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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 03:59 AM
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Document warns Guantanamo employees not to talk
By Toni Locy, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Military and civilian employees at the U.S. prison for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were warned recently not to talk with attorneys who represent detainees held there, according to a document prepared by the legal office of the Army-led task force that runs the facility.

The document, obtained by USA TODAY, says that soldiers and interrogators are not required to give defense attorneys statements about the "personal treatment of detainees" or any "failure to report actions of others." It also says that refusing to cooperate with defense attorneys "will not impact your career."

The warning — titled "Interaction with Defense Counsel" — has surfaced at a time when the treatment of the nearly 600 detainees at Guantanamo is under scrutiny because of the abuse and sexual humiliation of Iraqis in U.S. custody at the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad. Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, former commander at Guantanamo, went to Iraq last year to share interrogation techniques used in Cuba.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-06-10-gitmo-gag_x.htm

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dand Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:08 AM
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1. It makes sense,
to manage an effective gulag or stalag you need to muzzle the help. It is necessary to sacrifice a Private or Corporal every once in a while to make sure of Quality control.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 05:05 AM
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4. I wonder if this Quality Control existed at Bergen Belsen?
Just a thought.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:04 AM
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8. don't know about "quality control"
but here's how they made their trains run on time:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/27/print/main504730.shtml

excerpt:

Black told Reuters that evidence uncovered after the book's publication had emerged on the role of a special wartime IBM subsidiary known as Watson Business Machines that reported directly to the New York headquarters through the Geneva offices of International Business Machines Corp.

He said his research had uncovered the existence of a 500-man Nazi statistical operation in Krakow that handled the complex task of scheduling trains used to transport prisoners from other European nations to death camps in Poland.

This so-called Hollerith Department of Polish Railways also calculated the rate of deaths per square kilometer due to progressive starvation and other arcane facts compiled to satisfy the Nazi's lust for statistics, Black said.

Leon Krzemieniecki, likely the only man still living who worked in the department, said in the book he did not understand at the time the role his office had in transporting Jews to the gas chambers. "I only know that this very modern equipment made possible the control of all the railway traffic in the General Government (of Poland)," he said.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:10 AM
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2. Oh, really!
A Defense Department spokesman said the document was aimed at ensuring that Guantanamo employees "know what their rights are." The spokesman said the references to detainee treatment are "relevant examples that make such training better."

How thoughtful, wouldn't you say?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 04:28 AM
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3. Strange
It seems strange that the notice didn't state that talking to investigator or attorneys wouldn't negatively impact their career.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:14 AM
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5. How nice, they are worried about the rights of the military and civilian
employees at Gitmo. They're the only people who's rights they've cared about so far.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:20 AM
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6. Even if subpoenaed?
(Not sure I spelled that correctly.)
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 06:52 AM
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7. Two words: James Yee
James Yee attempted to smuggle pics, etc. of torture happening at Gitmo, only to be severly fucked with by the Army (charged with Adultery?!?) Here's a guy who has the goods on the whole mess. Is he still legally obligated to keep mum, or is he now free to talk?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:11 AM
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9. Not free.
He is still in the military. There were other heavy charges that were dropped. This was a bogus case to teach others a lesson.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:46 AM
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10. Army Codespeak: not helping the lawyers "will not impact your career."
really means that talking to the lawyers will harm your career.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:51 AM
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11. Who directed the memo be prepared?
Who signed it? Who directed it to be distributed?

Conspirators.

They are conspirators in war crimes and in a cover-up.

Un-freakin'-believable!!!
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:06 AM
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12. usa concentration camp.....I hate that they are doing this torture
stuff in our name and getting away with it.....
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 01:22 PM
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13. kick
:kick:
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