Regan's family viewing at the library

[frankly_fedup2]

I'm watching MSNBC and Nancy Reagan is kissing her husband's casket and trying to hold it.

Could the media not let this woman and her children have a moment alone the first time they see his casket.

I find that disgraceful.

[bluedog]

1. was suppose to be PRIVATE

was doesn't the media understand about the word??? My God, let the family mourn in peace..there no need for them to air every word or or movement.my heart went out to Nancy.......she couldn't even share a deeply sorrowful moment with her beloved husband.

[TahitiNut]

5. The presstitutes on CNN called it a "private moment"

:wtf: BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT!

There's not a f*cking thing "private" (or even intended to be) about a Hollywood actress hitting her marks in front of cameras and an audience of millions! F*cking whores!

This ghoulish "Week at Bernie's" is nothing but partisan necrophilia.

In 1973, LBJ was interred less than 72 hours (Thursday, Jan 25) after his fatal heart attack on a Monday (Jan 22).

The GOP (Ghoulish Obscene Predators) are dragging this obscene propaganda spectacle out for seven fucking days!

It's Stalin's Tomb and Les Invalides rolled into one. Appalling! It's the same "Cult of Personality" symptomatic of autocratic assholes throughout history!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

7. This is obscence!!!

It's all a show to prop up DAS GOP!!!

Also, this is way below the line of acceptance. Let the Family Grieve in private already!

:argh:

[Walt Starr]

8. And peoiple actually complained about a few posts on DU

I knew for a FACT nothing I said would even compare to the obscenity the media and the Repukes would do.

NOTHING!

[Seeking Serenity]

17. C'mon people

Look, I have no love for Reagan as president, but it's America's first state funeral in 31 years. It's a "man bites dog" story (because of the rarity of it) for the media, the kind of stuff they love. Besides, if there's one thing we do well, it's pomp and circumstance and pagaentry.

Look, just turn your TV off for a week. Politics is on hold for now, so you won't miss anything. Come back on Monday and let's get fired up again. A week off won't hurt anyone.

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[diamond14]

21. pot calls kettle black !

:puke:

[TahitiNut]

42. Gratuitous and condescending personal remarks are presumptive ...

... and not appreciated. You don't know me. You know next to nothing about me. Your personal comments are unwelcome.

[LeighAnn]

33. Yes, I'll bet this gets old for even die-hard supporters

By Friday people are going to be burned out on it, hopefully the big topic of conversation will be Iran Contra. The hits I've gotten on this page have quadrupled

http://www.hereinreality.com/irancontra.html

[cestmoi]

45. YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MARK.

The one big thing working against this contemptible act is that except for hardcore repugs most people don't have an emotional connection to Reagan. What I want to know is the Nielson ratings for this week. I think that will be telling.

[PartyPooper]

6. The cameras were so close I actually could read Nancy's lips.

While standing at the casket, to the minister she said, "I don't believe it". She said this at least twice...I believe the second time was to daughter Patty who immediately hugged and comforted her.

I'm amazed that nobody broke down in tears.

It was so touching and sad.

[RummyTheDummy]

38. I noticed that too

I probably couldn't find one thing I agreed with Reagan on. I think Reagan was overrated as a president. I think he pales in comparison to FDR and JFK and Clinton.

But I can't deny she's genuinely been devastated by his passing in front of the cameras or not. That doesn't make him an angel or her an angel. What is shows is a woman's devotion to her husband and the grief that comes with his passing.

[rinsd]

2. Let them have their moment....

I absolutely despise the press when they feed on someone's grief.

[Walt Starr]

3. It's a mediawhore attempt to prop up the chimp

nothing more.

[everdene]

4. FoxNews was sooooo inappropriate!

Linda Vester was the host for the show and it was split screen.

On the right side, they had the procession with all the solemnity appropriate.

ON THE LEFT SIDE, THEY HAD RICH LITTLE DOING IMPRESSIONS OF REAGAN!

Seriously, it was obscene! Linda Vester was saying that all the joking was done in good taste! Gak!

I punched out an e-mail to them (like that's gonna do any good).

[Gin]

9. I found the site of nancy touching the casket very sad...they had a long

relationship... and I have no love for either of them...but her psersonal loss is a big one even though he was mentally gone...he still filled up her space. I feel for her.

[keithyboy]

10. Listen, he hasn't been in the realm of the living for over two years.

That's precisely why I can't watch this stuff on TV. The media whores will try to milk this for all that they can. The problem is it will all be phony and based on many untruths.

[TankLV]

11. The one thing anyone can't take from them is that they truely loved each

other.

My mom's and now my aunt's hearts were absolutely BROKEN at the death of my father and then his twin brother.

