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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:48 AM
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AP breaking news regarding bombing in Fallujah
(snip) U.S. officials have said Jordanian-born terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi may be hiding in the city. Al-Zarqawi has been blamed for the string of car bombs across Iraq, including the Thursday that killed 35 people and wounded 145 at an Iraqi military recruiting center in Baghdad.

<http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040619_335.html>
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:58 AM
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1. He sure gets around
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:59 AM
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2. Kill 'em all, let GAWD sort 'em out...
what fucking bullshit. How many more straw scapegoats is the * administration going to construct before the American people get wise to the incredible deceit and waste of lives.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:49 AM
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9. I'm at that point with my frustration too Miki
Especially after another beheading of an American. Also, our troops who are there ONLY fulfilling their promise to their Country. However, the government of THEIR country is not sticking to their promise to the soldiers. They cannot even go home when they were suppose to, PLUS, they are told they have to stay a year longer than their government agreed too.

I think if anymore Americans are kidnapped, that Bush and his boyz need to promise these animals (the terrorist murderers not the people of Iraq so please don't delete this).

"If anymore Americans are kidnapped, and the kidnappers have demands for releasing certain people, the people that they want us to release will be immediately killed due to THEIR crime of kidnapping another innocent human being . . . not just Americans." (should have stated that earlier).

Would this be wrong? I know "America" does not do such things and, ummmmm, we don't torture either, so this might be the way to handle kidnappings. Of course, if they do it to get the Americans out of Iraq then they will be committing another murder . . .I mean slaughter.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:10 PM
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11. It would never work
Spiral of violence and all that. It was tried in Ireland, Israel/Palestine, etc.

It would also amount to punishing someone for a crime they didn't commit.

There are just so many reasons this is a bad idea.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:11 AM
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3. There might be two non-government citizens...
... in the US who could identify al-Zarqawi, so I doubt this will cause immense upset internationally.

al-Zarqawi is the new Emmanuel Goldstein in this latest version of Orwell's 1984, with Osama bin Laden the most previous incarnation of the all-purpose evil character.

"U.S. officials" be damned. None of these reports can be trusted any longer.

We are in the midst of not a war on terror, but, rather, a propaganda war for power in this country.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:18 AM
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4. So, this al-Zarqawi character will be the excuse for mass murder,...
,...dropping more bombs, further destroying the city,...genocide,...

*sick*
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:29 AM
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5. edit to point to original thread posted at 6:22 am
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 08:37 AM by UpInArms
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:45 AM
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6. shrubco are professional liars
it seems at this point , so even if some of there shit is real how could one believe it? If it wasn't so sad it would be amusing. Really crooked people who probably don't see what the big deal is about deception.
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quagmire_iraq Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:52 AM
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7. US Missiles Kills at least 3 Women and 5 Children and dozens of Rescuers i
"The number of casualties is so high because after the first missile we jumped to rescue the victims," said Wissam Ali Hamad. "The second missile killed those trying to carry out the rescue."

"They brought us 22 corpses, children, women and youth," said cemetery worker Ahmed Hassan.


A U.S. plane fired missiles at a house in the restive Iraqi city of Falluja on June 19, 2004, killing 22 Iraqis, witnesses and hospital officials said. They said the victims were crushed under the rubble after two missile strikes demolished the house. (Reuters Graphic)


Residents of a Fallujah, Iraq neighborhood comb through the wreckage of their homes which were destroyed in a U.S. airstrike Saturday June 19, 2004. A U.S. military plane fired missiles killing at least 20 and leveling houses in the restive Sunni Muslim city of Fallujah, police and residents said. The U.S. military declined comment. (AP Photo/Abdul-Kadr Saadi)


Residents of a Fallujah, Iraq neighborhood walk through the wreckage of their homes which were destroyed in a U.S. airstrike Saturday June 19, 2004. A U.S. military plane fired missiles killing at least 20 and leveling houses in the restive Sunni Muslim city of Fallujah, police and residents said. The U.S. military declined comment. (AP Photo/Abdul-Kadr Saadi)


Residents of a Fallujah, Iraq neighborhood walk through the wreckage of their homes which were destroyed in a U.S. airstrike Saturday June 19, 2004. A U.S. military plane fired missiles killing at least 20 and leveling houses in the restive Sunni Muslim city of Fallujah, police and residents said. The U.S. military declined comment. (AP Photo/Abdul-Kadr Saadi)


A residents of a Fallujah, Iraq neighborhood sifts through the wreckage of his home which were destroyed in a U.S. airstrike Saturday June 19, 2004. A U.S. military plane fired missiles killing at least 20 and leveling houses in the restive Sunni Muslim city of Fallujah, police and residents said. The U.S. military declined comment. (AP Photo/Abdul-Kadr Saadi)

Outraged residents accused the Americans of trying to inflict maximum damaged by firing two strikes — one first to attack and another to kill the rescuers.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:33 AM
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8. More 'shock and awe' from the clowns who dropped 50 bombs at the
beginning of the war and only managed to murder innocent civilians. This isn't about Al What's-His-Name, this is about killing and scaring people who have ideas and aims that run counter to the official occupation standards of behavior and submission.

We will pay dearly for this. If these photos are on the web, they are being viewed by people who will ensure that along with the destruction of the city and the murder of it's inhabitants, the American (or Coalition, whatever) body count will increase as well.

I would like to congratulate the new Iraqi government. They have set a new standard for appeasement, not unlike the Vichy government did in France during WWII. The Coalition-led government will not survive if they allow destruction like this. (Personally I don't think it will survive anyway, but that's just me.)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:14 PM
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12. Isn't this a "terrorist" tactic
One bomb to kill a certain number of people, and get the first responders on the scene, then another to get the first responders - ambulance, fire personnel, police, EMTs, etc.

Kind of reminiscent of the WTC attacks, too.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:04 PM
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10. Well now I'm totally bamboozled????
I was watching CNN when Blitzer stated "This just in" and gave the story and said it just came through on the AP once they found out more they would report.

I then went to the AP site and read the report and it stated "35 minutes ago," which probably means since it had been reported not since it happened; however, I came here and thought I would post it because it "according to CNN" just happened. Now I'm really confused??????
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:18 PM
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13. A two fold strategy?
Encourage citizens of Faluja to turn in "insurgents". Show the citizens that their lives are worthless and that the US need not expend troops to subdue the population. Sending in missles also allows the Occupation to keep the city under siege without losing troops.

This smacks of the Warsaw Gheto scenerio.
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quagmire_iraq Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:21 PM
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14. It happened 10 am Baghdad time
which is GMT +4 I think so it is around 2AM US central time..

Everyone should have been asleep by then.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040619/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq







Twenty-two people have been killed and 20 injured in a US raid on a house in Falluja, according to medical sources and witnesses.

The US said it had "significant intelligence" that members of Zarqawi's network were in the targeted house.

The air strike caused "multiple secondary explosions" of ammunition and roadside bomb materials stored there, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt said.

He said there was "significant intelligence" that members of Abu Mussab Zarqawi's network were in the house, but there was no evidence Zarqawi himself was there.

Aljazeera's correspondent in Baghdad, Abd Al-Adhim Muhamad, said several Falluja residents told him by phone that US warplanes had hovered over the city and eventually fired two missiles.
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