Iraqi Militants Reportedly Behead Korean

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20040622...


CAIRO, Egypt - An Iraqi militant group has beheaded its South Korean hostage, the pan-Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera reported Tuesday.

The channel said it had received a video tape saying he has been executed.

[hang a left]

1. noooooooooooooooo

[Uben]

2. Well

They should double the amount of troops they were going to send.

[thebigidea]

19. why not quadruple? Lets really escalate this.

More heartbreak! More tragedy!

[Jacobin]

29. Yeah. Worked GREAT in Vietnam

500,000 plus troops, zillions of bombs and decades of blown up bodies.

We will NEVER EVER win this guerilla war. Its THEIR country and we invaded it illegally. They want us gone and count on this: This WILL run us out, whether it takes a year or ten years.

[saigon68]

64. Oh Ya that worked great in Viet-Nam

I have a T-Shirt that says "We were Winning When I Left"

Great Victory there alright--- NOT

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[NickB79]

77. Newsflash

It IS being repeated as we speak.

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[NickB79]

I see

These are the generals who ordering the bombings of wedding parties and residential neighborhoods on a weekly basis then? The same generals who are responsible for the 500+ civilians killed in Fallujah? The same generals that turned a blind eye to Abu Ghraib? Hell, these generals don't seem to be doing much better than McNamara ever did.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

108. Then what do we have, mr or mrs newcomer?

hmmm?

Oh yeah a pack of criminal liars!

[thecrow]

105. Welcome to DU, Eric! eom

[Media_Lies_Daily]

92. The mistake was repeated the day that FratBoy decided to invade....

...maybe you ought to do a little more research before you make those kinds of statements.

By the way, the death toll to date for less than two years in Iraq is greater than the death toll in more than eight years in Vietnam:

Iraq, less than 2 years, 2003-2004: 846 total

<http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html>

Vietnam, first 8 years, 1956-1964: 401 total
Vietnam, first 9 years, 1956-1965: 2,264 total

<http://www.1stcavmedic.com/statistics.htm>

Scroll down to reach "CACCF Record Counts by Year of Death or Declaration of Death (as of 12/98)"

[leftchick]

35. more is better....

yep... :eyes:

[Bandit]

52. Then we could really learn the meaning of the word torture

:shrug: The Koreans are expert on the subject.

[chenGOD]

115. What is this supposed to mean?

eom

[Bandit]

118. Koreans are very well known for their "special" treatment of prisoners

When I was in Vietnam the one surefired way to extract information from a NVA or VC was to suggest we would turn them over to the Koreans. Just the thought of that would get them to open up and tell us what we needed. ROKs were very brutal and by far the most feared by NVA and VC.

[Delano]

3. I didn't see any story on CNN

And I don't visit Al-Jazeera. I don't need A$$KKKroft looking at me any more than he already does...

[Cush]

7. CNN has it now

[Barrett808]

4. F*ck.

Thanks, George.

[Mike Daniels]

14. Sure, give the killers another pass on their blame

It's not like they ultimately didn't pull the trigger or directly cause the victim's death.

[Barrett808]

30. True enough, but under occupation...

...the occupying nation is legally responsible. That man would almost certainly be alive today if not for Bush's illegal invasion.

[forgethell]

48. Legally responsible for what?

A murder committed by those it is fighting against? I don't think so, but if it is then I'll quote Dickens, "The law is an ass".

[Barrett808]

56. For public order.

This is one of the many reasons you don't prosecute illegal wars of aggression.

[forgethell]

72. That doesn't mean

that it will be 100% perfect. We have murders, just as gruesome, in the United States, where the "occupation" has been going on a lot longer. So what exactly do you mean? The case for or against the occupation has to be made on its own merits, not the fact that the occupiers have not established perfect safety.

[Barrett808]

91. The State is responsible for the predictable outcome of its actions

Just as an individual is responsible. This kind of savagery was predicted by intelligence agencies and millions of protesters, but it was disregarded by the delusional war criminal currently occupying the White House.

Yes, the militants are responsible for murder. And the Bush is responsible for creating the utter chaos in which the murderers operate. Both should be tried for their respective crimes.

[forgethell]

107. Well, I can't argue

with that kind of logic. Of course * is responsiblefor all the evil in the world.

