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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:15 AM
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Biggest Task for U.S. General Is Training Iraqis to Fight Iraqis
(to manufacture a civil war, a banana republic, a client state)

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/27/international/middleeast/27ARMY.html?ex=1089303337&ei=1&en=c791b294847ba44c

Biggest Task for U.S. General Is Training Iraqis to Fight Iraqis
By DEXTER FILKINS

Published: June 27, 2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 26

BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 26 — On a recent afternoon in his new office in the heavily fortified Green Zone, Lt. Gen. David H. Petraeus, a celebrated American field commander, sketched his vision for how America's forces might one day extract themselves from this country.

"I know where this ends," said General Petraeus, 51, who earlier this month took control of a vast project to oversee the training of Iraqi security forces. "It ends with the Iraqis in charge of their country. You get as many Iraqis as possible to have a stake in the success of the new Iraq to defeat the insurgency."

Just a few hundred yards from his office, the magnitude of his challenge loomed in the form of Zhuhair Khamis, an Iraqi Civil Defense officer standing guard at the entrance to the American compound.

"I am not ready to fight Iraqis," said Mr. Khamis, a 33-year-old Iraqi Shiite. "I will throw down my weapon, I will throw down my uniform, and I will give back my badge. I will fight foreigners; but I am not ready to fight Iraqis."

General Petraeus, who scored some of the Army's most notable successes in the previous year here, is now charged with perhaps the most ambitious project that will unfold in the year that begins with the restoration of Iraqi sovereignty on Wednesday: rebuilding an Iraqi security force that collapsed during April's uprisings, when Iraqi soldiers quit and ran rather than fight their own people. The insurgency is still boiling: on Saturday, a group led by the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi claimed it had kidnapped three Turks in Iraq and threatened to behead them, and a bomb killed as many as 40 people in Hilla, south of Baghdad
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In a related creation
http://ny-2.live.advance.net/fact/content/?040607fa_fact1
THE MANIPULATOR
by JANE MAYER
Ahmad Chalabi pushed a tainted case for war. Can he survive the occupation?
( a little down the article)
THE WASHINGTON FRONT
(snip)
Brooke, who is a devout Christian, has brought an evangelical ardor to the cause of defeating Saddam. “I do have a religious motivation for doing what I do,” Brooke said. “I see Iraq as our neighbor. And the Bible says, When your neighbor is in a ditch, God means for you to help him.”

After graduating from Duke University, in 1983, Brooke worked briefly for the unsuccessful Georgia senatorial campaign of Hamilton Jordan, who had been Jimmy Carter’s chief of staff. Brooke then became a representative for the beer industry. (“If you want to understand constituent politics, you should try mobilizing opinion against a beer tax,” he said.) But in 1991 he took a public-relations job with an American firm in London called the Rendon Group, which described its specialty as “perception management.” The company had been founded by John Rendon, a former executive director of the Democratic National Committee. It didn’t take long for Brooke to realize that the project he was assigned at Rendon was funded by the C.I.A. Brooke, who at the time was thirty years old, said that he was paid twenty-two thousand dollars a month.

The genesis of Brooke’s assignment was the decision not to unseat Saddam Hussein at the end of the first Gulf War. In May, 1991, President George H. W. Bush signed a covert “lethal finding” that authorized the C.I.A. to spend a hundred million dollars to “create the conditions for removal of Saddam Hussein from power.” Robert Baer, a former C.I.A. officer who was assigned to Iraq at the time, said that the policy was all show, “like an ape beating its chest. No one had any expectation of marching into Baghdad and killing Saddam. It was an impossibility.” Nonetheless, the C.I.A. had received an influx of cash, and it decided to create an external opposition movement to Saddam.

The C.I.A. had been forced to abolish domestic operations after a series of scandals in the nineteen-seventies, and it had folded many of its overseas programs when the Cold War ended. So it outsourced the Iraq project to the Rendon Group. According to Brooke, the company signed a secret contract with the C.I.A. which guaranteed that it would receive a ten-per-cent “management fee” on top of whatever money it spent. The arrangement was an incentive to spend millions. “We tried to burn through forty million dollars a year,” Brooke said. “It was a very nice job.”
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CharlesGroce Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:29 AM
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1. It's hard starting a civil war, I know...
But given that Americans are going to choose a prowar president this November, the American military and CIA have YEARS to figure it out, and undoubtedly will succeed.

There is a lot of money to be made from death and chaos.
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CharlesGroce Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 08:31 AM
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2. That old mouthpiece of American Imperialism, the NYTimes....
You can count of them to continue to justify the killings of Iraqis with lies.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 09:34 AM
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3. Oh yea, this is exactly why I posted this
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 09:35 AM by nolabels
I think the Iraqis will continue be much smarter than the fools in spookland figured them to be. They have out done them many times already, I am no fan of any of these guys with guns and killing on their mind but I do think we owe it to ourselves to find and found a real and honest government, otherwise.......... well you know the rest I think

If they are fool enough to broadcast their intentions, I am fool enough to give my opinion too

btw I did find this story on http://www.antiwar.com/
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:08 AM
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4. Well they got the dictator part right
...I don't know about benevolent.

I think they should publish the general's paper about Vietnam so we can evaluate it.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:09 AM
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5. Wasn't that the alleged reason we needed to go there...because Iraqis
were such a threat to Iraqis?? I'm sure the US is quite capable of fomenting the hate with a little public cash.
Actually, they don't have a hope in hell of creating their little nightmare. The only thing Iraq wants is the invaders out.
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:44 AM
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6. In essence they wish to train and arm Iraqis to kill US soldiers
Well, I guess someone's got to do it.
I suppose there are worse uses for our tax dollars:
like training and arming US soldiers to massacre
the innocent Iraqi people.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:39 PM
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7. Precisely. It's far too late to train "reliable" collaborators
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 12:41 PM by Barrett808
The insurgency has thoroughly infiltrated every aspect of Iraqi life, but especially the police and ICDC. The well is poisoned. Even Negroponte's death squads will be infiltrated.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 02:04 PM
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8. I would have a hard time dicerning if that would be a positive out come
When you state "Negroponte's death squads will be infiltrated" that really sounds creepy :scared:

or in good sense, their evil plans could backfire on them?

Bush appoints a Terrorist as US Ambassador to Iraq
by Michel Chossudovsky

www.globalresearch.ca 24 April 2004

The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO404E.html
(snip)
In a cruel irony, the Bush administration has appointed a bona fide "terrorist" to wage its "war on terrorism" in Iraq.

In the words of Human Rights Watch's executive director Kenneth Roth: "There are serious unanswered questions about his complicity with the atrocities in Honduras and the war in Nicaragua."

But "atrocities" are part of the Bush Administration's agenda in Iraq. Negroponte is "the man for the job". He has as the required skills from his stint in organizing death squadrons in Honduras.

The hidden agenda is to replicate in Iraq, the Central American death squadrons of which Negroponte was one of the main architects.

Negroponte is not being nominated for his diplomatic skills. His mandate does not consist in "peace-keeping" or "peace-making" in liaison with the UN, nor is it concerned with post-war "reconstruction".

His background is CIA. His nomination responds in a very direct way to the current situation, with a mounting resistance movement, which is challenging US military presence throughout Iraq. In other words, his mandate is to mount an effective counterinsurgency, using both overt a covert operations
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