CNN breaking - - Reagan funeral events (no link)

[AlGore-08.com]

This is my transcript, there's no working link with this right now

Monday - Reagan lies in state at Reagan Pres. Library
Tueday - Reagan lies in state at Reagan Pres. Library
Wednesday - Reagan transfered to DC
7:00 pm formal cermony at Rotunda
8:00 Reagan lies in state at Rotunda
Thursday - Reagan lies in state at rotunda
Friday - National Service 11:30 ET - approx 1:30 PM
Transfer to CA
6:15 pm PT private burial at Reagan Pres. Library

Friday the 11th will designated as "the national day of mourning"

Details will be posted on:
http://www.reaganmemorial.com

[JDPriestly]

1. Wow!

The Reagan rites will completely overshadow news from Bush's European jaunt.

[AlGore-08.com]

4. I'm watching the coverage, they extended invites to the G8 attendees

So it may be a number of them who leave the summit to attend the national service.

They announced that they extended invitations to Smirk and the living former Presidents, but haven't had confirmations of who is going to attend. IMNSHO there is no way that Smirk is going to miss Reagan's funeral.

[lancdem]

5. I imagine all the former presidents will go, health permitting

I wonder if any of them will be invited to speak.

[PartyPooper]

2. This is going to be a long, difficult week for Nancy.

I hope she holds up okay.

[ikojo]

33. I'm thankful for my iPod. It will be put to use

this week that's for sure. I will not be able to take the lovefest that will be on the radio.

[napi21]

3. Oh boy, guess I better go to Blockbuster!

I really do appreciate honoring a former President. But I can see the entire week of nothing on TV but scenes of lines of people visiting the Reagan Library, then the Rotunda, then of course coverage of the ceremony, and then the funeral.

Wonder if Shrub is a bit ticked that his G8 is going to lose out on much publicity?

[PartyPooper]

7. Don't worry, Karl and Karen will be sure * gets his publicity.

That's one thing you can count on.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. Milking it for a solid f*ing week

SOrry, I am getting pissed now.

[Carolina]

14. me, too

An entire fucking week. JFK died on a Friday and was buried on Monday. Four days in November for the good guy cut down in the prime of life yet we have to endure a week of this crap for one the baddies who's legacy is wreaking havoc as we speak (write). Spare me while I
:puke:

[calimary]

18. No, guys, this is just fine!! No worries!

Look - we're getting it taken care of ahead of time.

You'd rather this happened in July, around the time the Dems are heading to (or are already beginning things in) Boston?

No no no. Let's take care of it all now. Let 'em get it out of their systems. If all the obit material and film retrospectives and pageantry and pomp and circumstance starts getting to you, go rent a video. OR - some good movies out now: "Harry Potter." "The Day After Tomorrow." "Raising Helen." "Shrek Two"! plus "Van Helsing" if you haven't seen it yet - all you who join me in panting over Hugh Jackman. I don't care what kind of costume he's in. He's still Hugh Jackman! Lots of stuff to do.

I am, however, stashing two Sunday issues of the "L.A. Times" away for my kids. They might like a marker of this event when they're older. Their kids can take it to current events class or something. I must confess that, for awhile, I halfway wondered if maybe Reagan was our version of The Thing That Would Not Die. All things come to an end. Even him. It's like some of us thought George Burns would never die. Or Bob Hope.

And remember: This. Is. The. End. Of. An. Era. More than a few especially on the fringes of the Dark Side will be aware of this. Painfully aware. Because Reagan represents their zenith. For them, it didn't get any better than him. He heralded the sunrise of the right wing and fundamentalists' influence over the country and its policies. They can, and many will, look upon his passing as a symbol of the end of their glory days. Who among them will NOT turn to the present, and see who - or rather WHAT we have in charge now, and not find their hearts sinking? MIND YOU: This is a VERY tender, touchy, "owwwwee" time for conservatives. It's making them face everything they were and everything they've become. And it's not pretty. Even back then, I didn't regard the Reagan era as a pretty one, shoulder pads and sequins or no. But even that period seems at least relatively benign compared to what we have now.

