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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:39 PM
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Newsweek: Intelligence: The Pentagon—Spying in America?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5197014/site/newsweek/

Last February, two Army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas law school and demanded to see the roster from a conference on Islamic law held a few days earlier. Their reason: they were trying to track down students who the agents claimed had been asking "suspicious" questions. "I felt like I was in 'Law & Order'," said one student after being grilled by one of the agents. The incident provoked a brief campus uproar, and the Army later admitted the agents had exceeded their authority. But if the Pentagon has its way, the Army may not have to make such amends in the future. Without any public hearing or debate, NEWSWEEK has learned, Defense officials recently slipped a provision into a bill before Congress that could vastly expand the Pentagon's ability to gather intelligence inside the United States, including recruiting citizens as informants.

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...new provision, approved in closed session last month by the Senate Intelligence Committee, would eliminate one big restriction: that they comply with the Privacy Act, a Watergate-era law that requires government officials seeking information from a resident to disclose who they are and what they want the information for.

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But watchdog groups see a potentially alarming "mission creep." "This... is giving them the authority to spy on Americans," said Kate Martin, director of the Center for National Security Studies, a group frequently critical of the war on terror. "And it's all been done with no public discussion, in the dark of night."


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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:45 PM
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1. Oh, shit.... oh shit .... oh shit.... n/t
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:05 PM
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7. Don't let them scare YOU!!!...........Stand tall and stare them down!
Their nothing but bully putzes.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:01 PM
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2. Thanks for watching out for us!

John D. Rockefeller, IV
D-West Virginia
Vice Chairman, USSSCI
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:03 PM
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3. We need to be making loud noises about
putting these criminals in prison now! Starting with bu$h, chenney, rummy, etc.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:07 PM
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4. One more nail....
Rather than depending upon the FBI to investigate within the US (and expecting them to share that intelligence with relevant agencies), it seems now that every intelligence agency under the sun is to be given expanded mandate to operate within the US.

With the relaxations in the USA PATRIOT Act for the CIA to operate alongside the FBI within the US, and now including the DIA, what agencies are left that don't have investigative powers over civilians?

And what the hell are "suspicious questions?"
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:32 PM
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5. Wasn't there a similar story about a conference in Iowa
in which case this seems to have happened multiple times? Sounds like more than a "potential" problem if it is cropping up as have occurred events.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 04:51 PM
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6. This is unbelievable
I'm speechless. Shouldn't be, but I am.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 01:40 AM
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8. Important!
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 01:02 PM
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9. kick kick kick
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 01:57 PM
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11. Quite important.
Edited on Mon Jun-14-04 01:58 PM by benfranklin1776
The bill needs to be identified and this provision stripped out before it slides through. Congresspeople need to be made fully aware of the ramifications of this before they vote. Most never read the entire legislation they vote on.

:kick:
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 01:32 PM
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10. OMG!
KICK
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 02:37 PM
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12. I thought conservatives stood for "less" gov't intrusiveness
What does it take to wake conservatives up to the fact that these guys are out of control.
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ItsThePeopleStupid Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-04 05:05 PM
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13. whatever happened to posse comitatus?
Is it so full of holes now that the Army can spy in the US?
kick
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:27 AM
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17. Welcome to DU
:hi:
BHN
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:41 PM
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14. kicking
seems it's coming back up again
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 07:30 PM
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15. back to the front page one last time
:kick:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:17 AM
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16. Kick. Contact your Senators/Representatives and expose this stealth.
n/t
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:29 AM
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18. SUPPORT THE TROOPS
Yah right---Idiots in uniform
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:30 AM
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19. Homeland Security
and the Patriot AXE to our constitutional rights
are ALL about protecting themselves from us.
It's looking more and more like Hitler's Germany folks.
Time to get the fuck out cause the writing is on the wall.
BHN
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