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floda Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 03:40 PM
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Northern Iraq's Main Oil Pipeline Hit In Fresh Blast
AFP: 8/5/2004
KIRKUK, Iraq, Aug 5 (AFP) - Northern Iraq's main pipeline connecting the oil fields of Kirkuk with the Turkish port of Ceyhan came under fresh attack Thursday, while sabotage at a natural gas pipeline used by a power station was expected to interrupt electricity.

"An explosion occurred at 4:10 pm (1210 GMT) on the pipeline linking Kirkuk to Ceyhan but the fire was rapidly contained, since (the pipeline) was not working due to sabotage from two days earlier," Ardam Hussein, the head of firefighters for the Northern Oil Company, told AFP.

On Tuesday, a handmade explosive device blew up next to a network of pipes west of Kirkuk, forcing the shutdown of all exports.

The key northern artery had resumed work only two days earlier, following 10 months out of commission due to sabotage, and was carrying 200,000 barrels a day.

more...

http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=23871
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 03:43 PM
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1. Good
I find myself at the point where I'm hoping al Sadr kicks the US' ass out of there.

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 03:49 PM
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2. N. Iraq wouldn't be Sadr; "insurgency" instead
Sadr's down in the south, around Najaf, Karbala, etc. The big, big Shia mosques.
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 03:58 PM
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4. The Bushies want the oil. Pipelines blowing up will divert coalition
energies there, and al-Sadr et al will dig in. I only hope the diversion doesn't misdirect attention to potential attacks here at home. The phony alerts are already taking too much time from other important business, like the country's self-defense.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 03:53 PM
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3. If your talking sabotage, I agree w/ you
If you're talking about dead American soldiers (or even dead Iraqi insurgents), then I couldn't disagree more wholeheartedly.
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 04:05 PM
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6. Oh, I think we've had quite enough killing, on both sides of the fence
Edited on Thu Aug-05-04 04:09 PM by SodoffBush
Only way to end the mayhem is get the US out of Iraq. Only way to do that is to make Americans believe that Iraq is a losing battle and huge mistake. Sadly and pathetically, Americans are only going to feel that Iraq is a lost cause when the bodycount increases to their definition of an "unacceptable" level for "liberating" a bunch of people who hate our ever-lovin' guts. Using the old WWII argument, perhaps an increase in the body count now translates into fewer dead in the long run.

There's a part of me that admires the Iraqi partisans. They are undermanned, underfunded, lacking all the modern warfare equipment, have had megatons of bombs dropped on them, been tortured (to death), and are up against the meanest sons of bitches the world has ever seen. And they've all but regained control of the country.

What the hell are Americans spending all these billions on defense for, if our military can't do diddly-squat against a rag-tag militia?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 05:02 PM
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7. Yup.
And is there ANY valid reason for this billion dollar military to be engaging the rag-tag militia in the first place?
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:20 PM
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12. What about a captured USGeneral in Fallujah
A POW General on Al Jazeera in a few days.

The US?-I'd stop this at all costs

http://www.jihadunspun.com/index-side_internal.php?article=12611&list=/home.php


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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:47 PM
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14. a lot of people will have to die before that happens i fear
but it will be mostly civilians as always since the advent of the industrial age and considering our dire requirements - OIL - it will most likely be even WORSE than vietnam.

in NANKING the imperial japanese military had the same issues... they also used the term ILLEGAL COMBATANTs to deny their victims DUE PROCESS.



peace
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 04:04 PM
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5. $50 a barrel oil and $2.50 a gallon of gas by October
So is the media going to talk about this or rehash Kerry's Vietnam service?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 05:45 PM
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8. It's all the Dem's fault, according to Cheney
:eyes:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 05:47 PM
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9. This won't spike oil by itself.
It already caused a spike when it was blown up two days earlier.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:33 PM
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11. It was out of commission for ten (10) months.
"The key northern artery had resumed work only two days earlier, following 10 months out of commission due to sabotage, and was carrying 200,000 barrels a day."
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:48 PM
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15. See this?
"An explosion occurred at 4:10 pm (1210 GMT) on the pipeline linking Kirkuk to Ceyhan but the fire was rapidly contained, since (the pipeline) was not working due to sabotage from two days earlier," Ardam Hussein, the head of firefighters for the Northern Oil Company, told AFP.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:22 PM
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10. when do they start guarding the pipeline?
and the syrian border.

what, 130,000 isn't enough? you swore up & down it was.
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:38 PM
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13. No Nation State has ever defeated 4th GenAsymmetric Warfare
Our Army is being destroyed in Iraq by
war criminals in DC. This is not the Art of War.

This is Sun Tzu:
When there is recourse to armed conflict:
a) shortest time possible
b) least possible cost lives effort
c) infliction on the enemy of fewest possible casualties

National unity is essential

Imagine our hubris from a World POV that we can take over
Saudi fields.

$50 dollar/bbl crude by Labor Day.



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