[Nay]

30. Agreed, Calimary, this is a perfect time to get this stuff over with.

In four months, they'll be saying, "Reagan who?"

[Longhorn]

32. That may be

but in just under three months, I wouldn't be surprised if the Republican Convention is nothing but one big tribute to Reagan, somehow tying Bush into his "legacy."

[SayitAintSo]

38. I lit a candle for you at church Carolina ....

LOL....Just hold your nose, rent some movies, it all be over before you know it. :)

[agingdem]

23. Too bad...

Reagan wasn't Jewish...he'd be in the ground by now.

[Cooley Hurd]

25. I have to agree (but for different reasons)...

...because modern historical precedent in dealing with state funeral of a President has been a bit more restrained:

FDR died on Thursday, 4/12/45 and was laid to rest in the Rose Garden of his estate, Springwood, in Hyde Park, NY on Sunday, 4/15. JFK was assassinated on Friday, 11/22/63 and was laid to rest on Monday, 11/25.

However, Abraham Lincoln died on Saturday morning, 4/15/1865 and, after a long train trip which stopped at every large city to lie in state - from Washington, DC to Baltimore, Philadelphia, NYC, Albany, Buffalo, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Chicago, and was finally laid to rest in Springfield, IL on 5/4/1865, 20 days later. By the time his body arrived in Springfield, it had decomposed badly and was distressing all who viewed it...

I guess we can be thankful they aren't trying to emulate the Lincoln funeral...;)

[dflprincess]

41. And, when you think of it Kennedy died unexpectedly

(Roosevelt, too to a certain extent though eveyone knew his health was failing) and they got them buried with great pomp in barely 4 days.

They've had years to plan this extravenganza and it's going to take a week? I thought the days when Reagan could torture me were long gone.

[LibDemAlways]

42. They are trying to emulate the

Lincoln funeral - a big, splasy show at taxpayer expense.

[Snellius]

28. This is what it was like when he was president.

Is it over yet?

[Jade Fox]

31. My sentiments exactly....

I've been biting my toungue, but crimony!

[weedthesmoke]

48. Yea...thank god we didn't have internet when JFK got the same rites

Then we would have to read about all the "pissed" people complaining about JFK getting milked for a solid f*king week. At least this time it is one of the "enemy" that is getting presidential rites and we can feel justified in getting pissed.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

52. JFK was buried 3 days after he was shot

Fairly timely considering his death was sudden and unexpected.
So I say BULLSHIT to your post.

[coda]

54. JFK was a sitting President who was assassinated.

Your dog don't hunt.

[TahitiNut]

55. LBJ died at 4:33 P.M. CST on Monday, January 22, 1973

His body lay in state at the Johnson Library in Austin from noon Tuesday until 8 A.M. Wednesday, with an honor guard. It was then flown to Washington where it lay in state in the Capitol Rotunda until his funeral on Thursday (January 25, 1973) morning at the National City Christian Church in Washington. He was buried that same afternoon in the Johnson Family Cemetery just a stone's throw from where he was born and just down the road from the Texas White House.

Three days from death until funeral, including cross-country trips.

The press reported that Nancy Reagan wanted the same arrangements for Ronnie as LBJ got.

Somebody apparently changed her mind.

(This is f*cking disgusting. It's necrophilian politics.)

[The Night Owl]

8. National Day of Mourning for Reagan?

Make sure to wear white that day.

[Tansy_Gold]

29. No, wear red instead

The following is an email that's making the rounds. I had no intention of posting it here, figured someone else would and if not it wasn't that important. But on the request to wear white, I just thought some might find this more appropriate:



"My name is Nadia Jensen and I have an idea for a quiet revolution. Please take 5 minutes to read my email, then help if you can:

"Here's some history behind this idea: When Norway was occupied by Germany in 1940, Norwegian women began to knit RED caps for children as a way of letting everyone know that they did not like what was happening in their country, that they didn't like having their freedom taken away by the Nazis.

