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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:29 AM
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U.N. Nuke Expert: Iran Plans Not a Danger
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/1088522437

U.N. Nuke Expert: Iran Plans Not a Danger

June 29, 2004 11:20 a.m. EST

By IRINA TITOVA, Associated Press Writer

NOVO-OGARYOVO, Russia - The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency said Tuesday that a nuclear power station being built with Russian help in Iran should not cause international concern.

Mohamed ElBaradei, director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency told reporters the Bushehr plant wasn't even discussed during his meeting Tuesday with President Vladimir Putin.

"Bushehr is not currently in the center of international concern because it's a project to produce nuclear energy, and it has the agreement to send the fuel back to Russia," ElBaradei said, adding that "it's a bilateral project between Iran and the Russian Federation."

Russia is finishing up work on the $800 million reactor in southern Iran. The plant has drawn years of protests from the United States, which fears that it can be used to help Iran build nuclear weapons. Iran insists it is only for peaceful energy needs.

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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:50 AM
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1. i dunno. we invaded iraq over "aluminum tubes"
it's all in the fucking spin, isn't it. if the bush admin agrees that iran's nuke program isn't a serious threat, probably enough to justify an invasion of iran, they will be WILDLY inconsistent with previous positions. the mother of all flip-flops.

to be consistent, we need to invade iran immediately.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:53 AM
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2. Is this the same UN that hyperventilates over Israeli nukes?
The UN ain't nuthin' but shit.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 02:13 PM
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5. Hyperventilating?

Iran threat not a concern yet
The head of the UN nuclear agency says a planned nuclear plant in Iran is not at the centre of international concern for the time being.
<snip>
Meanwhile, ElBaradei, who is heading to Israel next month, has said that Israel should seriously consider talks about making the Middle East a nuclear-weapons free zone, whether or not it admits having such arms.
<snip>
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1549967,00.html


All very balanced and responsible, IMHO.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 02:59 AM
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13. yeah yeah yeah
:eyes:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:10 AM
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14. Beatles fan?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 01:50 PM
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15. yuck
Pig Destroyer works for me :)
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:55 AM
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3. I have mixed emotions about nukes these days.
The US, Russia, France, Israel, Pakistan, India, China, and others already have nukes. Would I be happier if they didn't exist? Yes, of course.

But what the heck right does the US have to prevent other countries from obtaining nukes? Nukes are CLEARLY a deterrent to attack. No nuclear armed country has ever been attacked by the armed forces of another country. The reason we invaded Iraq when we did was because Saddam clearly did NOT have nukes, so we wanted to get him before he obtained them.

If the US has the right to prevent nukes from being built by any country in the world, what other weapons will we be allowed to prevent falling into 'the wrong hands'? Can we invade Syria for buying a MIG? Can we attack Egypt if they buy surface to air missiles?
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cspiguy Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:58 AM
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4. ElBaradei, I swear, By God, There is no danger, My Friends!
sounds like Baghdad Bob.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 02:21 PM
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6. He didn't really say that, did he? Or do you have a link?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 04:03 PM
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11. Iran To Resume Building Nuclear Centrifuges
The head of the United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency on 27 June urged Iran to abandon its decision to build centrifuges as part of its nuclear program. Iran announced in a letter last week that it will resume building centrifuges as of tomorrow, but will continue to suspend uranium enrichment. Iran's decision came after a recent IAEA resolution criticized Tehran for not cooperating fully with nuclear inspectors.

Prague, 28 June 2004 (RFE/RL) -- The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the United States, and the European Union have criticized Iran's decision to resume building centrifuges -- an apparatus that can be used to create weapons-grade enriched uranium.
<snip>
http://www.payvand.com/news/04/jun/1184.html
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quagmire_iraq Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 03:48 PM
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7. It is not danger from nukes thats worrying
I have only read this in one place but it should be obvious to anyone who looks deeper into history and all the institutions that came about since WW2, although you can look back to the time to colonization and how the natives were 'kept'. It is quite perplexing that the 'whites' spend so much effort and money in trying to help 'blacks' the blacks just seem to get deeper and deeper.. Maybe the 'whites' should stop helping...

The aim is to prevent anyone 'dark' from developing knowledge and getting ahead. So anything in the world like the UN, IMG ,world bank etc are used to prevent 3rd world countries from developing something radical and usurping the colonial masters 'white' rule. It has been this way for the last 500 years.

The last time the 'whites' did any kind of major development was the Manhattan project. There has been no major project for the last 50 years to develop anything new.. IE a new technology to change the status quo and the US among other 'white' nations have spent an extraordinary amount of money doing it. Although the amounts are nothing compared to what it would take to do another Manhattan project to get to next level... Maybe like a replacement for oil, global warming etc....

Although I have used 'white' 'black' here more as symbols since it is not just Black and White.. There are people black as coal but they are whiter than any 'white'. Collon and Condi comes to mind.

Now a couple of countries have managed to break out of this but not very successfully.. Can you guess which ones? You need a civilization large enough to be self sufficient to do it. They are no where close to developing anything fundamentally different to change the status quo but they got closer than anyone else. Russia although out of the circle is still a fundamentally 'white' country in their thinking and does stand by the 'whites' goals..... Brazil is huge but still lack the 'civilization' aspects... The 2 countries are in Asia and have civilization going back 5000 years... Sorry but Iraq is too small to be self sufficient in every way. :) should be easy to guess now...


Someone quite well known and famous said this... I forget his name now but I was floored when I read it because I have been thinking along similar lines after looking at WHY we could not make a difference.

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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 03:54 PM
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8. China and India, right?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 03:55 PM
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9. ??????????
Was intended to be anything other than racist and incoherent?

You're right, though, no new techonologies have been developed in the past 50 years. It's not like they've invented a worlwide system made of things called "computers" that allow extraordinary amounts of information to be transmitted across the globe instantaneously.

Nope, information techonology has remained stagnant because of white racism.

/sarcasm
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 03:58 PM
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10. Bushehr... interesting name that ....
Hmmmm
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 02:47 AM
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12. kick
:kick:
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