My mom would have collapsed at the grave if I wasn't holding her - almost wanted to dig at the dirt.

My aunt still breaks down 8 months after my uncles death.

I really feel for this woman.

The media whores strike again.

Simply sickening.

My heart goes out to her.

This is NOT right.

[calimary]

12. Truly. Why the hell didn't they let her have some peace?

I remember how my mother-in-law sobbed when my father-in-law died. Agony was the only word I could think of to describe it. MAN, how she wrung those kleenexes into shreds by that gravesite. It was so sad.

It's true - the one thing nobody, no matter their political leanings, can deny about Ronnie and Nancy was their love for each other. That showed everywhere. It showed prominently in the CBS movie that was excoriated for being so rough on them. He really was her world. And even while I reviled the man for his policies and their impact on the country/world, I'd bet money that he never cheated on her. I hope she can find some peace knowing he's at rest, finally.

Funny how she's probably going to go up in everyone's estimation now. Just like what happened with Jimmy Carter. And, frankly, with her willingness to speak out about stem cell research, she'd deserve it. Bless her heart.

[saracat]

13. I can deny it.

If you have done some reading ( at least of the less biased stuff. Most is hero worship!) you would know that Ronnie had a really hard time with his breakup with Jane Wyman and never really stopped loving her. Nancy actively pursued him and when he didn't reciprocate her feelings, she trapped him with a pregnancy.Nancy was preganant with Patti when they married. I think that was why he was so detached and referred to her only as "mommy". And Nancy has often said"she loved being Mrs. Ronald Reagan and everything that came with it". She also said she missed being First Lady. I think her devotion was based on aquisition and social clinbing.
Maybe they grew to love one another through the years but it was not so in the begging, and their is no evidence that either of them had any interest in their children.

[teryang]

19. This is theater

Each of the participants has their own cynical motivations. One does not "mourn" the death of a niney three year old. This is so naive.

If you've had the experience even in a loving family, in contrast to the dysfunctional Reagans, going to such a funeral service, is a matter of respect and nostalgia for a time long past when the person you used to know still existed before their total incompetence. Deep emotion, like mourning or grief passed some before. Get serious. What are you going to say? What a untimely death? What a tragedy? I've even heard preachers say this at services. What is really experienced is relief.

Let's face it this is Nancy's last stand on the big stage. She was never a good actress.

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[saracat]

46. As a theatre person

I confirm , you are right!Want a job?

[diamond14]

22. nancy never loved ronnie...if you lived through the reagun presidency,

nancy's distain for ronnie was pretty clear to see....nancy was a BIG time social climber, she HATED outright ronnies children from his first marriage...she broke up that marriage herself...nancy was a very ugly enabler to the KILLER reaguns administration....another reTHUGlican "family values"...pregnant outside of marriage, breaking up a decent marriage, hating her husband's children, enjoying the large tax cuts for the rich, and cheering the killing of American's children by cutting off their food, their schooling, and their medical care...Nancy enabled the whole thing, even ran the presidency a LOT of the time, since ronnie was already in full Alzeimer Disease Deteriorated in his FIRST term....

nancy hated ronnie too....she stayed into it for her own glory...and she is running the funeral so SHE gets maximum exposures as the failed movie star...a 7 day movie starring the witch, nancy reaguns...

it reminds me of Greek tragedies...where BOTH reaguns and nancy decided that AIDS should NOT be dealt with....if they had thrown some money into AIDS research, the ensuing medical advances may well have cured Alzeimers Disease...so they BOTH suffer from a disease that it was well within their power and government money to cure....BOTH were complicite in the murder of hundreds of thousands of people...BIG TIME KILLERS, con people, corrupts...a life of luxury on the backs of the poor....

[magglepuss]

32. Nancy

Goodness, You are so remarkably well spoken.

[Piperay]

39. And...your point is????

:wtf:

[LibDemAlways]

14. For anyone too young to remember....

Jackie Kennedy remained composed and dignified in public - three days after witnessing her 46-year-old husband's murder. She held onto her two small children, and while her grief was palatable, there were no theatrics. I'm sure Nancy is grieving for Ronnie, but trying to hold onto the casket is a bit much. Someone should tell her to get a grip.

[Shopaholic]

15. Look-the Reagan family could have barred cameras. . .

but they didn't. When I was watching I first thought. . "Those cameras need to back off". Then it occurred to me that the Reagan family had to give the permission to allow those cameras to be there in the first place. I sort of changed my thinking about that revelation.

[brook]

20. The camera...

shutter noise is a constant annoyance as the people file by. I would venture that the "library" is documenting this. And, yes...the TV cameras are obviously there by design and with permission. Nancy could have chosen to black coverage out of the "private family service".

