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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:53 AM
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Source: Terror attack to be in early September
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usterr033916365aug03,0,2200894,print.story?coll=ny-homepage-big-pix

More financial institutions than previously disclosed may be at risk of attack, and an al-Qaida operative has told British intelligence that the group's target date is early September, intelligence sources said yesterday.

The operative, described as "credible" by British intelligence, told his debriefers that the attack would take place "60 days before the presidential election" on Nov. 2, according to a former senior National Security Council official. On Sept. 2 President George W. Bush is expected to address the Republican National Convention at Madison Square Garden.

Counterterrorism officials are analyzing data from a computer seized in Pakistan last month to see if financial institutions in addition to the five disclosed Sunday are at risk of attack, U.S. officials said yesterday.

The former senior National Security Council official said he was told by British intelligence that they are interrogating an al-Qaida operative who confirmed that financial institutions are being targeted and that an attack was planned for September.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:55 AM
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:11 PM
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17. "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING"
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General Discontent Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:50 PM
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41. AND I WANT MY MOMMY!
n/t


DWolfman
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:56 PM
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42. SUSPEND THE ELECTION PREEMPTIVELY!!!
SUSPEND THE ELECTION PREEMPTIVELY!!!
SUSPEND THE ELECTION PREEMPTIVELY!!!
SUSPEND THE ELECTION PREEMPTIVELY!!!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:58 AM
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2. and if you don't believe this you are "unamerican"..... horseshit
that we have a govt we can't trust for a minute
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Joylaughter Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:02 AM
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3. Isn't 60 days 9/3
Like Flight 93?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:48 PM
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47. Yes...
But we can't expect those who glorify illiteracy to be able to add, either.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:04 AM
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4. Of course, now this gives excuse to cancel
RNC, and putting the BoyKing up before the public. Who wants to bet they totally call off debates too?
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:06 AM
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5. All terror all the time brought to you by Bush/Cheney 2004
I hope they bring on the Chicken Little effect and that everyone refuses to take them seriously.

If we are safer why the alerts? If we aren't safe why does Bush say we are? He will protect us yet we are going to get hit in Sept.

I get it! They will warn us and warn us and when nothing happens, Bush will take credit for it.

It is like the guy that was banging on a drum in downtown Baltimore. When asked why he was banging the drum he said it was to keep the wild elephants away. Some guy replied that there aren't any wild elephants in Baltimore. The first guy said, see it works!
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:09 AM
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6. This came out from another source before they were outed.
The Unions received permits for a massive anti bush demonstation at the Garden. A Union official stated the demonstation would go on in spite of any threat and without a permit if necessary.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:14 AM
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8. You have to suspect this is being designed to
quell the MASSIVE protests that are planned for NY.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:12 AM
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7. Now it is British Intelligence and not Pakistani?
JeezuzH I feel like I am going crazy.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:29 AM
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9. "What you [George Bush] are doing to America
is playing boogeyman with us: ‘Don’t worry about prescription drugs, the boogey man is coming. Don’t worry about unemployment drugs, the boogeyman is coming. Don’t worry about education, the boogeyman is coming.’ We are not children. We’re grown. We are not running from no boogeyman." - Al Sharpton, anti-war demonstration, Washington, October 22, 2002.
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JLuckey Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:12 PM
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37. Bravo.......
Well said!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:30 AM
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10. early september..
like 09/11/01? This is BULLSHIT!!!!!!
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rabbit2484 Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:05 PM
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15. This is probably also three years old
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:31 AM
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11. A 'thwarted' attack...
...in the midst of the RNC.

How convenient.

The screenplay master plan probably calls for Junta Boy to personally snip the red wire just seconds before the bomb goes off.

With intel made possible by torture. (Justifies Abu Graib)
Or the Patriot Act. (Justifies shredding the Constitution)



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Rolling Titanic Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:31 PM
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22. Here is something even more scary...
a major attack that took out many Repub leaders would leave the boy king in position to declare the election off without any opposition from his own party.

When they were talking terror threatening before the DNC I thought to myself that if I was running the Boy King's terror (LIHOP/MIHOP)squad I would blow up my own people, not the democrats. That would put him above suspicion and at the same time give him the public panic necessary to eliminate the opposition. And ordinary terror attack might leave some of the more Paleo-Con members of Congress there to oppose their own party.If they are gone, then all he has to do is deal with Democrats and he'll paste them with being anti-patriotic one the eve of election and, oh BTW, we need emergency powers to keep the gov't going.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:09 PM
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50. And even scarier...
Terror Attack on the RNC...but only protestors are injured or killed. Media omits that inconvenient detail...

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:33 AM
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12. When it comes from Al Jazeera, I'll believe it
American and British sources are not credible.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:36 AM
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13. YIKES...Gotta Git That Thar Bunker Ready!
Let's see:
1. Batteries
2. Battery operated ray-dee-o
3. Canned food (yuck)
4. Can opener
5. Bottled water

Um......what else? I should know this. We have been thru this bullshit drill how many times.