Cheers

[wtmusic]

57. Murder should be banned during wartime!

War is war, and murder is murder. Big difference.

Y'see, during a war of occupation, defenders try to kill the occupiers. With this murder here, er, nevermind.

[forgethell]

74. Did you have a point? n/t

[Media_Lies_Daily]

34. Nobody I know is giving the actual killers a pass, but are you denying...

...that the ultimate responsibility for the entire mess in the Middle East lies squarely with FratBoy and the rest of the NeoCons?

If we hadn't invaded would ANY of these beheadings have taken place? How many of our 830+ dead soldiers would still be alive today? How many tens of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians would also be alive today?

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[JackDragna]

73. Evidence, please?

Apparently you've bought the Republican delusion that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. But hey, all Arabs conspire together in these things, right?

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[NickB79]

80. And nowhere did you mention Iraq

But this beheading took place in Iraq. It seems your evidence also indicates that our invasion of Iraq brought AQ terrorists INTO Iraq in order to attack us. Wonderful.

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[JackDragna]

87. Two logical fallacies in your argument there..

1. The previous poster never said Al Qaeda had nothing to do with Iraq now. You're building a huge strawman. At any rate, it's still quite unproven that Al Qaeda had anything to do with Hussein's government, making your accusations spurious.

2. Your argument also is a non sequitir, in that it does not follow from Al Qaeda being in the country that they had anything to do with the previous government. They interfere because our forces and the occupational governments are targets of opportunity, not because they're part of some Hussenist cabal. Give me a break.

[NickB79]

89. Because disrupting Iraqi control makes the US look bad

And it allows them to get more Americans killed in the battles. They don't have to give a damn about what happens to Iraq, as long as they can get more Americans killed.

And tell me again when this turnover takes place? It certainly isn't June 30, because it has already been reported our troops are staying put for another year or more, and our military commanders there will have the final say in whatever the Iraqi government wants. The June 30 turnover is nothing more than PR.

[frylock]

95. al qaeda was in san diego too..

would you support some shock and awe action for San Diegans?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

96. Ahh....I see what your problem is...

...you ACTUALLY believe what the NeoCons are telling us!

Why would you believe anything they're telling us now when so much of what they've told us previously are outright lies?

Ever think that the Iraqis themselves are fighting to liberate their country from our illegal and immoral stranglehold?

[JackDragna]

81. Uh, we're talking about Iraq here..

..you responded to a post about Iraq. You said sarcastically we should leave "them" alone, meaning the Iraqis. Don't play your semantic games with me: you're trying rhetorical tricks to tie Al Qaeda to Iraq and Iraq to 9/11. So, please, answer my question: where's the evidence Iraq had anything to do with 9/11?

[frylock]

97. i'm still waiting for conclusive evidence that a-q was responsible for 911

I mean there is conjecture and heresay, and those are TYPES of evidence, according to Lionel Hutz, Esq.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

99. I'm still waiting for the day that they positively identify the hijackers.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

94. Where is your evidence? Just because we're being told by our...

...fearless NeoCon chickenhawk leaders that "Al Qaeda did it" doesn't make it so, does it?

No, you've produced nothing that looks like evidence to me.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

93. Do you have any evidence, other than what the NeoCons have been...

...telling us, that anybody in Iraq is planning, or has previously planned, a 911-scale attack on the U. S.?

Do you have any proof that Iraq and Al Qaeda are currently connected, or have been previously connected in any way?

You do realize that NONE of the hijackers were Iraqi, don't you? Did you also realize that NONE of the hijackers were Afghan?

[DrWeird]

5. I wonder how the South Koreans are going to feel about this.

I wouldn't want to be in Seoul right now.

[LittleApple81]

9. Koreans are not saints. I remember a guy I know who was in South

Korea and had contact with South Korean soldiers... they are mean. And South Korea is probably going to be more determined to send the soldiers to Iraq... which is not good because if they want to kill "towelheads" it is going to make the situation worse for everybody concerned.

[DrWeird]

16. Really?

It was my understanding that antiamerican sentiment was on the rise in South Korea, so I wouldn't think they'd be rushing off to do our dirty work.

