It's Keyes! (IL GOOP Senate Candidate)

[tritsofme]

Wednesday, August 04, 2004

Alan Keyes is the Senate Nominee for the Illinois GOP. More details to come...
http://www.illinoisleader.com/news/newsview.asp?c=18251

That's what this conservative IL site says.

[Catch22Dem]

1. Obama in a landslide

The GOP just put Keyes up so they wouldn't lose a senate seat without a fight. Keyes isn't even from Illinois. The voters there are going to show him the door very quickly.

[IndianaGreen]

27. Keyes is too far out in right field, even for the GOP

Keyes is perhaps the most eloquent advocate of the Social Conservatives that I have ever heard. It would be great to see him go against Obama in a debate. It will be a great way to see the sharp differences between the two parties. It should be a fantastic thing to watch!

[bitchkitty]

32. Agree - I agree with almost nothing Keyes says -

but he says it very well.

[4_Legs_Good]

60. I don't know; he won the endorsement of Michael Moore's TV show!

You might recall that the Awful Truth agreed to endorse a candidate if he would get into a mosh pit. Keyes is the only one who would do it (Gore also refused), and he officially got the endorsement.

The funny part is that he took heat for it in a later debate, where the Christian Conservatives reamed him for participating in a "Rage against the Machine" mosh pit. It was really hilarious. What a bunch of Dumb f*cks.

david

[flamingyouth]

2. Oh, man, this will be good

Alan Keyes is a perfectly mainstream candidate for Illinois! :D

[SaveElmer]

3. He's a fringe candidate

He ran in Maryland and got his ass handed to him...his is a right wing idealogue totally at odds with where Illinois is right now

[The Zanti Regent]

50. Please let Keyes take down the Four WHORSEMEN with him

Please let Keyes take down Hastert, Hyde, La Hood and Crane!

[brooklynite]

56. Worse than that

Beyond his ideological extremism, he's actually a very unstable candidate. When I was up in New Hampshire four years ago (we take a vacation visit to the Primary), Keyes was the one Republican candidate I never saw, because he would never reliably show up at scheduled stops. Then there was that little unpleasantness of him being carted off by the Police in handcuffs from a Republic Presidential debate in 1996.....

[democrat in Tallahassee]

4. but he lives in Maryland? oh, he's a repug; he can do whatever he

wants

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

22. even a freeper called him on it:

Alan Keyes in 2000:

I deeply resent the destruction of federalism represented by Hillary Clinton's willingness go into a state she doesn't even live in and pretend to represent people there, so I certainly wouldn't imitate it.

Principled conservative, huh?
30 posted on 08/04/2004 6:25:50 PM PDT by LandOfLincolnGOP
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[liberalhistorian]

25. Wow! And on Freak Republic, too!

Wonder how long that poor, brave soul will last!

[Walt Starr]

35. He's been there a LOOOOONG time

He'll still be around.

Illinois republicans are pissed as hell about the carpetbagging issue. Keyes will be lucky to get half the GOP vote, let alone make a good showing overall.

[rogerashton]

5. I hear tell he doesn't actually LIVE in Illinois.

But, of course, the Rethuglican party doesn't let a little thing like the constitution stand in their way. Cheyney, f'rinstance.

[HereSince1628]

11. Aren't the details of who can be elected left up to the states?

So his residency may not, and apparantly does not matter.

I grew up in Illinois, went to college and part of grad school there, and still have family there... I can't imagine that the republicans in the suburbs of Chicago and downstate believe that this will win swing voters. They must believe they have the party faithful to make it work.

I always thought politics was a nutty thing, but I thought folks from the sucker state, well, weren't such suckers.

[SadEagle]

36. Not entirely.

U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 3, Clause 3:

"No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen."

(http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html)

Of course, that only requires him to be a resident when elected, and states have their own eligibility requirements...

[LiberalFighter]

49. Checked Illinois residency requirements...

Only requires him to be an inhabitant at time of the election. They refer to Article I, Section 2.

Nothing about having to be a registered voter is listed.


Here is a tidbit that I found.

However, all contemporary candidates for office with minimal residency in their chosen state, must be measured against the case of Senator James Shields, who was the only Senator elected from three different states: in 1849; in 1858; and finally, in 1879. When the voters in one state got tired of him, he moved!

