Effect of spillover ads in Kentucky presidential race debated

[Judi Lynn]

Effect of spillover ads in Kentucky presidential race debated
Democrats hope for help on ballot

By James R. Carroll
[e-mail]
The Courier-Journal


"I think the Kerry campaign knows Kentucky is at least a possibility," said Crit Luallen, the state auditor and Democratic Party leader.


People who think the ads could sway Kentucky for Kerry "are delusional," said Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

BOSTON — President Bush and Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry are spending relatively little money in Kentucky, but don't tell that to residents in 33 counties being bombarded by political ads on TV.

Their televisions are lighting up with advertisements meant for the bordering states of Ohio, Missouri and West Virginia — all considered up for grabs.

Democrats said last week that the unintended saturation could improve Kerry's chances to win in Kentucky, should convince his campaign to spend more money in the state and might even boost the chances of Democrats on state tickets.Top Kentucky Democrats said they tried to make that case with Kerry campaign strategists during the Democratic National Convention.

"We're right in the very center of the critical states in play," Kentucky Democratic Party Chairman Bill Garmer said. "We could become a battleground state with very little additional leverage."
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http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2004/08/01ky/A1-conads0801-6793.html

[physioex]

1. Geeez....

Every state has become a "battle ground state" from WV, Ohio, Kentucky, and NC.... I lost track :smoke:

[Gore1FL]

2. If nothing else

It is nice to see formerly "Red" states turn White!


The Repo's are going to have to fight hard in states they never considered an issue.

[truthisfreedom]

3. white? is that between red and blue?

[shockingelk]

4. Virginia too n/t

[Citizen Daryl]

20. Tennessee is now a battleground state, as well.

But I'm still unconvinced that the nation will be casting votes for President. I'm convinced the BCF have a horrifying "surprise" awaiting the nation.

[colonel odis]

5. mitch mcconnell is one of the most disgusting members

of the senate. and a poster boy for big tobacco.

[izzie]

7. I think he looks like the the Pillsbury dough-boy.

I have a thing about wanting to pock my finger into that guy. Yar your right I never said I was sane.

[Sporadicus]

11. If Mitch McConnell is the Pillsbury Doughboy

I hope he gets a yeast infection.

[colonel odis]

17. his mouth looks like an orifice from a different location on his body.

ewwwwwwww

[MasonJar]

26. He is my Senator and believe me, I totally agree with you. He

has a lot of power over Pug money. That is how he has changed a solidly Dem state into this Pug country. We are not giving up here; we are working hard to bring Kentucky around for Kerry/Edwards. Wouldn't hurt if Edwards would show up here at least once. Kerry came earlier.

[MarianJack]

6. Why Not?

Bill Clinton carried it twice, didn't he?

[Judi Lynn]

15. Never heard this. When did it happen?

How do you know? Is it possible for men to get "yeast infection?"

Do you think the previous poster was making a joke?

Anti-Clinton "jests" are awfully popular elsewhere.

[MarianJack]

27. ???????!!!!!

[struggle4progress]

28. I think MJ was asking whether WJC carried KY twice ...

... since he seems to be responding to the original post, rather than to the yeasty subthread.

That should moot most of your questions. And in response to the remaining one: googling shows guys can get yeast infections.

[Gunit_Sangh]

8. What I would like to know is ...

If Mitch thinks ads don't persuade people ... why the *cheney* do they saturate the air waves with so damn many of them?

[mandyky]

9. HaHa - I predicted this 7-18

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2014845

I feel vindicated. This whole country is ready for change, and not just at the White House!

Here's what I said in one of the sub-posts -
"I think the worm is turning here in KY. If Chandler wins again, and Clooney gets in as well as Dr Dan, KY might go Kerry. Edwards on the ticket helped, I think. KY went for Clinton - I think for both terms."

[alfredo]

19. bush is losing ground here. I am working in Fayette county and

the response has been mind blowing. We have over 500 volunteers as of Thursday .

If you live in central Ky, come to Dem headquarters at
Fayette County Democratic party.
431 So Broadway
Lexington Ky 40508
859 268 4448

It's on the corner of Broadway and Pine.

[FlashHarry]

10. Kentucky has a president?

Did they secede? Boy, I need to keep up on the news! ;-)

[kentuck]

12. Yeah. It's me.

:) But seriously, Kentucky should not be written off too early. They have been known to be the most "political" state in the union at the same time as they can be the most apathetic. But, they can be very passionate about their politics. It goes back to the days of Henry Clay and before. Mitch McConnel = Jiminy Cricket

[blueknight]

13. mitch mcconnell......

is as rotten as they come. we here in ky deserve the reputation we have as a bunch of ignorant,inbred,toothless hillbillies for electing mcconnell and bunning

[Gin]

14. McConnell looks like Star, Rush and Rove..they all have the same

look about them...like pod people....we've been invaded!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. I find it interesting to note that only the eastern third of the state....

of Kentucky consists of the kind of Appalachian terrain one would stereotypically consider to be the home for the kind of people you describe. The remaining two thirds of the state of Kentucky is pretty far removed from your rather descriptive remarks.

