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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 05:54 PM
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Promises to avenge deaths of civilian contractors unfulfilled
The level of failure described in this article is staggering.


http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/9296914.htm

In the days after four American security contractors were killed and mutilated in Fallujah, Iraq, America's leaders promised justice and retribution.

"Their deaths will not go unpunished," said L. Paul Bremer, the top U.S. civilian in Iraq.

The military response would be "overwhelming," said Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt. "We will pacify that city."

President Bush's spokesman said the drive for Iraqi democracy would "not be deterred by these cowardly, hateful acts."

Months later, none of these promises has been fulfilled.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 06:04 PM
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1. kick n/t
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 06:22 PM
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2. tell it to Fallujah - U.S. jets strike TERROR in Fallujah, Iraq


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - U.S. jets attacked a house in the turbulent city of Fallujah on Monday, witnesses and police said. As many as 15 people were killed in the blast, an Arab television station reported.

Ambulances headed to the eastern side of the city, where U.S. airstrikes have frequently targeted safehouses used by members of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's network. Rescue workers picked up body parts, witnesses said.

"U.S. jets shelled a residential house in the al-Shuhdaa neighborhood in Fallujah," said police Capt. Mekky Hussein al-Zaidan.

The U.S. military had no comment on the attack.

He had no word on casualties, but Al-Arabiya reported that as many as 15 people were killed.

U.S. forces have hit the area with four airstrikes since June 19, killing dozens.

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http://www.wokr13.tv/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=FBDA025D-FB45-4166-837F-8949603D2C0B

i mean of course they were all talk but quickly came up against any occupiers delima who doesn't have the 'hearts-n-minds of the population with them... either kill'em all and let 'god' sort'em out or waste tons of treasure and blood REACTING too thousands of pinpricks daily.

japan had the same trouble in nanking and they had some 'funny' ways of sort'n out the 'good-guys' from the bad'uns.

we MUST bring our troops home and let the iraqis sort it out from here.

didn't we PROMISE them and the rest of the world FREEDOM and a DEMOCRACY :wtf:

peace
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 06:33 PM
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3. ummm.... so should we go kill some more Iraqis?
Is the point that we should go avenge these deaths or that BushCo are all talk?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 06:35 PM
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4. the headline is bad
this article is not about avenging the deaths, it's about solving the problems in Fallujah.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 06:36 PM
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5. r they talking about pulling our troops out?
that would be a start :shrug:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 06:54 PM
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:09 PM
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7. Mercenaries carrying deadly weapons
Edited on Sun Aug-01-04 07:11 PM by oneighty
no matter the country of origin are hardly innocent in appearance. Freedom fighters cannot tell the good from the bad. It is always so.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:14 PM
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9. Around1,000 Iraqi deaths...
No one knows how many maimed. Most of those were woman and children. How many deaths and maimed are sufficient for the avenging? Of course, the people that killed the mercs and those that desacrated their bodies have not been aprehended. Is this what the US now stands for? Revenge slaugher.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:10 PM
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8. "Apes?" "Savages?" "innocent American workers?" WTF???????
Not sure what year and planet you're living in/on, but we unilaterally **invaded** Iraq. What would you do if someone invaded your country? Wouldn't you defend your home and family? Wouldn't you want to avenge your dead family members and friends? Referring to the Iraqi people as "apes" and "savages" shows how little you know about the world and its cultures.

As for "innocent American workers," these guys were paramilitary mercenaries, doing who-knows-what deadly business -- anything from brutal interrogations to death squads. They were taking a major risk in doing this kind of dirty work, and they paid the price for it.

The Iraqis aren't stupid -- they knew *exactly* who they were hitting when they killed these guys -- they had a score to settle.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:17 PM
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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:34 PM
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11. Most Iraqis are glad to be rid of Saddam and want us to go away
we will have made Iraq free free for Al Sadr who seems just as pro US as the former regime-the bottom line is that the military plan to occupy the country was a disaster and those who killed Americans are laughing at your statement now because we can't lay a finger on them-I disagreed with the war on so many levels but lets just talk strategy-how can any idiot believe that a Islamic country of millions boiling in ethnic and religious diversity be properly occupied from the outset by a mere 130,000 Christian soldiers?-Bush blew it "big time"-other countries did not want to wage war in Iraq and Bush failed to convince them-accordingly our war of choice now costs us our financial future and will make us weaker-the middle east was called an "ungrateful volcano" by Churchill (whose bust adorns our President's desk)-too bad Bush never read him-the folly of this war will be a many chaptered book with the same refrain-"How could an American President embark on such a foolish endeavor"
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:37 PM
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12. Countdown to tombstone...3...2...1.... n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 07:49 PM
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13. Get y'er ass over there then. n/t
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PhuLoi Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 08:46 PM
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14. Without hostility toward you, I must say you have no real
concept of what war is truely like. Savage acts are the norm and are committed by both sides. War is savage. No matter how much you may rationalize it, we are the invaders and occupiers in their eyes.

If North Korea were to invade the US to free us from the facist Bush/Neocon dictatorship, killed ten thousand civilians, all the while expressing heartfelt regret for the colateral damage, what do you think the reaction of the civilian population would be? I know what I would do.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:24 PM
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16. They were mercenaries engaged in some sort of death squad mission
The story that they were protecting a food shipment was debunked lont ago. The Abu Graib revelations gave us a hint of the sort of "work" American contractors were doing in Iraq. They were not angels of mercy!

We have contractors/mercenaries like that in Colombia, they have amassed quite a record of murder and torture.
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