[LittleApple81]

51. It is funny how nationalism can obscure reason... look at the USA

going into Iraq. I agree, South Koreans, especially younger people who don't remember the Korean war, are not pro-American by any means. But if they kill one of their own, reactions are unpredictable.

The Japanese blamed their hostages...because they were peace volunteers. That was such a weird reaction, from my point of view.

[saigon68]

20. Osoma wants the Koreans to Kill Iraqi "Rag Heads"

That is how these wars of religion go. Revenge killings-- sooner or later you have northern ireland

[NNN0LHI]

24. Funny how everything good for Osama is ultimately also good for Bush?

Coincidence I guess?

Don

[chenGOD]

116. And what was the context of his contact with these "mean" South Korean

soldiers? The majority of South Korean troops are young men who are serving their mandatory military service. They are simply in the military because they have to be.

Nice generalization. Was this "guy' perhaps an American soldier? Do you think he might have said something derogatory or inflammatory to these means Koreans?

My experiences in 7 years here in Seoul have led me to see that I would much rather spend time with the South Korean military than ANY of the US soldiers stationed here.

[k in IA]

12. Well, if the story about the U.S. not telling them that this guy had been

taken hostage until after they agreed to send 3,000 new troops is correct, I don't think they will be feeling particularly generous toward *.

[maddezmom]

6. yahoo link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20040622/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_korean_hostage

[Eurobabe]

8. why are they giving these assholes FREE PR???

this is just perpetuating these acts! the media is just as much to blame in all of this, maybe they could start a reality show? behading of the week, here!! live!!

[Rose Siding]

22. If it were happening, and the govt/media didn't tell us

wouldn't that be the worst kind of censorship? Since it's happening in a war zone in which we are involved and considering the whole 'self rule' thingy (degraded though it may be), aren't we obligated to be aware of just this kind of thing? It would be a lousy secret to keep from us.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

39. Would you rather be watching "Blasted Wedding Party of the Week"??

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[Media_Lies_Daily]

98. Shut down CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, NBC, and CBS while you're at it.

[Mike Daniels]

10. Well I guess it's SK's fault that he's dead

because it's never right to point the finger of blame at the terrorists when they kill a hostage.

(sarcasm).

[DrWeird]

18. Pretty much.

They never should have been there in the first place.

[Mike Daniels]

So are the killers to blame in any way, shape or form or not?

Honest, I've never seen a group like some people here so willing to absolve people who kill unarmed, bound and gagged prisoners.

[DrWeird]

26. "people who kill unarmed, bound and gagged prisoners"

So, do you "support the troops?"

[Cheswick2.0]

60. oh please stop twisting people's posts

stop with the more liberal than thou shit. You don't even have the guts to come out and say what you think or mean. You just keep making cryptic remarks.

[pnb]

61. And that has to do with what?

If I remember correctly, we were talking about a beheading on this thread. Your attempt at moral relativism doesn't change what happened, or the viciousness of it, at all.

[DrWeird]

79. I'm the one guilty of moral relativism?

Isn't moral relativism were you say it's horrible when the terrorists kill bound and gagged prisoners, but look the other way when US troops do it?

[pnb]

117. Did I say that?

Once again, you ignore the point by bringing up something else. Thank you for helping me make my point though.

[Magleetis]

33. What is the difference between

beheading bound hostages and blowing civilians to bits from 30k ft. In my mind there is no difference. They are no better or worse than we are. We kill and they kill and the cycle continues. It is war after all and we started it.

[wtmusic]

41. There is a big difference

And that's why they behead them, instead of shooting them. Big shock value. Works every time.

[Magleetis]

46. I am more appalled

by the pics of children with their arms blown off than I am by the beheading of an adult person who chose to go to Iraq.

[wtmusic]

50. Me too--but dismembered kid pics might imply American culpability

so you don't see very damn many of them.

[frylock]

100. shock and awe..

Big shock value. Works every time.

[saigon68]

43. Hey mike would you absolve this?

[ElectroPrincess]

45. No one's absolving them ... however,

the Bush Administration has turned this occupation into a perceived "holy war" ... his bravado and religious right leaders (General Boinkin, Ashcroft, etc.) have played into the terrorist's propaganda to the masses of disenfranchised and poverty stricken Arabs.