[orthogonal]

16. Different people grieve differently

I'm sure Nancy is grieving for Ronnie, but trying to hold onto the casket is a bit much. Someone should tell her to get a grip.

It's pretty presumptuous to tell someone else how to grieve, or how to deal with her grief.

But hey, why don't you head down to the next exhibition of the AIDS Quilt or the run for breast cancer, find someone crying over a lost partner or child or friend, and tell them to get a grip? I'm sure your sober and unsentimental perspective will be appreciated.

[gauguin57]

23. reagan family agreed to cameras ...

It's not the media's doing ... the Reagans MUST have OK'd the cameras being there ... no way those cameras would have been there if they'd not agreed to it. They could have had their private service somewhere more private or asked that no cameras be allowed at the library today.

They wanted to share their private grief with the nation, I'm convinced. Ronnie and Nancy were actors and lived in the White House; Ron Jr. is on MSNBC, and used to perform in a dance group. Patty has acted, too, I think, and freaking posed for Playboy. This is a media-savvy public family. I'm not saying Nancy's putting her head on the casket, etc., wasn't genuine ... I've watched family members at the caskets of their spouses, and it went pretty much like that. I just think they CHOSE to do that rather than keep it behind closed doors.

Nancy and Ronnie shared their relationship with the public for decades before his Alzheimer's really kicked in -- all that handholding, mutual eye-gazing, canoodling at the ranch ... this is just an extension of that.

And MERV GRIFFIN was in the back row, for god's sake!

[TahitiNut]

26. Remember, this is TWO days after he died (or was thawed).

Nancy'll behave like {1} she had no clue his was dying (rather than 10 years) and {2} it's her very first chance to see the coffin (rather than being privately viewed in the funeral home).

We're going to be treated to partisan theatrics that will put a Viking King's funeral to shame ... along with a huge dose of revisionist history.

I half expect them to open the coffin, slice off parts of Profit (yes, 'profit') Ronnie's carcass, and hand them around in a new GOP 'communion.'

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[rasputin1952]

30. Jackie was a class act...

her husband never made it to 93. She showed an immense amount of dignity throughout the entire proceedings.

I remember when the left Love Field, her aides had asked her to change fromt the bloos spattered pink suit, and she said no, she wanted the people to see what had happened to her husband.

I think that the most touching moment of the entire procession though, was when John stepped forward and saluted his fathers coffin; that still chokes me up.


O8)

[diamond14]

24. hardly anybody showed up...and the flowers left outside were such

a 'little' pile...gosh, I've seen more flowers piled here for a guy who died in a car accident....

[Justice]

27. I mean this sincerely

I watched the tape on C-SPAN-2. It was odd - a highly private moment, almost intimate - viewed by the world. I was mesmerized yet uncomfortable at the same time. All I could think of was reality TV.

I thought the minister was far too eager to hug every woman in the room.

[GoldenOldie]

28. Private Family Viewing

I don't think this part of the death watch was supposed to be a private family scene. The final burial .....after he is shipped from coast-to-coast-to-coast, will be for family members only.

[PartyPooper]

29. Exactly. The family did have some private moments before the cameras.

I suspect there were a few prayers with an open casket. Then they unleashed the ceremonies.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. The captive mainstream media shows this, but NOT the funerals of...

...the dead soldiers returning from the Middle East.

Amazing.

[riverwalker]

34. Suddenly the Reich Wing loves funerals

after ignoring 850 soldier's funerals, now they can't get enough of Reagan's.

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[saracat]

37. What I don't get

Is why you don't see the irony of the RW sloppering over the flag draped coffin of Reagan,who sacrificed nothing for this nation, and having the public view his casket 24/7 while denying the public the right to honor and view the flag draped coffins of our true heroes, the American soldiers who die in Iraq.
Bush is to deliver the eulogy.I do not think it right for him to attend this funeral when he has not attended a single military funeral.But I guess like to like. Reagan was also a chickenhawk who stayed home and made training films during WW11. He liked to make up stories about liberating concentration camps though. Apparently his war stories were movie scripts !

[Shadder]

44. Bush is to deliver the eulogy?

great, shit talking about shit.

[teryang]

41. I'm not here to bury Caesar, but to praise myself

The unbelievable narcissism.

[TahitiNut]

43. For a pathological narcissist, it's ALWAYS about him.

DimSon has almost no capacity whatsoever to be a passive attendee -- except to treat an event as something "in his honor." Even then, his body language and expression SCREAMS "it's about how *I* look at it!"

[nonbelief]

40. Ronald Reagan's in a library?

That must be a first!