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SaintLouisBlues (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:14 PM Original message |
CBS: Enron traders "caught in the act" manipulating CA energy markets |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's what the "recall" was all about.. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I keep saying that to my Ahnold lovin' CA friends |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. We supposedly had a 12B shortfall, and the lawsuits were due to settle |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Sigh, we still can't get rid of him |
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keithyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
83. Point is, nothing will be done about it. Arnie won, public dumbed... |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Your dancing "thingys" made me smile,...broadly!!! |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. Enron |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
103. Have they settled yet? |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. It only took them 3 years to figure this out. |
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SaintLouisBlues (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Here's a link |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. As Beavis would say: Heh, Heh, Heh....Cool! n/t |
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KissMyAsscroft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. Gee, really... |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. That's in the past. We should all stand behind the Gubernator now. |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. Especially since many, many people were sending them the info. |
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TEXASYANKEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. This can't be true! |
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dae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. and don't forget about VP Dick! |
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markdd (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. Is this really new info? |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. really slow on the uptake on that story, aren't they? |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Slow is better than nada,...yes? Hell, at least it's surfacing. |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. okay, I'll be grateful |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. Really. Just like the Iraq situation. |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. that's the one |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Hey, you,...enjoy,... |
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Kikosexy2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. But will... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. Supposedly, CA will have another 'energy shortage' |
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phoebe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
51. Shell Oil .. |
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WatchWhatISay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
107. My husband works for Shell |
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webtrainer (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. Link |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. This would be a slightly bigger story... some execs knew |
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SaintLouisBlues (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. You nailed it webtrainer. |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. just read pg. 109 of "Power Failure" by Sherron Watkins |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. Ah, but the actions of these few absolutely do not represesent the |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 09:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
85. They had it coming? |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. The REAL REASON that Arnold Schwartzenegger was..... |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. have to post one of my all-time favorite news reports |
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swag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. Is it just me |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
19. Uh oh, didn't Der Gropenfuehrer meet with Kenny boy? |
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ursacorwin (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. yep |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. will these do? |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
75. I JUST MIKED ARIANNA HUFFINGTON AND TOLD HER TO SPILL THIS! |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Could be, however, that with the article you passed along |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
20. Any chance of a trial before December? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I think a (some?) midlevel trial(s?) were to start... |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. Wait... stop the press... we never heard that before... |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. CBS is pounding it home - I'll be tuned in |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. so maybe these midlevel trials are going to provide |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Just heard the tapes. Unfuckingbelievable!! |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. heard online or on tv |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It was on tv 5:30pm news here in Midland |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. When Enron was questioned about the tapes, |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. laughing at their thievery - it was disgusting |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Details? |
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malachibk (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. It was great to hear the folks at Enron ENDORSE bush! |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
58. They really are. Making a clear visual connection to Bush policies. |
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FleshCartoon (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
40. The only thing keeping me from puking... |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Here is the transcript from CBS |
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FleshCartoon (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yes, I've read it already. |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Puke? That's the wrong word. |
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pfitz59 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 02:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
77. I live in Snohomish County |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. Well, you have the PG version. |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. LINK TO STORY HERE: Enron Traders Caught On Tape |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Son of a ,....HO that has no GLO!!! |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
46. Great Reporting by CBS |
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ILeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
49. I'm sure Arnold, Dick, and Junior are appalled by this! |
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Kikosexy2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. F*#King ... |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
53. J. Clifford Baxter's 'suicide' should be reopened as a 'Assassination' |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Sugarland, Delay's district with the amenable examiner. |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. I wonder if poppy's fingers are on this n/t |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
80. You needn't say more....Hmmmm Delay's country, 'eh? |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. The true significance of this is if it can get Gropenfuhrer voted out of |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. Just a Little Stroll Down Memory Lane |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. Somewhere in California..... |
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Whoa_Nelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Here ya go! |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
59. The Return of ENRON!! The BEAST Is Back Baby! With A Vengeance!! |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
91. "Barnacle Bill the Sailor" |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
94. ENRON really never left they just changed names and a few players |
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Alpharetta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
63. What is the current state of Enron settlement w/ California? |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Those are all excellent questions. I wish I knew too. |
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belab13 (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. If there ever was a reason for revoking a corporate charter |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. They probably killed people, plain and simple. See post 52. n/t |
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rfkrocks (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
66. Corporate swine destroy the fabric of this land |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
68. Yes, and we knew about this shortly after it happened |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
72. I'm feeling some traction here... very good. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I want these wheezers identified and shamed. I want someone to twist |
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TheWebHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
76. Holy FU** MoveOn or Kerry has to make a commercial on those tapes |
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TryingToWarnYou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 04:50 AM Response to Original message |
78. Does this seem odd? |
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rfkrocks (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 06:58 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Criminals say and do the dumbest things |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. My Guess on why it was recorded |
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Claire Beth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
82. interesting! |
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dryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:43 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Enron Story |
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Rebel_with_a_cause (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
86. Here's the videofile, in case it hasn't been posted |
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qwertyMike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
87. Was all over the CNN moning show |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
88. Herr Gropinator has some 'splainen to do. |
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Nomad559 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
89. Enron Traders Caught On Tape - CBS Video |
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Naipes (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
90. I duped this in a different thread...sorry. Here's a link. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
92. This Story Must Always Be Linked To This Story. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
95. This too |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
96. Can someone help |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
97. When does the Supreme Court decide on the Cheney Energy meetings? |
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
98. I'm having trouble believing this. |
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Logansquare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I guess you've never met traders before |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:51 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. CBS got the tape from the Dept. of Justice (n/t) |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Maybe not dierctly from DOJ |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. I worked in the energy industry for seven years |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 08:17 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. The DOJ tried to stop their release.. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. CBS is just trying to cultivate a group of viewers (victims) |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I don't doubt that for a minute, and it goes further |
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