They sky is falling, the sky is falling..........give me a break.
The only bogeyman I am scared of it the one in the white house.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:13 PM
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18. Don't forget the sticky tape! nt
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
30. duct tape
and your rubber ducky
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azmesa207 Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:48 PM
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46. Yikes
Don't worry about anything until Chaney goes to his hidden undisclosed position or Bush take off in Air force 1 and hides for a few days
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:40 AM
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14. What is this--GROUNDHOG DAY? n/t
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:06 PM
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16. could it be...September 11???
and could that info be from early 2001?

What jackasses.
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Spoon Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:25 PM
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19. The guy being interviewed by British Int isn't the same guy
with the info on the hard drive.
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:27 PM
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21. YOU ARE RIGHT!!
WHY CAN'T MEDIA SEE THIS CONNECTION????????
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:26 PM
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20. IF INFO IS 4 YEARS OLD, COULDN'T THEY BE REFERRING TO 9-11
Which happened in "early September???"

Obviously, this old info was in reference to the 9-11 attacks!
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:34 PM
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23. The info is three years old.
9-11 was just under three years ago.

Looks like they really, really, really fucked up.
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:39 PM
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24. any attack will be seen as failure to protect the country
attack equals landslide Kerry.
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RazzoDazzo Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:42 PM
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25. Hum? How long have they posessed this "intelligence"? Did they just get it
this Sunday knowing they've got a captive audience at home enjoying their weekend so that the Homeland Insecurity Director can warn of us of a 3 year old danger while simultaneously praising the chimp in his fight against terror. Give me fucking break.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:48 PM
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26. Sunday afternoon is the perfect time to talk terror
in New York. Nobody is in those particular buildings, no panic, nobody hurt in a rush for the exits. They jolly well weren't going to make a bogus announcement like that midday during the week.
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LyleNews Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:54 PM
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27. Why did they single out only ONE warning from Butch's August 2001 Vacation
http://butchandchicanery.blogspot.com/2004/08/while-butch-played-august-2001.html>Butch missed his clue(less) warnings in 2001
Late summer 2001



Jordanian intelligence (the GID) makes a communications intercept deemed so important that King Abdullah's men relay it to Washington, probably through the CIA station in Amman. To make doubly sure the message gets through it is passed through an Arab intermediary to a German intelligence agent. The message states that a major attack, code named The Big Wedding, is planned inside the US and that aircraft will be used. “When it became clear that the information was embarrassing to Bush Administration officials and congressmen who at first denied that there had been any such warnings before September 11, senior Jordanian officials backed away from their earlier confirmations.” Christian Science Monitor calls the story “confidently authenticated” even though Jordan has backed away from it.


August 2001

A Raytheon 727 lands in New Mexico in August, 2001.

The US company Raytheon lands a 727 six times in a military base in New Mexico without any pilots on board. This is done to test equipment making future hijackings more difficult, by allowing ground control to take over the flying of a hijacked plane. Several Raytheon employees with possible ties to this remote control technology program appear to have been on the hijacked 9/11 flight (see September 25, 2001). However, most media reports after 9/11 suggest such technology is currently impossible. For instance, the Observer quotes an expert who says “the technology is pretty much there” but still untried. An aviation-security expert at Jane's Defence Weekly says this type of technology belongs “in the realms of science fiction.” Even Bush appears to deny the technology current exists. He gives a speech after 9/11 in which he mentions that the government would give grants to research “new technology, probably far in the future, allowing air traffic controllers to land distressed planes by remote control.”


August 2001 (D)



Russian President Putin warns the US that suicide pilots are training for attacks on US targets. The head of Russian intelligence also later states, “We had clearly warned them” on several occasions, but they “did not pay the necessary attention.” A Russian newspaper on September 12, 2001 claims that “Russian Intelligence agents know the organizers and executors of these terrorist attacks. More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation to these actions a couple of weeks before they happened.” Interestingly, the article claims that at least two of the terrorists were Muslim radicals from Uzbekistan. (the story currently on the Izvestia web site has been edited to delete a key paragraph, the link is to a translation of the original article from From the Wilderness)

August 2001 (G)

Robert Baer

Former CIA agent Robert Baer (see December 1997 and January 23, 2002) is advising a prince in a Persian Gulf royal family, when a military associate of this prince passes information to him about a “spectacular terrorist operation” that will take place shortly. He is also given a computer record of around 600 secret al-Qaeda operatives in Saudi Arabia and Yemen. The list includes 10 names that will be placed on the FBI's most wanted terrorists list after 9/11. He is also given evidence that a Saudi merchant family had funded the USS Cole bombing (see October 12, 2000), and that the Yemeni government is covering up information related to that bombing. At the military officer's request, he offers all this information to the Saudi Arabian government. But an aide to the Saudi defense minister, Prince Sultan, refuses to look at the list or to pass the names on (Sultan is later sued for his complicity in the 9/11 plot, see August 15, 2002 ). Baer also passes the information on to a senior CIA official and the CIA's Counter-Terrorism Center, but there is no response or action. Large sections of Baer's book are blacked out, having been censored by the CIA.


