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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:48 PM
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House blocks refunds in Enron case
House blocks refunds in Enron case
After heated debate, documents to be unsealed

By CHARLES POPE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT

WASHINGTON -- The House, after a blistering face-off in which Democrats accused the White House of coddling Enron Corp., yesterday refused to order refunds for millions of Western consumers who were victimized by an artificial energy crisis in 2000 and 2001.

Republicans refused to allow the measure to come to a vote, insisting that Democrats were only attempting to embarrass President Bush and Republicans for their once-close ties to Enron. Moreover, they said that the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is working hard to build a case against Enron and that Democrats should allow the agency to complete its mission.

"This isn't a witch hunt, it shouldn't be a witch hunt," Rep. Doug Ose, R-Calif., said. "Come over here and help us find solutions. We cannot sit here flailing away at past history."

Democrats, however, maintained that the ties between Enron and the Bush administration are directly related to what they consider a lax approach from regulators to repair the damage caused by Enron's actions.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/179636_enron26.html
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:51 PM
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1. I Can't Think Of A Faster Way To Lose An Election
Than having elected officals screw the public in the face of overwhelming evidence like the Enron tapes.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:42 PM
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10. If any democrat had done even one percent of this kind of crap
we all know what would have happened.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:50 PM
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13. Buy airtime. Play the tapes.
While playing the tapes, show amounts of Enron contributions to Republicans.

Then quote the Republican congressmen on how the people of California should wait. And this is just politics.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:53 PM
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2. This Enron crap WILL pull the Republicans' house down,...
,...because their conservative "base" has no tolerance for those who screw little ole' ladies out of basic needs.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:18 PM
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7. Wanna make a bet.. you really need to meet their "base." The only
people their base has no tolerance for is gays, and sometimes poor people and blacks.
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zanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:22 PM
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8. I think you're right, Prodemsouth.
If they're not upset about Republicans in Congress trying to eliminate overtime pay, there's nothing that will turn them against their "leadership".
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:46 PM
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11. You Forget
"Business Amerika" who profits from a few thou dropped here and there.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:23 PM
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9. We ARE Going to use those tapes in our Ads, Aren't We??
When they hand you something like this on a silver platter
you USE IT!

The Rethugs are defending the indefensible.

We need to remind people just what/who they are defending.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:54 PM
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3. Paraphrase: "Never Look Back?" LOL. nt
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:56 PM
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4. How 'bout a downpayment on what they know Enron will owe? Why should
western consumers have to wait for a refund? Enron didn't wait to rip them off.

Time value of money. Pay now, or pay more with interest later.
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:57 PM
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5. What the heck is mr. Ose smoking?
"Come over here and help us find solutions. We cannot sit here flailing away at past history."

Well, for one, having the ripped off states having to pay a refund to Enron sure isn't a decent solution.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:15 PM
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6. doug ose
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 07:17 PM by seekthetruth
is my congressman as the result of heavy heavy gerrymandering...and i say, GO FUCK YOURSELF, OSE!!! a a representative of the sacramento region, he should be ashamed of himself...fucking repugs! :grr:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:52 PM
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14. The Gropenator
Instead of groping shrub's ass he should be demanding thatEnron pay the money they stole from CA back and a levy a heavy fine for doing so.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:47 PM
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15. THANK YOU!
n/t
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:48 PM
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12. "Flailing away at past history"
Gee, that seemed to be reason enough to spend $80 million investigating a limited partnership investment that went sour.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:53 AM
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16. Our side needs to get
loud about the blatant excesses of the corporate theocrats in the House. Outrages like this should NOT be buried or ignored, they need to be shouted from the rooftops.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 07:09 AM
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17. Fuck you Rep. Doug Ose! for aiding and abetting thieves!
"Come over here and help us find solutions. We cannot sit here flailing away at past history."

Ok, so CEOs can rip off people and get away with it? Why? Because it is "History?"

"This isn't a witch hunt, it shouldn't be a witch hunt."

There will be one soon you bastard!

If we get pissed and demand an accounting it's called a witch hunt? Fuck you Rep. Doug Ose! You are an "evil cannibal-witch," and it's time to do some witch hunting!
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