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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:40 PM
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U.S. Struggles With Guantanamo Ruling
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4263324,00.html

U.S. Struggles With Guantanamo Ruling

Wednesday June 30, 2004 10:16 PM


By ANNE GEARAN

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - No one is sure when, where or how, but one day soon defense lawyers will begin filing what could be hundreds of lawsuits seeking the release of foreign-born men held by the United States as potential terrorists.

The Supreme Court ruled this week that federal courts can hear the cases of nearly 600 men from more than 40 countries who are held at the Navy base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The ruling pretty much stopped there, however, leaving it to other courts, the Bush administration and outside lawyers to sort out what happens next.

Practical questions include whether one court or several will hear the cases, whether numerous cases might be bundled together in one suit and even whether federal judges might set up temporary quarters at the Cuban prison camp.

``The Supreme Court didn't give much direction ... but the opinion says that each and every detainee has the right to have the lawfulness of their detention determined by a federal judge,'' said Jeffrey Fogel, a lawyer with the Center for Constitutional Rights.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:45 PM
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1. US struggles with justice.....what a headline ....thanks bush*
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:47 PM
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2. Here's the fun part
They can sue for any kind of unconstitutional mistreatment, such as dogs and waterboarding.

Better keep that lawyer, aWol.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:15 PM
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3. If one is a detainee or a presumptive detainee
...because they have not been adjudicated as anything else by a tribunal how can they justify keeping people in cages in the heat? This is not appropriate treatment for a detainee.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 06:11 AM
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4. because the Attorney General has decreed them all guilty
of charges that have never even been made public until now.

``The Supreme Court accorded to terrorists, in a variety of cases this week, a number of additional rights,'' Attorney General John Ashcroft said Wednesday. ``We're digesting those opinions in terms of making sure that we adjust, or modify what we do, so that we accommodate the requirements as expressed by the Supreme Court.''

Yes, that's right, the US Attorney General has now given himself the right to lie about what the Supreme Court ruled, and declare all the poeple held at Guantanamo to be terrorists. This is on a par with me calling him a rapist and murderer, because of the events at Abu Ghraib.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 06:40 AM
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5. The man is a monster
Edited on Thu Jul-01-04 06:42 AM by teryang
With statements like that, it is almost inconceivable that he is a lawyer.

The Supreme Court doesn't "accord rights" it interprets the law.

The people in GTMO have never been adjudicated to be terrorists by any adjudicatory process.
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