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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:49 AM
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Another assassination in Iraq...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5192903/

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Gunmen killed the cultural affairs officer in the Education Ministry on Sunday, the second attack on an Iraqi official in as many days, authorities said.

Attackers ambushed Kamal al-Jarah outside his home as he was leaving for the office at about 7:30 a.m. The attack took place in the Baghdad neighborhood of Ghazaliya, a predominantly Sunni Muslim neighborhood where support for Saddam Hussein's regime had been strong.

U.S. convoys have often been subjected to attacks in the northwest Baghdad neighborhood.

Al-Jarah died of his wounds at the Yarmouk Hospital, said Abdul Khaliq al-Amri, a ministry official.

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:53 AM
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1. That's the way to remove one version of the puppet government to
start another puppet government from scratch! WAY TO GO, BUSH* AND BREMER AND RUMSFELD AND WOLFOWITZ AND POWELL AND CONDI AND THE REST OF THE CRIMINALS IN THE GOVERNMENT!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:54 AM
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2. They're picking them off
one by one..no wonder Brahimi got out of Dodge.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:55 AM
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3. Another thought....
where is their security?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:00 AM
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5. Whose???? Remember that they were saying they were training
them with not too good results.
Reminds me: a colleague's neighbor was sent to Iraq (he was there like 4 months ago) to train policemen. He had trained several and become their friend and their families. After training them, 3 of them got killed almost immediately. Their families blamed the Americans and him personally for the deaths of the policemen. He wanted to come back home but they ordered him to stay and train more of them. He felt he was condemning the Iraqis to death.

Besides, I have a friend who lived in Colombia (he was a CEO of a big corporation there.) He would not use bodyguards because he said they would be the ones to sell him to kidnappers.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:01 AM
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7. Got a list of all the Iraqi officers handy?
In ranking order? We can figure out who's next on the hit list.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:58 AM
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4. Why aren't these people being protected by a US form of secret service?
Do our mercenaries only work for Paul Bremer?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 06:56 AM
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16. The U.S. protects only those good Iraqis that go along with U.S. Policies
It would be intestering to know which ones they are, 'eh?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:10 PM
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19. I didn't think anyone hadn't noticed that we don't control Iraq
U.S. forces live behind 20 foot high blast walls in compounds. They race from compound to compound getting blown up as they go.

We DO NOT control Iraq. Our troops are surrounded by 24 million supremely pissed off Iraqis and they will and are doing basically as they please.

It is lost. It's just a matte of how long it takes before we admit it.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:01 AM
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6. Damn...Is anyone thinking that these are inside jobs! I am!!!!
With all the damn so-called high security that these people are suppose to have, I can't help but to think that these assassinations are inside jobs. :shrug:
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:03 AM
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9. Why would it have to be "inside?"
They're all being murdered just by leaving their house at 7:30 to go to work. Where is the Bushy security at that time? It's as if Bush is setting up the new Iraqi govt. for failure.

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:28 AM
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12. see my post # 5. Usually that is the case. n/t
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:13 PM
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20. perhaps
Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 09:16 PM by Aidoneus
the resistance forces have shown themselves to have better intelligence information than the occupyers do. Many of the targetted strikes on high level collaborators, occupation officials, and visiting royalty (Wolfowitz at the hotel, for example) could only have been done with the kind of exact information from an inside source. It is a fact that the various Resistance and some criminal organizations have people at every level of the collaborators' puppet institutions and military/intelligence (forgive the oxymoron) positions of the occupation. On the contrary, the occupyers and their lackeys have largely failed to infiltrate the resistance movements and strongholds (the Sufi orders, for instance, and the Madinat al-Sadr suburb was impossible for even Baathist agents to penetrate, let alone the invaders even with all the money and military power in the world) .
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:24 PM
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23. How bizarre.
Are we to believe that Iraqis are just loving having the U.S. appoint their government....that they think the torture of their citizens is really cool....that they applaud our theft of their resources and the random shooting of their civilians?

Why would anyone doubt that Iraqis are pissed off enough to knock off the puppets we've installed?

I don't get it.

:shrug:
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:01 AM
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8. Is this the same killing from a day ago?
like in a day ago our time? OR is this an additional killing to the one about 24-36 hours ago?

I'll go look up your link.

Isn't it lovely how the so-called news networks just go infotainment on the weekends????????????????????????????????!!!!! Like the world just stops during this period of time. Geeeeeeeeez
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:05 AM
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10. it was a foreign minister who got whacked yesterday.
today, is someone different.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:00 AM
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17. The Education Minister was in the victim in this case.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:02 PM
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18. In his stomach?
j/k - of course just a typo! :)
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:25 AM
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11. Most dangerous job in the world...a position in Dubya's Iraq Gov't...
...wouldn't want to be the replacement or anyone else in the current "Interim Gov't"...when this is all over, will there be any possible "leaders" left in Iraq?

Geez, didn't anyone think of having a bodyguard and 24x7 security for these people...

here's yahoo's link on the story:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040613/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_attack
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 03:27 AM
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13. No security will stop ....
these guy from getting killed. Remember another high level official that was in line to get into the Green zone and got killed via a car bomb near his car? The Americans stay in the Green Zone most of the time, hiding out.

This "new" US Puppet Govt. will not be accepted and the Iraqis damn well know that they are still under Occupation and will be so for years unless they have a mass Uprising against it. I believe it's coming in July.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 05:01 AM
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14. Another one bites the dust
Amazing toll of puppet people, snuffed out.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 05:13 AM
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15. Once legitimacy is lost
Neither the political or physical infrastructure can be protected. Whatever else you think of the Iraqi resistance, this is a powerful lesson.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:17 PM
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21. What legitimacy is there..
to be lost?!
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:17 PM
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22. double post..
Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 09:18 PM by Aidoneus
machine hiccup'd a bit there..
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