Early August 2001 (B)



AP later reports that the “CIA had developed general information a month before the attacks that heightened concerns that bin Laden and his followers were increasingly determined to strike on US soil.” A CIA official affirmed that: “There was something specific in early August that said to us that was determined in striking on US soil.” A major excuse given since 9/11 is that the Bush administration was focused on overseas attacks, and didn't expect a domestic attack (for instance see May 16, 2002 (B)).


August 1, 2001 (C)



A motel owner in Oklahoma City later claims that Zacarias Moussaoui and hijackers Atta and Marwan Alshehhi all come to his motel on this day. Although the FBI has investigated this lead, they have not commented on it, and prosecutors have not attempted to use the incident as evidence in their case against Moussaoui. It is widely admitted the case against Moussaoui is not strong (for instance, Newsweek states: “there's nothing that shows Moussaoui ever had contact with any of the 9/11 hijackers” ). The LA Weekly speculates the FBI may want to ignore this lead because it “could force the FBI to reopen its investigation of Middle Eastern connections to the 1995 Oklahoma City blast, because convicted bombers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols reportedly stayed at the same motel, interacting with a group of Iraqis during the weeks before the bombing.”


August 6, 2001



President Bush receives a classified intelligence briefing at his Crawford, Texas ranch indicating that bin Laden might be planning to hijack commercial airliners. The memo read to him is titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.” The entire memo focuses on the possibility of terrorist attacks inside the US. A page and a half of the contents are released after National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice testifies to the 9/11 Commission []. The 9/11 Congressional inquiry call it “a closely held intelligence report for senior government officials” presented in early August 2001. Rice testifies that the memo is mostly historic regarding bin Laden's previous activities and she says it contains no specific information that would have prevented an attack.
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wordout Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:56 PM
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28. Republican clearinghouse scheduled for Sept 2?
ok. I'll go set the timer on the vcr. :)

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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:00 PM
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29. That's right. Sep of 2001 !!!!!!!!!!
incompetent bastards!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:58 PM
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31. And then comes
the end of the world -- and -- the RAPTURE. See ya there guys.

Lies, lies, lies. Remember the Iraqi WMDS, Al Qaeda links and welcome committees waiting for our troops. Here we go again. If they have real information, they would let us know -- and they would be arresting people right now.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:06 PM
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32. Gee... I wonder if they'll also warn us about threats on Pearl Harbor
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:03 PM
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33. to both know and not know
Damned! That Zen Master Rummy has infected Homeland Security with the uncanny ability to both know and not know... how special.


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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:09 PM
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34. I honestly do not believe the "60 days before the election" crap.
Do you really think the terrorists are sitting around thinking.. 'let's pick a date, how about 60 days before the election?'. What's the significance of 60 days? This stinks.. it all stinks. The economy will tumble in a big way now... every time they get these wierd stories out there, the consumer confidence index plunges. Bush needs to go back to Crawford in January. We need a real leader. What hounds of hell has Bush unleashed through is combination of inattention and nefarious purposes???
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:17 PM
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38. I agree Caliphoto .. nice ROUND figure ...
And isn't that a bit too far in advance of the elections? I mean after all wasn't it like the day of the election when Spain was hit?
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:11 PM
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35. And now that it's public knowledge we will NEVER change it!!!!!!
Can someone please show these people the PERMANENT exit?!?!?! They would never have landed a show in vaudeville!!!!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:11 PM
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36. if bush would have taken care of business here at home like he should have
we wouldn't have people scrambling around with their heads in their hands now. we've had 3 years to prepare for this... where's georgie been? falling on his face on vacation.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:18 PM
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39. Will New Yorkers ever forgive the President for Having to be in NYC
with his convention to remind people of 9/11 - if there are thousands more killed?

I realize we have to put on a brave face... but they are needlessly putting thousands of people's lives in danger just because they felt the need to pretend they are succeeding against terrorism.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:19 PM
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40. Ho hum
Boring!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:58 PM
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43. Who's the "credible operative"? Chalabi, or Curveball?
:shrug:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:59 PM
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44. Bush ought to schedule a trip to a Florida elementary school that day!
And, while history is repeating itself, I wonder if he'll get the August 6th Presidential Daily Briefing saying "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US" on Friday?
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:45 PM
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45. so, Bush would still invade Iraq and not go after Al Qaeda?
Fire the bastards.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:54 PM
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48. What would happen if
something happened to Kerry and Edwards at that point?

Would there be a special election, or would Democrats be SOL?

This has concerned me for some time now. I don't trust the bushistas not to stage a domestic terror attack just to keep their guy in.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:59 PM
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49. Early September - back to school
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 05:59 PM by daleo
Pick up your copy of "The Pet Goat II". Read along with the chimp.
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