Found it on C-Span

[fdr_hst_fan]

63. Don't you have to be a LEGAL resident of

a state TWO YEARS before you can run for that state's political offices? Besides, Keyes SUCKS CHEESE, BIGTIME!

[Walt Starr]

66. Nope, you only need to inhabit the state

on the day you're elected according to Article I., Section 3., Clause 3. of the constitution.

Getting on a primary ballot is completely different and is not covered by the constitution. This is an instace where the primary process has been completely circumvented.

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[liberalhistorian]

10. LOL!

You hit the nail on the head there, Mike. And imagine if this were a Dem, you'd never hear the end of the fact that he's not even from the state where he's running for Senate. Guess the rules only apply to repuke candidates.

Keyes is such a far-right idealogue that even a lot of conservatives are uncomfortable with him, he'll be lucky to get even a small percentage of the vote.

[BattyDem]

7. Congratulations, Senator Obama!

:evilgrin:

[greatauntoftriplets]

8. On the local news tonight....

they quoted Keyes as saying he didn't like "carpetbagger candidates". What a frigging hypocrite!

[jeanmarc]

9. Overspun nails Keyes

[tridim]

13. I certainly wouldn't imitate it.

Unless of course my rich, white Republican overlords deem it so.

[fob]

45. destruction of federalism? What the cheney does that mean?

Didn't Hillary and Bill make it known well before their intention to move to New York? Wasn't she an actual RESIDENT before running? Even if she wasn't their intention was clear. It had been 8 years since they lived in Arkansas, they had to go live somewhere, and New Yorkers had the choice to say yes or no. Fucking Mitt Romney was a resident of UTAH who is now the (repuke) Gov of Massachusettes! Contrary to the effin US CONSTITUTION bush* anad cheney were residents of the same goddamned state of Texas, now THAT is a destruction of FEDERALISM!!

[Cha]

28. I'm so glad they've got that quote out there already! I

wonder if he remembered dribbling it in 2000?

[xray s]

12. any chance he will be keynote speaker at the GOOP convention?

hahahahahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahahaHhaha!!!!

oooHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEHEHEHHEHEEHEheheheehhheee!!!

HHHhaahaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Oh gawd...I can't breathe...I am laughing SO DAMN HARD! :D

[Cha]

31. You're making me laugh! And we can all use one about

Now!}(

[stevebreeze]

14. the best affirmative action is to be a black GOPer

Can anyone with a brain not see this as racial politics at it's worst? Do these moron think we have come to like Obama because of his color? IT'S HIS ISSUES! The only bad part of this is because the GOP won't spend any money state wide, they will pour it against some very good locals we have here in the burbs.
:kick:

[Edgewater_Joe]

15. At Least It'll Be Entertaining

After all, anybody that Michael Moore can get into a mosh pit can't be all bad.

In a circus-geek kind of way, that is.

Whatta embarassment for the GOP!

[Reverend_Smitty]

16. Well I think that it is safe to say that the GOP has written off this seat

No way in hell that Keyes is ever going beat Obama. Especially in a moderate to left state like Illinois. Chalk one up for the good guys!!!!!!!!!

[Imalittleteapot]

17. Keyes will help Bush.

Pro-life, anti-gay marriage amendent, etc. GOP knows he can't win, but Keyes can spread the Bush hate.

[Mojambo]

23. I agree.

This was a decision to help the national party.

Keyes is ALL about the typical republican wedge issues and he is going to hammer them home because he knows it's not about winning the seat.

On balance I personally don't think he'll have nearly the impact that they think. But what choice did they have? They could either not run a candidate or do this.

[MODemocrat]

18. Obama, I believe you just became Senator of Illinois

Strange that Keyes would do the same thing that he condemned Hillary Clinton for doing. So he's a carpetbagger now, huh?
:bounce: :bounce:

[DrBB]

19. Keyes, hypocrite, holds forth on carpetbagging Hillary

Kevin Roy: When Pat Buchanan suggested on fox news channel in march of 2000 that he run for senate in New York, Keyes responded "I deeply resent the destruction of federalism represented by Hillary Clinton's willingness go into a state she doesn't even live in and pretend to represent people there, so I certainly wouldn't imitate it." That is from Alan Keyes three years ago. Now, he is scheduled to meet with the republican central committee at 2:00 this afternoon. They are expected to announce the final decision sometime later today.