"My great aunt, Karin Knudson Myrstad, was one of the women who knit red caps for her children and others.

"Similarly, in Denmark, women knit red-white-and blue caps (colors of the Allies) for the very same reason. The result was that whenever Norwegians and Danes left their homes -- to go to the store, to work, etc, they could see that THE MAJORITY opposed what was going on in their country. As you know, both countries organized effective Resistance efforts and changed history -- everything that happened began simply by wearing red! (or the colors of the Allies, in Denmark).

"I believe, as many of us do, that at the very heart of our democracy is our right to oppose certain policies of our government. Increasingly, our government is redefining "freedom" in ways that make too many Americans perceive that it is risky to oppose its policies -- and in particular, current inroads about individual freedoms and policies in the U.S. and abroad. However, many of us DO oppose what our government is doing to individual rights -- and I have an idea that will allow all of us to recognize each other very easily. SO...

"I have been thinking that it's time to take action in a way that is effective and easy for all of us to do: Just wear red every Friday between now and election day. Wear a little or a lot -- just be sure that when you leave your house to go about your day -- to work, to school, to the store, to the gas station, wherever you go in your daily routine -- that everyone who sees you will see that you are wearing red because you believe in freedom and you don't agree with our current administration's policies at home or abroad.

"I'm certain that we'll see lots of us wearing red for freedom -- because WE ARE THE MAJORITY. We just need a way to show each other who we are!

Between now and election day, ask everyone you know to wear red for "Freedom Fridays".


And Tansy Gold closes with, what better day to start than June 11, the national day of "mourning" for Reagan?

[DUJunkie]

51. Only one problem with that ideal.

Every year Kansas City Chiefs fans wear red on Fridays, through-out the entire season. Ironically enough, it's called red Friday.:shrug:

[shanti]

36. fuck that

it's my son's graduation day, and i'm NOT FUCKING MOURNING!

[Ilsa]

9. Crap.

All freaking week long. I hope cable will be running some good movies (not Hellcats of the Navy, please).

I guess I'll spend even more time on DU.

[russian33]

10. I am having Dejavu moments...

..of when we burried Secretaries of Communist Party in USSR..when Brezhnev was burried, the schedule was similar...thank God there's more channels on TV here!

[Ferretherder]

11. Dude(or, dudette), why'd ya' leave out the rest?

Friday, around midnight - dig up the 'Gipper' Saturday - 6:30 am PT - transfer to pre-selected taxidermist's shop

Wednesday - 12:00 noon - start of big city U.S. fund raising tour for GW in lavishly decorated crystal coffin, wrapped in silken red, white, and blue flag, with solid gold-leaf cord and tassels

Following election - world tour of 'the greatest non-living president of this entire universe, and all alternate ones, too' (affectionately referred to as the 'Bonzo has most DEFINITELY gone to bed' tour)

Following 1000 year world tour - installment of now fossilized corpse in the entrance to the White House of the United Republican Universe.

[jus_the_facts]

13. chilling.....

:puke: :scared:

[AlGore-08.com]

16. Dudette, if it matters...

:)

[Ferretherder]

22. It doesn't.

...only an open mind - THAT matters.

And by the way, it wish it WAS Al Gore in 2004! But hey, Kerry's most definitely got my vote.....I'm not a complete idiot.

[Gloria]

12. The worst will be cloying speeches and oozing commentary....such as

what I heard this morning....via an interview on the BBC...Some guy saying that Reagan was........"kind."

Nearly puked. KIND???????? HOW?????????????????

[AlGore-08.com]

17. I was watching this amazingly awful People Mag/CNN bio when this broke

The amount of emphaisis they put on him being a born-again Christian was truly frightening. They also emphasized that his Dad was a Democrat and an alcoholic in any equally creepy way.

