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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:01 AM
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(Jeb) Bush no fan of Moore's movie, Clinton's book
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 06:01 AM by teach1st
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/06/27/State/Bush_no_fan_of_Moore_.shtml

St. Petersburg Times, Published June 27, 2004

Gov. Jeb Bush won't read former President Clinton's new book, and he's not going to see Michael Moore's new movie, Fahrenheit 9/11, either.

The movie, which won praise at the Cannes Film Festival, is an attack against the war in Iraq and the Bush family. The film suggests ties between the Bushes and the Saudi royal family.

"He has the First Amendment right to lie about my brother and his family," the governor said in Key Biscayne on Friday, "and I have a First Amendment right not to pay eight bucks for his stupid movie."

Bush said he did not think TV ads for the movie should be restricted under the new McCain- Feingold federal campaign law. Why not? "It's fiction," Bush said.

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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:05 AM
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1. Well, Gee

if that's the criteria, we'll have to exempt all of the Bush-Cheney ads too.

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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:07 AM
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2. read or watch
i would but say---who is jeb bush---and besides i already have the copy jeb would have bought---plus the bushes do no make it a habit of over reading or watching educational things
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:09 AM
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3. fuck him and his entire trashy ass criminal family
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:15 AM
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4. "The film suggests ties between the Bushes and the Saudi royal family."
Suggests my ass. It's proven fact. No one can despute the connection unless they flat out lie. The troubling part is that they are.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:17 AM
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5. Why can't the stupid POS repuke point out what the lies are...
about his stupid POS brother and his stupid evil POS family?

FU jebidiot.

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:19 AM
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6. "He has the First Amendment right to lie about my brother and his family,"
Since when the Bushies care about the First Amendment?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:39 AM
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8. "My brother and HIS family"???
:wtf:

Is Jebbie trying to distance himself from the Shrub? :shrug:
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:15 AM
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23. His Family?
is that the immediate family or Saudi family?:hi:
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:01 PM
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26. Funnier still - you don't have a right to lie about someone...
You have the right to tell the truth about someone, but a lie is defamation, and can be prosecuted in a civil court. So if the Bushies think Moore is lying, why don't they file?

Could it be they know he's NOT lying?
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:39 AM
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7. Actually, he does NOT have a 1st Amendment right to LIE.
That would be either Slander or Libel or both depending on the medium. Therefore if Michael Moore is LYING, then why is Jeb Bush not SUEING?

The obvious reason being, the defense against such a charge is that you're telling the truth, in which case the prosecution would have no case.

Yet Freepers never ask themselves this question. If Michael Moore is Lying, why has the Bush administration not sued him? Just ask over and over and over, every time you're told he's lying his ass off in the film. Repeat it ad naseum. Repeat it until they have nowhere left to run.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:27 AM
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9. Exactly - good point!
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ronatchig Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:37 AM
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11. Isn't a false accusation
of lying a slander? I would love to see Moore drag this pos into court and claim about 100,000,000.00 in damages. After all a documentatian's greatest asset is his(or her) reputation for accuracy.
This is an attempt to malign Mr. Moore plain and simple, and to reduce his profits.
Sic 'em Mikey Sic 'em.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 09:10 AM
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18. excellent!
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Jen72 Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:36 PM
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25. Interesting point there.....
Jeb Bush says it is ok to lie under the 1st Amendment.
So when his brother lies to the nation, he is exercising his 1st Amendment right, is he?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:10 PM
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27. In the BFEE world, bearing false witness is a right.
Now, tell me,...how f*d up is that? Moreover, they live for the love of money. They are willing to justify mass murder for profit. They condemn the poor, disheartened and oppressed.

