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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:41 PM
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White House Blames High Energy Prices On Kerry, Edwards
http://www.international.nasdaq.com/asp/gmWorldNews.asp&headl">By Alex Keto, Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES


The Bush administration Monday blamed Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry and his running mate, Sen. John Edwards, for the high cost of energy.

White House Spokesman Scott McClellan argued that if the Senate had not held up the president's package of energy legislation, the country would be in better shape when confronted by rising energy costs.

Kerry and Edwards were among the senators who voted against the energy package. ..

McClellan said the energy legislation, which seeks to boost domestic production among other measures, would have helped smooth the boom-bust cycle in oil prices.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:42 PM
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1. Uh...war? Idiots. nt
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:42 PM
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2. Tis funny.........who controls.the house .the senate....
gripes......will these idiots never learn?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:53 PM
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12. But the Brutalizer as Victim mentality is essential to the Totalitarian
Mentality.

I mean, could the Nazis have maintained their Cobcentration Camps unless they felt, as Busheviks do for largely the same programmed reasoning, that their victim who were powerless, were actually all-powerful Victimizers of the Barbarous Brutalizers like the Nazis or Busheviks.

Think about it, for a Nazi or Bushevik, a scapegoat is IMPERATIVE since these similar Totalitarians are INCAPABLE of error or wrongdoing.

It is the same mentality with both.

Identical. Not a nickle's worth of difference.

At least our Kinder and Gentler Nazis are rounding people up yet.

That's what makes them Kinder and Gentler, not their philosphical beliefs and the certainty that they are being victimized, even as they control just about everything.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:13 PM
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45. I thought Gas Oil Petroleum was the ruling party. eom
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BentleyJD Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:43 PM
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3. I think...
That not too many people are going to buy this garbage
Thats really quite pathetictake care tony and dietrich
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:52 PM
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8. Only about 50 % of the people will not believe it
The other 50 won't even hear it or read it. Ostriches...
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 09:17 PM
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44. They aren't all bad....
Ostriches that is....they mean well....they are usually quick studies. Helping them along is a good idea.

:hippie:
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:46 PM
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4. Then it would be best to elect
Kerry and Edwards so they have to deal with it. :evilgrin:
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:52 PM
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7. Damn, you beat me to it. This makes a great opening for Kerry
to accept the WH at their word and since bush*/cheaty are unwilling to do anything about it, Kerry/Edwards will!!
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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:47 PM
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5. What a joke! LOL
His "energy" package is a burning bag of pooh left at the front door of America and he wants us to answer the doorbell-Not once did he mention conservation or immediate tax incentives to reduce our SUV greedy and bloated economy which is preparing to jones through eternal high oil prices-Time for America to sober up and lay off the crude pipe-just say no!
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:47 PM
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6. they just turn attention to the FACT that the GOP controls
the House and Senate
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:53 PM
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13. We're lucky that horrible legislation was killed
Republican senators like Chafee and Snowe helped block it as well.

It would have opened up much of the Rocky Mountains to oil and gas drilling.

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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:52 PM
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9. Bush* economic policy has tanked the dollar, making oil and
everything more expensive. The price of oil is up less in Europe and Japan where the local currency is strong.

Even though buyers must use dollars to purchase oil, OPEC has let the dollar price move up so that their revenues remain relatively stable against a basket of currencies. At least to the extent that they can.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 03:35 PM
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30. exactly, why is no one addressing that shit?
dollar is weak, oil priced in dollars. profits down, must make up somehow. who let the dollar tank? it begins with a B.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 04:14 PM
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34. I don't know why the dollar's woes aren't cited as a factor.
The weak dollar seems never to be cited even though it has caused prices to go up for items not imported from China and other countries that peg their currency to the dollar.

Yet I don't think that the weak dollar explains the entire problem. Current supply cannot keep up with increasing global demand, particularly from developing economies like China and India.

After considerable study, I think that peak oil either has arrived or will arrive in the next few years, which should further tank our dollar and raise prices world wide.

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:52 PM
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10. Nope, sorry, this is Unca Dick's issue
he is the one who actively DISCOURAGED conservation, which would save millions of gallons a month:



http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,127219,00.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnists/wickham/2001-05-07-wickham.htm

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/news/oregonian/wr_11power13.frame
Environmental groups have seized on Cheney's remark in a speech last month that conservation, while "a sign of personal virtue," can't provide the answer for the "crisis" of supply that's behind the nation's energy problems.
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Tardisian Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:53 PM
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11. What...
they're not blaming the Clinton Administration anymore? ROTFLMAO
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 03:25 PM
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29. My first thought, too
This may be the first time ever that they didn't blame "Klintoon" or "Hitlery."!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:57 PM
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14. Hahahahahahahah!
This is a message to the dittoheads. They are so well dittoed.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:58 PM
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15. Who blocked drilling off the the Florida gulf coast?
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 01:59 PM
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16. The last I knew......
republicans were in control. That's why everything is in such bad shape. :kick:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:00 PM
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17. Once again, Kerry's super-vote can make or break any bill
Bush has a new mantra: John Kerry's vote is the only one that matters - not congress, not the president, not the rest of the Senate. John Kerry alone can make or break any bill.