Most people throughout the world see our actions as a cross between The Crusades and extemporaneous Empire Building. WE are the Occupiers, THEY are the Nationalists. Like I mentioned before, four miles away from my school in Singapore, 1964, what many Americans would now term "terrorists" lopped-off the heads (beheaded) four teachers. This beheading tactic is far from new.

It's all part of the ongoing "horror show of war." The point that needs to be addressed, "Why are they doing this?" Because they want our crusading asses out of the middle east. I personally have not problem with that ... we've sacrificed enough of our precious young people on a lie. We must plan a peaceful withdrawl out of Iraq as soon as is practical.

[saigon68]

54. Good analysis EP

Unfortunately this is a "Crusade" and it going to get a lot BIGGER

[forgethell]

49. So you feel the

"freedom fighters, resistance movement" was justified in this?

x(

[DrWeird]

85. Not at all.

I'm just not going to shed any crocidile tears.

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[wtmusic]

27. Damn straight--SK is entitled to a piece of the Iraq pie

as a member of the coalition*.

*Warning: coalition involvement may entail civilian beheadings and other risks--contact KBR for details.

</sarcasm>

[bluedog]

11. Its time

for all countries to pull all civilians out.....contractors.......doctors......ministries.bankers.....just leave the military there......bunker them down and let the chips fall where they may.we know the "coalition" will not pull out.....they are in for the lond bloody haul.
no matter how many may die......Get the innocents or the business side out.....

[Aidoneus]

86. this man and similar are no "innocents", think about what they do

He was working with a war profiteering corp supplying the US military in the Fallujah area. I shouldn't need to describe the horrors of what the US military has done in Fallujah, and what this man's peers and similar outfits have helped along. Yet somehow, these far greater crimes and massacres that this man has very likely aided and abetted are overlooked in his eulogy.

Not that I am a fan of beheading, mind you.

On the side, not quite sure why I picked this one to reply with this to..

[Cheswick2.0]

13. Where was it, in Iraq or Saudi Arabia?

I think these people are going to keep it up until we nuke them. They are only convincing everyone that they are in-human.

[maddezmom]

17. this was in Iraq n/t

[DrWeird]

21. Have they convinced you...

that they're inhuman?

[Cheswick2.0]

25. the people who actually did this..... yes they have convinced me

they may be human, but they are determined to act otherwise.

[Mike Daniels]

28. I'd say murdering an unarmed, bound and gagged prisoner...

is pretty damn close to being as inhuman as you can get.

Under those circumstances I don't see any difference between these killers and the soldiers who abused the prisoners.

[DrWeird]

38. So, do you want to hunt down the troops and execute them?

Like one person wrote, will they "keep it up until we nuke (Americans)?" like somebody else said.

[saigon68]

44. They are killing to defend their country

Like this woman and her merry band of THUG murderers

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/10/iraq/main616584.shtml

(CBS/AP) A 26-year-old Army reservist charged with taking part in the abuse of Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghrain prison – and with snapping some of the notorious photographs – grew up around gruesome crime-scene pictures, her family says.

Spc. Sabrina Harman of Alexandria, Va., is the daughter of a homicide detective who often brought crime scene photographs home for the family to "profile."

"She's been looking at autopsies and crime-scene pictures since she was a kid," her mother, Robin Harman, told The Washington Post.

[Cheswick2.0]

62. They are beheading people to defend their country?

Bullshit. Beheading a captive is not defending their country anymore than torture of Iraqis is defending ours.

[saigon68]

68. Lets debate reasonably

Perhaps since the geneva convention does not apply to shrubby THE CHIMPANZEE---- that anything goes.

Beheading is an old custom in the middle east the saudis do it to women who commit adultery

according to the chimpanzee there are no rules for captives-- you can beat them to death

In fact dead is dead whether burned like the mercenaries in fallujah or kicked to death by the mercenaries at abu ghraib

see below

[ElectroPrincess]

84. Dead is Dead ...

The beheading part is for hype ... it's no less of a crime to hit a family of homes with an artillery or gunship strike ... then watch them "rain all night" and "rain all day". The aftermath of the beheading at least leaves two intact body parts for the family members to be afforded complete burial of the remains.

There's no need to "freak-out" over a particular method of killing and/or execution. Why? Because murder is murder. As far as recovery of the the remains, beheading is much preferrable recovery material than having to get out the squeegees and tweezers required to mop up remains into a body bag subsequent to an artillery barrage.

