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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 01:57 AM
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Cheney Slams Kerry 'Sensitive' War Plea
Can you spell d-e-s-p-e-r-a-t-i-o-n?

"Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) is opening a new attack on John Kerry (news - web sites), saying America will not defeat its enemies by fighting a 'more sensitive' war on terror, as Kerry called for last week."

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"He was referring to a statement Kerry made a week ago to a minority journalists' convention. Perhaps coincidentally, a questioner at a town hall meeting asked about the same statement a day earlier.


A week ago, Kerry said: 'I believe I can fight a more effective, more thoughtful, more strategic, more proactive, more sensitive war on terror that reaches out to other nations and brings them to our side and lives up to American values in history.'"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040812/ap_on_el_pr/cheney&cid=694&ncid=1963&sid=96378798

I'm a stupid idiot who is afraid to debate the real issues.


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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:05 AM
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1. Cheney's lost all credibility. He can't control himself. How does he
expect us to believe he can control the Iraqis?
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slojim240 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:30 PM
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36. Anybody tell Cheney that the 9/11 report said the same thing Kerry did?
I wonder is "go- F***-yourself has read the report?
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:30 AM
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2. it was only a few weeks ago
that the fool was babbling on about WMD in Iraq!!! And now we have a former Iraqi official who states that Saddam disbanded the program after '91.

I would be embarrassed to come out of my hiding place if I were he.


Cher

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:40 AM
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3. All this wisdom coming from a 5 X deferred draft dodger...nt
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:09 PM
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12. And a 4 X DUI guy! LOTS of credibility! N/T
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:43 AM
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4. Somebody hand this thug his pink slip.
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 04:04 AM by Buzzz
Thanks.

It's comical to see Mr. Other Priorities boldly trying to instruct Mr. War Hero on the ins and outs of how to fight a war. Poor Dick is a one trick pony: stupid macho brute force, which indeed sometimes works out in big wide open desert battles.
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:46 AM
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5. Bush and Cheney are inducing "terrorism" in Iraq
Most of the insurgents are Iraqis fighting back against Bush's invasion and occupation. There seem to also be some terrorists that have been drawn to Iraq.

The Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld claim that they are fighting terrorism is totally false. It has also been noted by many others that their actions are helping al-Qaeda to recruit new fighters.

It was reported several years ago on BBC that bin Laden wanted oil to sell for $50/bbl. That was one of the reasons he got support from some Saudis.

Now Bush/Cheney have pushed oil up to about $45/bbl.

Do you suppose that bin Laden will send Bush and Cheney a thank-you note when oil hits the $50 mark?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:55 AM
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8. bu$h and Cheney are the Terrorists! (n/t)
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:49 AM
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6. *Cheney* Cheney...
...and the horse's ass he rode in on!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:52 AM
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7. these planted questions are not getting nearly enough attention
the contrast in phoniness between Bush and Kerry should be a huge story in this election.

A Bush-Cheney campaign official said it was a coincidence that the issue of a "more sensitive" war came up a day before Cheney made it a centerpiece of a speech. During a forum with Cheney and his wife, Lynne, in Joplin, Mo., a questioner asked Mrs. Cheney "what in the world" Kerry was thinking about when he called for a more sensitive war.


"I just kind of shook my head when I heard that," Lynne Cheney said. "With all due respect to the senator, it just sounded so foolish. I can't imagine that al-Qaida is going to be impressed by sensitivity."

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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 06:32 PM
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33. LOL, that is funny. Of course there are plenty of questions asked
wherein the questioner has a specific agenda in mind.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:58 AM
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9. "Start spreading the news...I'm leaving today..."
That photo makes it look like he's appearing in a Las Vegas show.

"Ol' beady eyes"

Either that or it's the "Dick Cheney Telethon."

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:58 AM
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10. Go F*** Yourself Cheney. Go to Jail, do not pass Go.
Go Directly to Jail, you lying lowlife maggot infested piece of shite.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com
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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:04 PM
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11. What did JFK mean by "sensitive war" anyway?
???
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iam Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:12 PM
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13. He meant
listening to our allies.
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:15 PM
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14. This one's too easy...
...

"Mr Vice President, with all due respect, what do you know about how wars are won, considering you were too chickenshit scared to ever serve in one?"