From ABC 7 in Chicago, via Kos via (gack) Archpundit.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

20. BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

can't wait til Al reads his concession speech in his helium-addled voice

[struggle4progress]

21. Constitution Party Conference Features Roy Moore and Alan Keyes

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONSTITUTION PARTY NATIONAL COMMITTEE
Contact: Laurel Lynn 717-390-1993

Constitution Party Of Pennsylvania To Host "Ten Commandments" Judge, Alan Keyes At Conference January 24

Middletown, PA - Citing the need to re-introduce fundamental legal principles to the American people, the Constitution Party of Pennsylvania has announced that it will be hosting Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore and former UN Ambassador Alan Keyes at its Biblical Foundations of American Law Conference, which will be held on
Saturday, January 24, in Lancaster.

"There are no two more brilliant men in the United States today than Justice Moore and Ambassador Keyes," said Jeff Rhine, chairman of the Constitution Party of Pennsylvania. "Both men are driven not only by their convictions but they also back up what they think and what they believe with facts and principles that strike a cord with everyone who hears them."
<snip>

http://www.gaconstitutionparty.org/s.nl/c.ACCT73046/sc.9/category.2/it.I/id.53/.f

[bluestateguy]

24. Who will get the racist vote?

[Mojambo]

26. Anybody been to freeperland?

I'd be very curious to get their demented take on this one.

[janx]

47. They are fighting...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1185225/posts?q=1&&page=1

[mike1963]

61. Funny how the freepers don't care much for black folk, normally...

fukin hypocrites...

[KC21304]

29. So after he loses his ass, will he have to stick around

in Illinois for a day or two ? :P

[tomfodw]

55. Just long enough...

...to pack his carpetbag and move on.

Obama better take him seriously. I think that national Republican Party will pour major money into this in an attempt to strangle Obama's national career in the crib. I don't think it will work - Keyes really is far out of touch with Illinois these days - but Obama can't just assume the race is his. I doubt he will do that anyway, but he better not.

[Bleacher Creature]

30. This is as close to a concession as you can get

without actually conceding.

[Elidor]

33. Col. Sanders found a chicken to run!

Chicken run!

[tritsofme]

34. Local news just confirmed Keyes is picked nt

[Walt Starr]

38. But, like Ditka, he's not accepted it

He's "considering" it and will give hisanswer on Sunday!

You just can't make up the shit that's happened in this fiasco!!!!

[Walt Starr]

37. It's Keyes (MAYBE!!!)

Keyes has not said yes He's "considering" it and will give his answer on Sunday.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Pachamama]

53. What happens if no one in the GOP wants to run against Obama? Does he win

by default? Just curious....

I was so impressed by Obama at the convention....I wouldn't want to run against this guy either....

[Walt Starr]

57. No there is a Green candidate, a Libertarian, and an Independent

I figure the Libertarian would come in second.

[never cry wolf]

39. Keyes wants time to think it over

Illinois GOP asks Alan Keyes to be Senate candidate; he wants time

MAURA KELLY LANNAN

Associated Press

CHICAGO - Illinois Republican leaders asked Alan Keyes, an East Coast conservative who says out-of-state candidates aren't a good idea on principle, to be their U.S. Senate candidate Wednesday. But like a string of previous possibilities, Keyes said he needed a few days to think about it before deciding.

Keyes told a news conference Wednesday night that he would make an announcement by Sunday.

"If I do step forward to accept this challenge, I will be laying it all on the line," he said.

snip----------

But Keyes' response that he needed time to consider the offer, and likely talk to national Republican leaders about financial help, was an uneasy echo of the party's experience with previous potential candidates. Party leaders have repeatedly tried to enlist a big-name candidate - former governors, state senators, even Chicago Bears great Mike Ditka each toyed with the idea few days, but ultimately declined.

Keyes, a two-time presidential hopeful, hadn't even surfaced as a possible contender until early this week. He missed the scheduled candidate interviews Tuesday, but when the committee narrowed its choices to two that night, Keyes was still in.

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/special_packages/election2004/9321613.htm

BWAHAHAHAHAHA, if he turns em down how would that look for the Illinois goop?

