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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:22 AM
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Keyes' candidacy will expose rift within GOP | St Louis Post-Dispatch
Keyes' candidacy will expose rift within GOP

By Kevin McDermott
Post-Dispatch Springfield Bureau
08/08/2004

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. - At one point during last week's Republican leadership gathering in Chicago, the debate over conservative activist Alan Keyes grew so contentious that journalists standing outside the closed doors heard - and reported - the shouting.

The Illinois Republican State Central Committee later barred reporters from the entire floor where they were meeting to choose their party's new candidate for the U.S. Senate.

But with Keyes' candidacy likely to become official Sunday, it will be much tougher for Republican leaders to hide the internal strife in their divided party.

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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:27 AM
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1. The Illinois pukes should
forget Keyes and go for someone with more staying power like a Mike Ditka. Oops!!!!!! What a bunch of mouth breathing knuckle dragging fucktards.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:27 AM
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2. When on Sun. is this announcement to happen?
I agree, Keyes can be very divisive in the Pub party, but they're playing a good "waiting game" with everyone.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:34 AM
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3. I'm predicting he won't run
it was his ploy to raise cash for his renew Merika foundation.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:42 AM
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4. It's supposed to be at 2 pm central
At the local restaurant/meeting hall our office goes out to lunch at every friday, less than a mile from where I sit.

Should I try ot go and disrupt?
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:45 AM
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5. Keyes' candidacy is a great opportunity for democrats to exploit
divisions in the republican party. This race will be given a lot of national media attention. Democrats all over the country should constantly refer to Keyes as a main stream republican, representing the values of all true republicans and the republican party.

Keyes is nearly as mentally unbalanced as Bush and is so manaical and extremist that millions of republicans all over the country will resent being identified with him. Bush might even try to distance himself from Keyes. The Reich wing fundamentalists will howl with hatred of any republican who criticizes Keyes on the issues.

Another possibility is to quote Keyes' criticisms of Bush as often as possible. This could cause some Reich wingers' heads to explode since they love Keyes but worship the LordGodBush.

This race can be used to sow some serious seeds of discord within the republican party and maybe start an internal struggle that will lead to the end of the control that the Reich wing fundamentalists have over the party.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:15 PM
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7. Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 12:27 PM by calimary
You know that old saying - "DIVIDE AND CONQUER"?

Here is a 24-karat GOLDEN opportunity.

We should take EVERY opportunity to refer to Keyes as the REAL face of the republi-CON party - extremist, radical-wrong, carpetbagger, exploiter, fundamentalist, 13th-Century thinking, phony. As the article itself said - "represents the right wing of the right wing of the Republican party."

Snippy, I really can't add much to anything you posted here. It's cheneying BRILLIANT. Keyes is the key to victory - for DEMOCRATS. Just watch how moderate they try to paint themselves at their convention, how they'll bring people out who represent a fraction of their party. They dare not show their true faces. Keyes IS their true face. If they won't show it, maybe we need to HELP them.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:31 PM
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9. Snippy's post here is the Post of the Day. Maybe Post of the YEAR.
Read, memorize, apply.

Here is a FABULOUS, UNASSAILABLE campaign tactic for grassroots efforts OR conventional campaigns. The Keyes template can be applied to most, if not ALL republi-CONS - ACROSS THE BOARD. And of course, ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:46 AM
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6. We ain't votin for no damned N**g*r
I'm sure was heard at least a few times in their meeting.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:34 PM
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17. I guess it's tacky to call him a carpetbagger, huh?
I do love that delicious quote of his when he was lambasting Hillary for just the same thing...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:28 PM
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8. Thousands of racists will NOT vote if Keyes is the GOP nominee.
Nominating Keyes will be the biggest political blunder since they must rely on these racists to vote their party in. I've only been to Chicago (awesome city!), but I've read that there are a lot of KKK etc. in Southern Illinois. If this is true, then as soon as they put Keyes's name and FACE on the ticket, Obama will have already won.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:41 PM
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10. This is sooooo cooooool!
Watching the 'pukes self de-struct is better than sex! The chimp is sinking & even faux has to report it in the polls. Hooo Weee!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:45 PM
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11. Keyes could easily become the final nail in the GOP coffin
It is imperative for Obama's future that Keyes get less than 38.2% of the vote. 38.2% of the vote is what Keyes took against Paul Sarbanes in his bid to oust Sarbanes from the Maryland U.S. Senate seat in 1988.

If we play our cards right, Keyes will get less than 29% of the vote. 29% of the vote is what Keyes took in his failed bid to oust Barbara Mikulski from the other Maryland U.S. Senate seat in 1992.

If everything goes perfect, Keyes will come in third behind the Libertarian candidate, Jerry Kohn. I've been pointing Illinois pro-life Republicans who are very upset at a carpetbagger candidate to Jerry Kohn's web site. Unlike many Libertarians, Kohn is pro-life. This candidate has been received with positive reactions from the Republicans I've pointed his way.

A third place finish for a high profile nationally known carpetbagger would decimate the Illinois Republican Party, possibly irreparably. The assholes in the Republican SCC don't realize that a Keyes candidacy was the best possible thing they ever could do for the Democratic Party in Illinois and may well seal the future for a Barack Obama presidency.

Thank goodness we have foolish dunces in charge of the Illinois Democratic Party. The asinine crap spewed by Keyes will damage Bush as well as he will be forced to endorse the vile man.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:55 PM
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12. I want KKKeyes to be the BEST anchor of all time.
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 12:56 PM by The Zanti Regent
I want KKKeyes to be so good as an anchor that he DOES come in third to the Libertarian AND he takes down the Four WHORESEMEN of the Illinois GOP--Hyde Hastert, La Hood and Crane--with him!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:01 PM
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14. Switch the first letters of those names
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 02:34 PM by JNelson6563
Jerry Kohn
Kerry John

heh ;-)
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:38 PM
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16. Have they ever been seen together?)
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:42 PM
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13. non sequitur
"Given that the media is fawning over Barack Obama, we needed somebody who already had a base - and Alan Keyes has a national base - somebody who could hit the ground running," said Steve McGlynn of Belleville, co-chairman of the GOP Central Committee."

Only residents of the state of Illinois are going to vote for him, not the nation. Doesn't matter what he does in the rest of the nation--they don't vote in Illinois.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:02 PM
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15. You're right which makes them idiots
Only residents of the state of Illinois are going to vote for him, not the nation. Doesn't matter what he does in the rest of the nation--they don't vote in Illinois.

Exactly right. Yet they point to a national base like would help him, if it existed that is.

Julie
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:37 PM
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18. It surprises me how often political "experts" cannot distinguish
between primary voters (base voters) and general election voters. There's a big difference. You're certainly right.
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