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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 06:47 PM
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RCMP official at Arar inquiry says innocent people placed in national da
OTTAWA - The RCMP's deputy commissioner says information about innocent people caught in police investigations is stored in a national security database.

Gary Loeppky says that information can be passed to U.S. authorities if they request it. Loeppky was testifying at the public inquiry into the Maher Arar case.
Loeppky says anyone who is briefly associated with a person under investigation could end up in the force's database and the information passed on to U.S. officials.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/06/30/canada/ArarRCMP_040630


Wonder if it is reciprocal? Then could be used like "Yellow cake".
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 06:55 PM
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1. Canadians met with Syrian agents
Canadian officials met with Syrian intelligence agents over imprisoned Maher Arar, an internal government document shows. The document is part of a log book explaining what internal government documents can be released under Access to Information. The important passage reads: "all references to meetings with Syrian Intelligence should not go out." The document doesn't reveal who the Canadian officials were, or what happened at the meetings with Syrian intelligence.

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=6cefffc5-f4f6-4855-95ea-81cdd2ee5556
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 06:58 PM
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2. Prominent candidates and how they fared

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(Liberal) David McGuinty, brother of Ontario Premier Dalton McGinty, elected in Ottawa South; defeated Monia Mazigh (NDP), economist who helped get husband Maher Arar from Syrian jail.
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http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/2004/06/29/518060-cp.html
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:00 PM
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3. Too Bad
I was hoping that she would win.
I hope she keeps up for the next time.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:26 PM
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4. my family's already in there ...
We know this because a relative was hired for a job at a federal agency, and the routine background check turned up info on her being interned in WWII along with all the other Japanese-Canadians.

Actually, the database was wrong -- it was her PARENTS who were interned (she was born in the 1960s). And we even have an official signed apology (from Brian Mulroney, no less!). But apparently the Mounties are so eager to get their man (or woman) that they either haven't modified our records, or are figuring that one of us is going to do something subversive sooner or later, so they may as well hang onto them.

(To CSIS: I will help you keep your records up to date by saying I scrutineered for the NDP this election. Make a note of it.)
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:44 PM
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5. Who Is Watching The Fox
In the hen house?
As I understood CSIS it is not to be involved in internal police matters and has to answer to a minster.
OK now lets see something happen in parliament. We just got rid of the idea of the right is what everyone believes in.
Lets go.
For the RCMP lets flush out the actual rules and how far does this record keeping go with the Conservatives and the separatists? Remember the barn burnings.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:26 PM
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6. Well, I'm south of the border, and can't claim to have followed ...

you northern folks carefully, but the few articles I've read strongly suggest that there is little or no oversight of the canadian covert ops and intelligence crowd. :(
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:39 PM
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7. Don't worry, there's lots of oversight of CSIS
It's just that what oversight there is is probably mostly coming from those good folks at Langley Va. :evilgrin:
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