[LibDemAlways]

45. He was not a born-again anything.

He avoided church like the plague.

[AlGore-08.com]

47. I'm just telling you what the People/CNN bio said

It was very heavy handed - - they credited his religion with teaching him racial tolerance.

They also made the amazing claim that the fact that he believed he participated in events he only saw in films (like the liberation of concentration camps) was charming, rather than an early symptom of the disease that eventually killed him.

[Pale_Rider]

15. What no Irish wake?

http://www.janbren.freeserve.co.uk/An%20IRISH%20WAKE.htm

[calimary]

19. When does the big gold British necklace go back?

My son's class made a field trip, last year, to the Reagan Library. Upstairs in the hallway of the office suites, there was a large display case of his various ribbons and really important international awards and medals. Prominently displayed, fully round as it'd be when draped over your shoulders, was a multi-linked gold - uh - well, let's call it a necklace. Or a decorative chain belt that was too large. It was finely worked, and the real thing. It was draped over Reagan's shoulders during some big ceremony presided over by the Queen. Some big honorary Master of the British Empire-type affair. The gold ornament was ceremonial. Reagan didn't realize that. When the Queen placed it on him, he said - "Oh, can I keep this?" The Queen was reportedly so startled by this unusual (to her) request that she blurted out "yes" pretty much without thinking. It was only later that everyone learned this was only for show, and it belonged to the Crown, being a very old official and historic decoration. In the interest of permitting all concerned to save face, it was announced that the Palace made a special, one-time-only compromise that allowed Reagan to keep it as long as he lived. Upon his death, it was to be returned to the Crown. Wonder when they'll be sending it back, or whether the Palace will send a courier?

[Piperay]

20. Well, that's another week

shot to hell and gone out of my life forever. :argh:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. Look on the bright side...

...it's only a week.

[Generator]

21. Except for 60 minutes

and they better have Sibel Edmonds on dammit and the Sopranos, I'm keeping the TV off.

National day of mourning-for us it's a national day of deliverance.

Everything ends. This too shall pass. November 2nd. It's coming.

[0007]

37. Nancy and the Gipper on 69 minutes

[Mr.Green93]

24. will John Hinckley get to go?

it could help him find closure.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

26. Wow...it's going to take a FULL week to give this guy the big dirt-nap?...

Even my trash truck comes around twice a week!!

[lucky777]

34. Jesus Fucking Christ this will never end . . .

Reagan 24-7, this sucks.

Wasn't he the one who broke the air controller's strike, bloated the military, destroyed the welfare state, and presided over Iran-Contra?

They are making this into such a big fucking deal, I'm afraid to turn on the TV: even Showtime has a made-for-TV movie about Reagan getting shot. This is going to be a brutal week.

[keithyboy]

56. This too shall pass.

Not to worry. It will all be over before Clinton's book is released.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

35. So, how does this compare with the Nixon funeral.

This sounds like a week of Reaganomania in the media.

[Cooley Hurd]

40. Nixon's funeral was low-key - no state funeral...

...just a funeral in California. The last state funeral to compare this to would be LBJ's in '73.

[Red State Rebel]

58. I heard on one of the news channels that the family decides.

It is up to them how formal, etc. they want it to be. Nixon's family decided not to do the Capital thing but Reagan's did. I think LBJ was in the Capital, but I don't remember for sure.

[Piperay]

61. Nixon's was classy & dignified

understated at the Nixon Library not over the top like this is going to be but leave it to the Raygun's they spell class with a capital "K". :puke:

[Tight_rope]

39. Good week to catch up on sleep!... Thanks! n/t

[despairing optimist]

43. He put the PUKE in Repuke

I want to remember him as he was: tax cutter to the rich and powerful, apologist for the mean-spirited and self-righteous, killer of people with AIDS whom he thought unworthy of federal help, destroyer of Nicaraguan self-determination, door slammer to the homeless and about anyone else who needed a helping hand who wasn't already well off.