My father told me that the biggest fear during WWII was the sound of incoming artillery. If I had to die, I'd much rather be beheaded than blown into a thousand pieces by ARTY, OR gut-shot and left for dead. ==> the forgoing is sincere.

[leftynyc]

67. You say they are killing to defend their country but

that would only be true if the killers are Iraqi's. Do you know that as a fact?

[saigon68]

70. of course I don't

That's not the issue

[ElectroPrincess]

31. Rest in Peace Dear Man

I try not to stereotype. However, listening to that poor, desperate hostage from South Korea pulled at my heart strings. I wonder how myself and other Americans would have felt, had it been one of our young soldiers or civilians pleading for their life within a video?

It was horrid ... but that's also why people use terrorism to scare the masses - and it works. Countering terrorism with outrage and "targeted bombings" of so-called safe houses only plays into their agenda. Retaliation only serves to recruit more disenfranchised young men to join the ranks of our enemy. Unfortunately, our best buddy in the ME, Israel, is having a very difficult time acknowledging this harsh reality, i.e., you can't kill them all.

There's no easy or simplistic solution to counter terrorism in Iraq. It requires an ongoing "outreach" to the poor, community service, and getting young Iraqi men back to work supporting their families. A good first step is to stop shipping in labor from third world countries. That action is no less than insane.

[ElectroPrincess]

55. Not everyone ... this is too familiar - marginalizing the enemy during war

"They are only convincing everyone that they are in-human." Nope, only the USA cable media presents such a "show." Read the WP fully, or the NYT. Further for Audio or Cable TV, try the BBC or NWI channels. The rest of the world is siding with Gore Vidal = "The USA has gone insane."

During every conflict, Americans have taken great pains to characterize the enemy as "inhuman." Ya know, it's so much easier to kill THEM that way, because they deserved killing.

"You know fellow Americans, the Iraqi people are just like Rush said, backward and savage. All of them! Yes, let's nuke Iraqi back into the stone age." <sound familiar?>

[Cheswick2.0]

63. nope

someone who beheads a captive is convincing people that they (the people who did it) are less than human.

[daleo]

90. Less than humane

But unfortunately, not unusual behavior in human history, so certainly not less than human.

[frylock]

101. some people just don't have the cash on hand required to behead someone..

from a gunship with a 50 cal.

[Dardi]

103. Well said

n/t

[salin]

15. Tie this to earlier story - SKorea believes US held back info about the

hostage taken - due to a pending decision of S Korea to send more troops to Iraq. True, or not, if that is the S Korean perception - how will that play with public sentiment in that part of the world.

[bluestateguy]

23. Hunt down these killers and execute them

Get the specific people responsible for this atrocity. Bombing entire villages to rubble, or increased mistreatment Iraqi prisoners of war will not bring justice to the killers, and it will only worsen the situation by further embittering the Iraqi people.

[NNN0LHI]

32. Its futile

Where are you going to start hunting? Who's door are you going to kick in first? How many new enemies is it worth creating to avenge this guy who knew he was where he should not have been? How many Iraqi women must be raped to get the men to talk this time? Why do I have to keep saying this?

Don

[wtmusic]

40. Yep

Interesting that beheadings spark this interest in justice. Kalishnikovs are apparently a more humane way to kill people.

[Cheswick2.0]

59. Well yes there is something more humane about killing a person in battle

as opposed to beheading someone you picked up off the street, who spent days in fear of what was going to happen to him.

[NNN0LHI]

104. Please explain to me how it is more humane...

...to drop bombs from planes on children as they sleep than it was kill this S. Korean man who made a conscious decision to enter into a war zone for financial gain. I don't see it.

Don

[saigon68]

106. Hard to argue with all the straw men here

Nice attempt Don, there are some people here, who just don't get it.

Worse than a decapitation in my estimation is a corpse that has been out in 90 degree heat with 90% humidity for a couple of weeks and maggots crawling out of the bloated discolored mouth and eye sockets.

But then again its just easier to flame away at those of us like you and me

saigon--

[Barrett808]

37. That's what Negroponte's death squads will be for n/t

[frylock]

102. ohhhhhhhhhhh snap!!

nice one!