[Liberal_Dog]

40. In The Debate, I Hope They Ask...

both candidates, "What is the biggest mistake you've made in your adult life and what did you learn from it?"

Keyes, along with the other Repug candidates, was asked that question during a 2000 debate in South Carolina(if I remember correctly). Keyes basically freaked out at that question.

I thought that was so funny.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

52. Admission of mistakes is too repugnant for Repugnants

"Keyes basically freaked out at that question."

So did Bush famously in a press conference. Mind you, after bringing his considerable intellect to bear on the issue for almost as long as the Pet Goat seven minutes that live in infamy, he concluded his deep and probing search for flaws and mistakes without finding any. Suits his anointed self-image.

The opposition will lie and do dirty tricks, but they can be wound up.

Wind 'em up!

[Zynx]

41. What a joke.

[stevedeshazer]

42. What happened to the Nuge?

Ted Nugent wasn't far enough to the right for them?

[The_Casual_Observer]

43. Couldn't they just send the money to the United Way or something?

Is there really enough money around to piss it away on a fruitless campaign like this?

[WMliberal]

44. anyone think he'll get a bounce at the GOP convention?

you know they're gonna parade his ass on stage, just like in 2000.
he's fine fodder for Obama.
as much of an uncle tom ALan Keyes is, if this report is true, isn't this the first time a senate race is pitting two afro-americans against each other?

[genius]

46. Won't that divide the black vote?

[madrchsod]

51. ahhhh-no

well maybe one or two black voters will vote for him....

[genius]

59. We really need Jackson and Sharpton to campaign for Obama there.

[JSJ]

48. Rove's Uncle Tom Runs For Office

Rove tells Tom to run and Tom asks how high.

[phrenzy]

54. Keyes Rules

If it wasn't for the fact that he is a right wing nutcase I would love that guy! I love his speaking style and passion. He is an amazing orator and bites his tongue for no one. Too bad he is just a fundy nutcase. I still find him very entertaining to watch.

In any case - he's going to lose badly to Obama, but it will be a fun fight to watch!

[Ducks In A Row]

58. Perfect!

Alan will lose and the GOP won't have any of their real candidate have to take a lose onto their resumes.

[MrBenchley]

62. A-a-a-and why is he running?

So he can spread his message of personal responsibility and good fiscal management, er....

"Keyes' 1992 Senate campaign was hurt badly when the press revealed he was paying himself a huge amount out of campaign funds. This is technically legal but rare and sleazy. We don't know of any other candidates for president who have ever paid themselves out of campaign funds from any campaign they've been in.
Keyes was happy to take $100,000/year as salary from his 1992 Senate campaign, but when it came time to pay that same campaign's debts, he said: "I personally do not owe the debt that was owed by the campaign." That was about $45,000, which was unpaid from 1992 through the end of 1996, according to the FEC. Of course, if he hadn't paid himself so much money, he would have had plenty to pay off that debt.
Keyes told a reporter that the money will be paid off -- by the campaign, not by him of course -- but several creditors said Keyes hadn't communicated with them years later. In 1995-1996, for example, his 1992 Senate campaign received $34,821 and spent over $15,000, but he couldn't manage to pay off any of that debt.
Incidentally, Keyes still owes over $200,000 on his 1996 presidential campaign as well. At the end of 1996, he owed $350,000; since then, he has raised over $1,000,000 for a campaign that is over, but spent even more ($1,099,972) and only reduced his debt by $150,000.
In 1995, his campaign wrote over $20,000 in bad checks, which his spokesman blamed on a former campaign aide. "

http://www.realchange.org/keyes.htm#paid

[delete_bush]

64. Damn! I was ready to move to IL and campaign

for him until I read this, I just can't believe that this paragon of virtue weasled out of taking personal responsibility for his "campaign" debts.

Too bad he's a one note Johnny and on the wrong side of 99% of every issue, he really is incredible and fun to watch when he's on topic in a debate setting.

[Bandit]

65. I think this is great news

Those homophobic bigots in the Republican Party will not even bother to vote since it is a choice between two lessor human beings so we may just clobber their House Candidates as well. Hastert and Hyde may just be saying bye bye. :-)

[AKing]

67. He blasted Hillary for doing the same thing!

His own sound bytes castigating Hillary Clinton for being a carpetbagger will make for an interesting campaign.