Who could forget such gems as "Trees cause pollution" and "Ketchup is a vegetable"? Remember his secretary of the Interior, Earl Butts, who wouldn't let the Beach Boys perform on the Mall because he said they were subversive? We'll miss you, guy. At least we still have your children Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Wolfowitz to carry on in your tradition.

He was a great actor, like Mary Tyler Moore, able to turn the nation on with his smile as long as he remained awake; thus, his legend lives on. Sadly, he has been surpassed in the competition for the worst president in US history by a late entry in the race. My guess is that historians will look less kindly on him than most of those paying tribute to him for what will most likely be the rest of the year.

Hang in there, guys. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

[LibDemAlways]

44. This is all bullshit.

A simple, dignified ceremony at the "library" would have sufficed, but this business of carting the remains back and forth across the country with motorcades at either end -- only to end up back in Simi Valley - is a huge waste of taxpayer dollars. I won't watch a second of it, and I hope the media whores see their ratings sink.

[KalicoKitty]

46. Next, they’ll want him on Mount Rushmore

Reagan had a lot in common with the Dimson...both dumb cowboys!


The people who want to worship his Alzheimer riddled mind must remember that his "achievements" had to be cleaned up by Congress and the following administrations. I don't mean any disrespect to people with Alzheimer's, but nobody with this disease has any business being POTUS.


Reagan was responsible for more national debt than all other presidents combined and nothing to show for it... He ran up the deficit. Like George Junior, he gave the wealthy huge tax cuts, and then there were the massive layoffs, tanked markets, bankruptcies, foreclosures, etc. There were no new safeguards for workers or the poor...instead the richest 1% got immeasurably richer at everyone else's expense.


He ignored the warning signs of the S&L scandal that broke during Poppy Bush's rein. (Remember Neil, the chimp-in-thief’s brother!!!)


Overseas there was Iran/Contra and a horse crap war in Grenada to divert people's attention from the servicemen he got killed. He ran up the deficit.


He is also responsible for not taking AIDS seriously at the beginning of the epidemic and was further responsible for the attitude that led to discrimination against people with AIDS. He would not fund research and services and even prohibited effective education of gay men.

[leetrisck]

49. A week to bury Reagan and we can't see flag-draped

coffins of our military brought home - we can't even give them that one last honor.

[TahitiNut]

57. The dead from Iraq are snuck in quietly ...

... just like this corrupt adminstration is ashamed of them. That, of course, can't be true. These people know no shame. They're f*cking ghouls.

[stevedeshazer]

59. Great point

So true.

It says a lot about the United States when you look at how corpses are treated by class.

The Idiot-in-Chief will show at Reagan's funeral, but will never show in support of our dead and wounded military.

[GarySeven]

50. A perfect Mark Twain quote ...

for MY opinion about Reagan's funeral:

I could not attend the funeral, but I sent a note saying that I approved of it.

[dArKeR]

53. Chen saddened by death of `Taiwan's best friend'

AFP AND CNA , TAIPEI
Monday, Jun 07, 2004,Page 1

President Chen Shui-bian (???) was saddened after learning of the death of former US president Ronald Reagan on Saturday and asked the country's representative to Washington to convey his sympathy to Reagan's family, according to a presidential aide.

"President Chen said Reagan was Taiwan's best friend because of his support and friendship to Taiwan. His passing away is a loss for the United States and the world. Taiwan people will always remember his friendship and assistance to Taiwan," a statement issued by the Presidential Office said yesterday.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/06/07/2003174063
 

[Chovexani]

60. Let the Reagasm begin

Fucking spare me. :puke:

Oh well, I needed to work on some neglected writing projects anyway. No TeeVee for Chovexani this week.

Party on Friday, DU? I'll bring the champagne (and sparkling cider for those of you in recovery).