eom

[ConcernedCanuk]

57. NO - that's an post of his in the Dallas Maverick forum

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The image in my post will take you there.

But he has no profile in there either

Surprise!

He's a busy boy with over 5800 posts tho!

I wonder if they all show such wisdom? :shrug:

here's the full link

http://dallas-mavs.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=36&threadid=16648

[Just Me]

61. Hey,...how'd you do that?!?!?!

That takes skill!!!

:bounce:

[ConcernedCanuk]

65. Google is such a wonderful thing - no?

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[Just Me]

71. You're a "quick draw",...huh *LOL*!!! *eom*

[SilasSoule]

62. He's a mavericks fan?

No wonder he's bitter.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

66. LOL eom

[ConcernedCanuk]

67. LOL - don't know anything about the Mavs, but I still hadda laugh -

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[argyl]

25. These "ignorant beasts" were defining algebra and studying astronomy

5,000 years ago while our enlightened ancestors were struggling to survive in Europe.

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[Calico Jack Rackham]

51. No your just into promoting

sodomy and homosexual battery. Jesus would be proud.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

28. Welcome to DU, 1394! Don't forget to vote for Kerry in November! eom

[Just Me]

44. You are SOOO good at that (hopefully you don't get deleted this time).

:yourock:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

46. The Body Snatchers WILL be heard from! LOL this bozo further

outed himself and is headed for the trash can of DU history. Must be the full moon I guess...

[minkyboodle]

56. love your pics

Why in the hell did that other one get deleted it was classic.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

58. Don't worry, I'm sure it will have plenty of opportunity to reappear in

the next 24 hours, LOL...

[mouse7]

32. Thank you for the Christian words, Rev. Falwell

Your represent Christian values so well.

[ConcernedCanuk]

22. Have these pictures been published in any major Western Newspapers?

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I know they are all over the web,

but how many (if any)newspapers actually published any of them in print?

I don't buy any newspapers up here,

so I don't even know if Canada did anywhere -

anyone?


_{. . for the troll}

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[NeoConsSuck]

37. Hey Freepboy..

your words seem to describe *exactly* the fate awaiting your POS country.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

40. A little "irony" is good for the blood. LOL (eom)

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[Just Me]

50. A home for democracy where bigotry and fascism is REJECTED!!!

Democracy,...LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!!

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[saigon68]

60. ADIOS

TOO BAD THIS GUYS QUITE A CELEBRITY AT THE DALLAS MAVERICKS WEBSITE

http://dallas-mavs.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=36&threadid=16479&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=



dude1394
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Posts: 5875
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Wednesday April 21, 2004 10:59 AM


What law?? You mean the law created by the UN that has a bunch of dictators condemning israel when they blow up a terrorist but say nothing when those same terrorist blow up children? If that's the law you are talking about to hell with it.

And my statement is that BUSH is being honest. Clinton woudlnt' agree to the right of return but was too chicken-s*** to say so. Even when GIVEN the west-bank the palestinians choose to continue blowing themselves and children up.

So yea, it was HONEST of bush to just say the facts. The settlements aren't going anywhere, the "right of return" isn't going to happen. Now deal with it!! What are you going to do anyway, blow up women and children. You can't "deal" with these people, can't happen.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

64. Yeah, it's really great reading about Middle East policy on the

DALLAS FREAKING MAVERICKS newsgroup for Chrissakes! I guess there isn't much basketball to talk now that the Mavs are eliminated, LOL.

[Chicago Democrat]

72. Americans repulsed as well!

Bush making excuses