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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:38 PM
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U.S.-Led Forces Would Back Martial Law, Bush Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/28/international/europe/28CND-NATO.html

U.S.-Led Forces Would Back Martial Law, Bush Says
By SUSAN SACHS Published: June 28, 2004


ISTANBUL, June 28 — President Bush said today that coalition forces in Iraq would support a possible decision by the new Iraqi leadership to declare martial law to deal with escalating violence and terror attacks.

"Iraqis know what we know, that the best way to defend yourself is to go on the offensive," he said, speaking at a news conference with Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain.<snip>

Iraq's new prime minister, Iyad Allawi, and other Iraqi leaders have said they are considering stringent measures, including the imposition of martial law, to establish a modicum of order in Iraq and gain credibility with the Iraqi public, whose main complaint during the 14-month occupation has been a lack of security.<snip>

(Bush).. went on to praise Mr. Allawi and the interim Iraqi president, Ghazi al Yawar, as strong leaders who had shown that they were ready for independence.<snip>

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:40 PM
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1. martial law -- let freedom reign!
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 08:34 PM
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14. Let Freedom Rain... down bombs on your head!
What a monumental joke this handover of "Sovereignty" is. As if now that they have an handpicked Iraqi president, American soldiers are going to stop dying and terrorism is going to stop occurring. What kind of wierd fantasy-world do these people live in?
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:40 PM
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2. Practice run for the ol' USofA?
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 10:33 PM
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17. Could be a practice run for here
but wouldn't he have to bring the troops home first?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:40 PM
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3. Did someone change the definition of "freedom" while I wasn't looking?
Jeez....
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:41 PM
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4. Hey dumbass! If they were ready for independence, then....
...martial law wouldn't be necessary.

Nor would our troops still need to be in Iraq.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:45 PM
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5. Good idea, because nothing says "freedom"...
quite like some guy in a flack jacket telling you to kiss your face to the fucking tank and spread those legs wide!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:45 PM
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6. Here comes the handover of "collateral damage"!
Children will still die, but bush* will pin the tail on his donkey Allawi...
"Iraqis know what we know, that the best way to defend yourself is to go on the offensive," he said, speaking at a news conference with Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:46 PM
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7. Bush has a very strange idea of democracy,
which encompasses the military coup of Pakistan...
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:48 PM
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8. declaring martial law
is an offensive action? I fail 2 understand that.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:59 PM
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9. I'm offended.
I'm sure the people of Iraq feel the same.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:09 PM
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10. Its been under Martial Law since "we" Invaded
and the handover is a farce ....
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 09:13 PM
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16. Exactly!!!
There isn't much of a difference between military occupation and martial law.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:12 PM
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11. Three cheers for military dictatorship!! Hip-hip.....
Geez, when are these ingrates going to finally start throwing flowers at us instead of grenades.

We closed down Saddam's rape rooms and opened our own, kinder, gentler rape and humiliation rooms, where only a few people were killed. We kicked Saddam out of his palaces and took them for ourselves. And we got rid of a dictator and replaced him with a new dictator.

What the hell else do these people want from us? How many more of them will we have to kill before they finally start to love us?
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 03:16 PM
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12. Football analogy
Imagine you are on defense. If the best way to play defense is to go on the offensive, as * says, you would never wait for the team on offense to snap the ball, thus destroying the basic structure of the game by ignoring the most basic of rules.

This is exactly what the * administration has done with international law. It has ignored the rules. And it has destroyed the framework of the post-WW II international order.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 07:03 PM
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13. There or Here?
That was my first question.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 08:36 PM
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15. And the other shoe drops
Is that an offer, Mr. Bush, or a demand?

They get increasingly transparent, don't they?
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