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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 07:57 AM
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U.S. Will Revise Data on Terror
WASHINGTON — The State Department is scrambling to revise its annual report on global terrorism to acknowledge that it understated the number of deadly attacks in 2003, amid charges that the document is inaccurate and was politically manipulated by the Bush administration.


When the most recent "Patterns of Global Terrorism" report was issued April 29, senior Bush administration officials immediately hailed it as objective proof that they were winning the war on terrorism. The report is considered the authoritative yardstick of the prevalence of terrorist activity around the world.


"Indeed, you will find in these pages clear evidence that we are prevailing in the fight" against global terrorism, Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage said during a celebratory rollout of the report.


But on Tuesday, State Department officials said they underreported the number of terrorist attacks in the tally for 2003, and added that they expected to release an updated version soon.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=716&e=28&u=/latimests/20040609/ts_latimes/uswillrevisedataonterror
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:11 AM
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1. Well gollllllll-leee.
Who would have thought that this administration would lie to put themselves in better light?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:15 AM
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2. Snipped one line to early...the next one is a doozy.
Several U.S. officials and terrorism experts familiar with that revision effort said the new report will show that the number of significant terrorist incidents increased last year, perhaps to its highest level in 20 years.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:56 AM
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7. Gee, ya' mean their f-up policies have actually made us/world less safe?
:eyes:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:36 AM
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10. From "prevailing in the fight" to "worst in 20 years."
Up is down, black is white, blah, blah, blah.

Straight from the "Say the Lie Loudly, the Retraction Quietly" file.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:38 AM
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3. Oopsy! Gosh, Why Do They Always Make Errors That Are GOOD
for them? :shrug:
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:15 PM
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16. That's Bartcop Rule #, well, I don't recall the actual #, but it's
a main Bartcop Rule.

If someone makes a mistake in their favor, expect them to repeat that mistake!

Aha! I found the actual rule! Except it's a Law!
From http://www.bartcop.com/1095.htm

Sidebar:
Remember Bart's Law #2
Any time a person or entity makes a "mistake" that puts extra money in their pocket, expect them to make that "mistake" again and again and again. That's why refineries have fires now and then, because a fire allows them to scream "unexpected shortage" so they can gouge us on the price of gas.

fob
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:48 AM
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4. Iraqi Information Minister or Richard Armitage.....
What's the difference??????

Richard Armitage: "Indeed, you will find in these pages clear evidence that we are prevailing in the fight" against global terrorism, Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage said during a celebratory rollout of the report.

Iraqi Information Minister: "There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!" "Be assured. Baghdad is safe, protected." "I triple guarantee you, there are no American soldiers in Baghdad."
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:49 AM
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5. put the terrorism report in with the environmental report
and you can have a contest in which department lies best.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 08:53 AM
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6. Add the phony jobs report and you have a...
trifecta! lol
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:09 PM
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15. Yep this is Enron style accounting applied to government.
Report your losses as profits and when caught red-handed in your lie, quietly issue revised figures without comment and pretend that is really what you said all along. They are odious snake oil salesmen of the lowest caliber.
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Danmack Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:03 AM
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8. And we're supposed to believe anything this admin says????
I don't-Not a damn thing they say doesn't get adjusted some way or another.

Liars one and all.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 09:08 AM
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9. Caught lying again......
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 10:48 AM
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23. ABC put the words "Kerry" and "lie" in the same headline...
In reference to his military records, yet, NO where at ANY time did ABC EVER put "Bush" and "lie" together, in spite of NOT finding WMDs, the forged Niger documents, the Plame leak, etc., etc., etc.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:15 PM
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11. kick
:kick:
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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:35 PM
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12. Republican Revisionists
First they revise economic numbers downward on a quarterly basis, now we're revising terrorism numbers upward.

If this doesn't cement the "strong moral leader" as a total fucking revisionist, I don't know what will.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:04 PM
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13. *KICK*
:kick: and I would suggest adding (Terrorism Increased Under Bush) to the title, just to give it more attention.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:40 PM
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18. Excellent idea, unfortunately my ability to edit has passed
*
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:05 PM
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14. Oh Yeah *Clears Throat*
"Why does the State Department HATE America?"
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:38 PM
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17. Who would have thought?
I'm totally shocked.
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judgegina Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:46 PM
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19. More...



WASHINGTON (AP) -- The State Department adknowledged Thursday it was wrong in reporting terrorism declined worldwide last year, a finding used to boost one of President Bush's chief foreign policy claims -- success in countering terror.

Instead, both the nubmer of incidents and toll in victims increased sharply, the department said.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:51 PM
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20. Are they doing this because of mounting evidence re criminal propaganda?
Is that the reason for all the sudden, "oops,...we're goofing the numbers" thingy?
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 12:10 AM
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21. U.S. Wrongly Reported Drop in World Terrorism in 2003
That's the new headline. And it's more appropriate, don't you think?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/11/politics/11terr.html
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:55 AM
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22. nothing to do with putting out anything but the most honest, accurate info
Secretary of State Colin Powell said Thursday the errors were partly the result of new data collection procedures. "I can assure you it had nothing to do with putting out anything but the most honest, accurate information we can," he said.

"Errors crept in that frankly we did not catch here," Powell said of the report, which showed a falloff in the number of attacks worldwide in 2003 and the virtual disappearance of incidents in which no one died.



http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-06-10-powell-blame_x.htm

Lying scumbag :grr:
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chuckhoward50 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:00 AM
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24. So has the false claim of
... reduced terrorism appeared in any of Bush's campaign ads? And, if so, didn't Bush "approve" the ad with the false claim?
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Red Fox Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:17 AM
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25. Whoa caught bush jr not telling the truth?
Get in line, it's a long one.
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:43 AM
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26. How could they pass such a report off as legitimate in the first place....
Didn't Rumsfeld recently confirm what he said in that leaked memo that the government does not know whether it is winning the so-called "war on terror" and even lacks the concepts and/or standards to measure their progress? That the creation of new terrorists may outnumber the ones they have supposedly captured and killed?

I see contradiction after contradiction. This is exactly what happens to liars, murderers, and theives, enventually the facade starts to break to reveal the ugliness underneath.
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