[minkyboodle]

36. Disgusting

another senseless death among thousands in the colossal mistake that is the Iraq War. On a bonus note I made the mistake of flipping to fox news briefly and on "Day Side" they are using this tragedy as an opportunity to campaign for Bush and trash Kerry.... not a surprise but sickening regardless.

[Ripley]

42. Is CNN/TimeWarner behind this?

It sure seems like these theatrical events are "Made For Television."

[Tracer]

47. Beheading is not a good way to die.

But being de-armed, de-legged, de-headed by U.S. bombs (see Fallujah 2 days ago) isn't a walk in the park either.

I might add that beheading is a favorite method of punishment in Saudi Arabia. And in Iraq, the lopping off of hands seems to have been popular with Saddam.

[hippywife]

111. The problem is that

in our so called "civilized" society beheading sends the imaginations of people soaring into the horrific as it should. Yet at the same time, the mainstream media and this adminsitration play up the clean, precise way we wage war like a shoot 'em up video game. The hugest portion of Americans aren't confronted with pics like the ones below and others like them so the devastation doesn't click in their minds or set the imaginations to work in quite the same way.

[54anickel]

53. WHAT???? An hour ago it was being reported that they were talking

with clerics and softening their stance.

[daleo]

58. I predict that a house in Fallujah (or a block) will be bombed

in the next day or two. The claim will be that there were "foreign fighters" or some such there, but really it will just be tit for tat.

[Ripley]

66. Tit for tat is spreading...

See other LBN thread about Afghans beheading Taliban guys because Taliban guys had beheaded Afghans.

It's all the rage I guess.

[Magleetis]

112. You were right

but it only took a few hours. I haven't seen any reports on casualties.

[suegeo]

65. Jesus Christ

Is it yet safe to say out loud that Bush is a screw up on an epic, biblical scale? Or would someone label me unpatriotic for saying this?

To you "adults in charge" who are surely reading about what us unwashed peasants are thinking: things are WAYYY out of hand...

[54anickel]

88. Koreans Question Their Role in Iraq

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59795-2004Jun22.html

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"The hostage crisis is putting a lot of pressure ," he said, "because the decision to send troops, here, was very unpopular, and it was really made with a view to keeping on the right side of the US. Korean themselves have no interest in Iraq, no appetite or real experience of getting involved in issues in other countries. And I think they are rather alarmed to suddenly find themselves with the third largest contingent in Iraq."

Right before the kidnapping occurred, 34 members of the ruling Uri rule party, issued a statement harshly critical of the U.S. war effort that warned Washington not to handle the confrontation with North Korea in the same way it treated Iraq -- with "false information."

The statement, said the Korea Times, is "expected to further erode the half-century alliance between Seoul and Washington, which has already shown a visible rift" over U.S. plans to reduce the number of U.S. troops in South Korea by a third by the end of 2005. Korean officials had not expected the reductions until the end of 2007.

Last week, this column found "mainstream anti-Americanism" had arrived in South Korea. The State Department's survey of Korean and Asian press commentary found widespread dismay and recriminations in Korea and Asia over such a "shocking change" in the once-close alliance.

Chief among the perceived dangers: emboldening nuclear North Korea.

more...

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

109. We've all (both sides) degenerated to the level of animals

I don't care if your beheading or cluster bombing.

Both sides are locked in an inhuman slaughter fest.

I don't know what to think. It's like the Israel/Palestinian fight.

All we're going to see is more and more death. I hold both barbaric sides responsible.

FUCKING EVIL

[RebelOne]

110. This really needs to go to the top of the news.

Where is the outrage? This poor man was crying and pleading for his life. I am sick about what happened.

[NoNothin]

113. Numb when beheading becomes commonplace

I am numb from reading this -
but what worries me more is that this will become
commonplace and we will no longer think of it as horrifying
what will the terrorists use to threaten us with then?

[Guaranteed]

114. This is very, very sad. nt

[RetroLounge]

119. Now am I supposed to be outraged again?

more than with Berg? Less than with Johnson? Same all around?

Is this beheading worth more or less than an American's?

I get so confused with the outrage...

Is the right wing just as outraged?

Sheesh. What a cluster fuck bush*ler has us in...

RL