My Dad's folks come from the coal mining areas of eastern Kentucky and the western counties of West Virginia. My grandfather died a slow horrible death from Black Lung thanks to nearly forty years of work in the mines. His children, including my Dad, have been trying to overcome those kinds of prejudicial statements all of their lives. Most are college educated, some with advanced degrees. If you met them, I doubt seriously that you would consider any of them to be "ignorant, inbred, toothless hillbillies". Additionally, most of the folks I know around that area vote for Democratic candidates, including Al Gore in the hijacked 2000 election.

If you want to blame certain Kentuckians for voting for McConnell and Bunning, I guess you're going to have to look for them west of the Appalachians in the remaining two thirds of the state.

[trogdor]

18. Sounds about right.

You have Appalachia, you have Louisville, and then you have the rest of the state.

Louisville is divided up into:

the East End, which resembles Orange County, CA, both in the number of McMansions and its brand of Republican politics.

the South End, which is where the highest concentration of blacks (the legacy of Jim Crow) and poor people can be found. This part of Louisville usually gets divvied up several ways during reapportionment.

ditto for the West End, which is the blue collar part of Louisville. The further west you go, the more rednecks you see, until you get to...

the rest of the state, which is indistinguishable from, say, Alabama, except they grow tobacco instead of cotton. Gun racks and Rebel flags on pickup trucks abound. About 2/5 of these counties are dry.

[alfredo]

21. Is PRP and Valley Station still Klan hotbeds?

Shively used to be extremely redneck.

I was born and raised in Shively, right down that road across from the Evergreen cemetery.
The Watterson took our house.

[sadiesworld]

30. Huh?

The West End has the highest concentration of blacks and the South End is more blue collar.

Please don't tell me you LIVE in Louisville.

[SKKY]

31. How long did you live in Louisville?

Because, having lived in Louisville all my life, I don't recall the south end as having the highest concentration of blacks (I'm not sure what the legacy of Jim Crow has to do with Louisville either, but ok.). And as far as the West End being the "Blue Collar" part of town, perhaps I'm wrong, but I'll tell you what- why don't you go down to Shawnee Park on a (MTWTFS) Night and tell me how "Blue Collar" it really is. I know my beloved "Louavul" has changed since I joined the Military, but not that much.

[SKKY]

32. So as to establish the requisite ethos for this topic...

I graduated from Louisville Central in 1988. 11th and Chestnut Streets. Right on Broadway. Dead smack in the west end. Next to Beecher Terrace and Park Hill. Not what I would exactly call "working class", huh?

[FlashHarry]

29. I just love confusing headlines! And, I think KY's in play...

:)

[Zynx]

22. Kentucky is as much of a battleground state as Mississippi.

Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Louisiana are all doable southern states. Kentucky is not.

[mandyky]

23. Clinton/Gore won KY twice

The thing is they need to do is show up. I mean if they are going to go to Ohio, Tennessee, Missouri and West Virginia, that border KY, they need to stop in. Sending Edwards would work. I don't want Kerry Edwards to pass over any state. While the main goal is electoral votes, I want kerry to take every vote he can from shrub, whether Kerry wins the state or not.

In case you haven't read Palast's Best Democracy Money Can Buy, old W and his lawyers initially thought they would win the popular vote and were prepared to make a stink on that. I want Kerry to win the popular vote and the electoral votes!

[Raiden]

24. Don't Count on Kentucky

I doubt that Kentucky will be in play. Each election cycle it seems as though we move further and further into the red column. I also agree about how us Kentuckians deserve the Hillbilly stereotype for electing Mitch McConnell and Jim Bunning, two of the biggest appologists for the Bush Administration in the Senate. I don't get it, they're nothing but dittomonkeys, they really haven't done much of anything for our state and yet they keep getting reelected. And it my be true that the Eastern third (my homeland :)) may be filled with Rednecks and Hillbillies, but I'm pretty sure it's the most heavily Democratic region in the state, Zell Miller Democrats, but Democrats nonetheless.

[mandyky]

25. Just heard on CNN Headline News that Kerry

is visiting Bowling Green, KY today!

[SKKY]

33. He's playing this very smartly.

I don't think he'll have to work to terribly hard to get Louisville and/or Lexington to swing. It's the smaller towns (just like Bowling Green) he'll have to convince. Very savvy on his part.