If fundie "Christians" are seeking out an anti-christ,...they really need not look very hard.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:30 AM
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10. At least Jeb CAN and DOES read, and he has the attention span
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 07:32 AM by no_hypocrisy
sufficient to watch Fahrenheit 911 if he chooses to do so, as opposed to his dyslexic, dry-drunk, ne'er-do-well, coddled older brother of his.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:47 AM
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14. Who Cares? They're partners in CRIME! They stole the 00 election! nt
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:43 AM
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12. This is surprising.
I was certainly expecting a headline more like this:

"Jeb Bush resigns as Governor to become Michael Moore's groupie. Offers Moore Daily Head"

;-)
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 09:46 AM
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19. Good one! LOL! n/t
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:46 AM
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13. What would U expect from a PNAC member.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:22 AM
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15. Article failed to mention
that "devious-plans" Jebbie also jeered, "Just wait until our Carlyle Group buys Lowes Cineplex Entertainment for STARTERS."
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:35 AM
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16. awww poor jebbie gettin a wittle testy!
we have a saying in my household. when you call someone out on something and they get steamed, it's probably because you've come close to the truth of the situation.

nuff said!
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 09:07 AM
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17. Wrong accent.
jeb is Howdy Doody. Rumsfield is Elmer Fudd.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:38 AM
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20. It tickles me to see Jebthro pout!
Help us out here Jug Jug, give us some troof behind all those lies!

or at lease re-read that pesky ole first amendment. :dunce:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:48 AM
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21. Well, of course he isn't. And if someone were to start looking at his
role in 9-11, it could be quite interesting. Why was Florida under Marshal Law while Chimpy was at Booker school. No explanation for putting Florida under Marshal Law has ever been given.

WHERE did Jebbie fly those records from the Florida flight training schools the alleged hijackers supposedly went to??
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:58 AM
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22. Who cares what any member of the Bush Crime Family says?
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Jen72 Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:33 PM
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24. Why would he watch Fahrenheit 9/11?
Jeb Bush knows full well what happened. And his own family life is far more sordid than a BJ is the oval office too.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:15 PM
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28. What part's fiction, Jebthro?
The part where the White House does all it can to black out the name: James R Bath?



"The reason I didn't tell ya 'bout the $1.4 billion
was that I didn't know it was $1.4 billion.
I thought Poppy said 'trillion.'"
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:17 PM
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29. If the film was a lie and something to be laughed off as ridiculous....,
a person in the public eye like Jeb would have reacted more calmly and dismissively. Jeb is definitely reacting - big time.

'The movie is a lie' is their lying defense. Make them count the lies.

We have another documentary coming out and the lie claim may start all over again if they get mileage out of F911. However, as I remember it, the cabal didn't even try to claim there were lies in the book the new documentary is based on - "The Hunting of the President" by Conason and Lyons, because the authors were careful and are professionals (journalists).
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:19 PM
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30. When's he up for reelction?
Maybe he should get his own doc.
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:27 PM
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31. jeb this.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 01:34 PM by OutlawCorporatePolls
Someone needs to ask ole Jeb what threat he saw before September 7, 2001, that made him revoke Ex Order 17, and add a terrorism provision to Ex Order 261. huh jeb???


EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 01-17 - Jan 2001
http://sun6.dms.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/orders/2001/january/eo2001-17-01-19-01.html

Providing National Guard Support for:

1. natural disasters
2. civil disturbances
3. counterdrug operations

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EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 01-261 - Sept 7, 2001
http://sun6.dms.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/orders/2001/september/eo2001-261-09-07-01.html

Providing National Guard Support for:

1. natural disasters
2. civil disturbances
3. counterdrug operations
4. TERRORISM

"Based on the potential massive damage to life and property that may result from an act of terrorism at a Florida port, the necessity to protect life and property from such acts of terrorism"


The existing 01-17 was exactly the same as 01-261 aside from the added terrorism provision. hmmmmm...


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=revocation+executive+order+17+florida+jeb+bush&btnG=Google+Search
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:31 PM
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32. Then the reporter was 'sposed to ask: "Which parts were lies?"
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 01:33 PM by Dr Fate
It's called "follow up"- surely that was taught in Journalism School...

Oh that Liberal Media!!

As they say, " the guilty dog barks the loudest"
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