John Kerry is the most powerful Senator in the history of America. Isn't that alone enough to get him elected?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 04:08 PM
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32. One Powerful Vote that Kerry Vote-especially since Bu$h Co points out
how Kerry never shows up...its so powerful it works remotely from far distances...

Right...they are blaming everyone but themselves...and last I checked, didn't the GOP control Congress and the Senate? Weren't there Senators from the GOP who blocked that bill?
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:02 PM
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18. is there a link?
thanks
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:04 PM
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19. Does anyone have the bill #?
I'm sure when we look it up we'll find it took more than those 2 votes to defeat it, ya think???

What has Scottie been smoking?

But, sadly, people will buy this. :shrug:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:11 PM
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20. OMFG
I was about to alert on you, thinking this couldn't have been the friggin headline. But it is!!!!
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JETS Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:24 PM
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21. The "party of personal responsibility"
strikes again. How come they're not blaming Clinton as well? Don't tell me the statute of limitations on Clinton blame has expired.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:47 PM
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22. I have an upset stomach

Probably Kerry and Edwards doing
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:47 PM
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23. This is about as credible as anything coming out of this administration
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:16 PM
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39. EVERYTHING
is always someone else's fault. Dave Letterman forced that kid to yawn and scratch by remote control just so he could take a cheap shot at *fearless leader! It's TREASON I tell you!

These *clowns take responsibility for ZIP and to date the electorate has yet to hold them accountable for ANYTHING. This is so far beyond REEEEEEEDICKULUS!!! Scottie, BEAM ME UP!!!
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:49 PM
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24. My next door neighbor
looked really hung over this morning, gotta be Kerry and Edwards' fault.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:55 PM
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25. Didn't they do this last week, too?
Edited on Mon Aug-09-04 02:55 PM by hatrack
As I recall, as soon as everyone wiped off their computer and TV screens, they promptly changed the channel.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 03:09 PM
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26. You mean the energy policy designed by Enron for Enron. One
would have to be below 50 IQ to pass that sludge producing garbage forged in secret with secret corps.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 03:17 PM
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27. hahahahahaha.
poor widdow bush. the democwats wecked evwything!
awl he can do now is hide behind waura!

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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 03:20 PM
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28. In other words,
Kerry is almost as powerful as Clinton's penis!
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 03:38 PM
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31. You mean the omnipotent Clenis isn't to blame? n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 04:11 PM
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33. what part of this energy policy?
Which part exactly of this energy policy would have saved oil prices? The part where oil companies pay $0 taxes?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 04:14 PM
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35. Do they really want to open that can of worms again? Oh please do!!!
Let's get back into that Cheney Energy Task force question, PLEASE!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 04:26 PM
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36. Dear President Shitferbrains,
If your energy package was so great, how come republicans even voted against it?
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:06 PM
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40. avatar
I keep looking and looking. I give. What is that? It kind of looks like an elephant wearing formal wear.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:14 PM
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41. Myrmecophaga tridactyla
or Giant Anteater.

Just what I need in my kitchen! :)
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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 04:28 PM
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37. more Bush bullshit
Bush's Iraq war which is destabilizing the Persian Gulf, of course, has nothing to do with oil prices. Neither does a dysfunctional market which is prone to panic.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 04:30 PM
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38. Well that ought to stick to Kerry and Edwards like a rubber ball thrown
at a brick wall!
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 08:16 PM
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42. ROTFLMBAO....These jackasses are just to funny....What next!
Edited on Mon Aug-09-04 08:40 PM by Tight_rope
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 08:47 PM
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43. Talk about a "smaller government".. TWO senators have "control"
and "power" over EVERYTHING in DC..

WOW..they ARE supermen :)
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zuzu98 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:31 PM
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46. Remember when * campaigned in 2000 and smirkingly bragged
about his ability to "pick up the phone" and call OPEC to tell them to "turn on the spigots?" Back then, high energy prices were caused by a "failure in leadership." Now it's two senators from the minority party. Geez.
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Green Lantern Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:54 PM
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47. Thanks
I needed a good laugh.

No more Bushwa
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:03 PM
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48. Whenever they try to blame Democrats
for high energy prices, I post RFK Jrs assesment:

"President Carter passed CAFE standards in response to the second oil crisis in 1979. Those standards were directed towards getting our country up from 20 to 40 miles per gallon by 1990. Within six years, we had raised average fuel economy by seven-and-a-half miles per gallon. That efficiency caused an oil glut in this country, collapsing the price of gasoline to the lowest levels in decades. Oil companies went to the Reagan administration and persuaded them to roll back CAFE standards. The Gingrich Congress subsequently made it illegal for the government to pass them. In 1986 we doubled imports from the Persian Gulf and they've been going up ever since. If Reagan hadn't done that we would not have imported one drop of Gulf oil into this country after 1986."

Had the Carter standards stayed in force, we would have stopped importing oil by 1991.

Now what was that about Kerry and Edwards not supporting Bush's $34 billion dollar payoff to his contributors?

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