I'm not worried about this, even though CNN obscenely displayed it on their front page. Nobody is listening to a word Ol' Go-Fuck-Yourself is saying.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:18 PM
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15. Kerry Was Clearly Speaking About Sensitivity to Allies NOT the Enemy.
Perhaps Dick Cheney doesn't understand English...certainly, the idiot he works for can't speak it.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:27 PM
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16. dupe
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 12:28 PM by Canuckistanian
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:27 PM
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17. Exactly!
Sensitivity to allies, non-combatants, innocent civilians and Arab culture in general would go a long way in ensuring success.

Painting everybody with the either the "terrorist" or "friend of terrorist" brush is not helping anything.
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:39 PM
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18. I read it as sensitive to the issues that will ensure a more effective
war on terror.
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:17 PM
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19. "Cheney called instead for a completely insensitive, even senseless war"
:nuke:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 06:26 PM
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32. You mean like...
if you're not with us your against us?

If you don't give us access for our military operations we will cut off your foreign aid?
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:21 PM
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20. Sensitivity is better than stupidity
and all we have got from Cheney and his cronies is arrogance, stupidity and greed.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:21 PM
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21. this is all he's got?
he's watching Kerry speeches and looking for something, anything, even single words, around which to build a phony controversy?

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:15 PM
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23. It's that 24/7 Repub operation in Virginia someone posted an article...
about a while back. A bunch of young dorks, volunteers, wearing suits and ties, watch a bank of TVs 24/7, and listen for any phrase that can be taken out of context. Then its blast-faxed to the press, who usually eat it up, making it a big story. This word "sensitive," I guess, didn't make it to the press but went right to Crashcart Cheney to blast.

Dear God, help us rid ourselves of these miscreants.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:13 PM
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22. Randi Rhodes is chewing him up and
spitting him out over this right now. These people are such lying f*cks.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:18 PM
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24. I like the sensitivity Kerry demonstrated to the kid in a loincloth
who also happened to be holding a rocket launcher.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:26 PM
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25. Coming from Cheney the War Profiteer?????
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:33 PM
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26. Randi Just Quoted GWB Saying The Same Thing In 2001, LOL!!
when he was dedicating something or other -- I think a nuke-powered vessel of some kind, that we are so strong it's important we be sensitive, did anybody else hear that??
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 06:04 PM
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31. This was even mentioned on the (constantly disgruntled) Brit
Hume show. The press actually pointed it out. What do you want to bet that this wil be the last time we hear this. It's going to go the way of "we've turned the corner".

These people are pathetic.

Vickie W. Carter
Redondo Beach, CA
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chuckhoward Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:48 PM
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27. for a response,
go to www.johnkerry.com and click on the Rapid Response link. The campaign has already dealt with this. We just need to get it out.

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takumi Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:52 PM
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28. "Sensitive"
Let's ask Bush if he even knows what the word means!!!!!!!
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:53 PM
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29. How much could Cheney know about fighting a war
He has never even been close to fighting a war, and he is too big a crook to be chastising anyone like Kerry, who is a brave patriot.
Go back to your dugout, Cheney, and take George with you. Let the big boys handle this mess you got us in.
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takumi Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:53 PM
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30. "Sensitive"
Kerry should slam BOTH BUSH AND CHENEY on this one!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 06:44 PM
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34. Typical simplistic nonsense from Mr. Hidey-Hole
Notice how Cheney hears the word "sensitive" and he can concentrate on nothing else, merely spewing Bush administration boilerplate about how evil our enemies are.

Why is it that the Bush administration seems to love to talk about beheading, rape, torture, etc.? They seem to positively get off on this, but I digress.

Anyway, if Cheney ever bothered to read the papers and/or the best-seller lists, he'd know there's a little tome called "Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror." The book, by an unnamed member of the CIA, puts the lie to the Bush notion that the terrorists "hate us for our freedoms." No, they hate us for our policies, and the administration would do well to understand the whole environment in which an Osama bin Laden can attract a following.

What scares me most about this administration is that they seem almost wilfully ignorant, as though they can't be bothered to study any situation in a complex fashion. They talk merely in platitudes and comparisons, and never fail to praise themselves as having done an excellent job. And as James Wolcott puts it, they're never sorry and they're never wrong.

Cheney's cute little sound bites may make him feel like a big man and make his listeners laugh, but the comments are ignorant, shallow and ultimately short-sighted. That someone that shallow and ignorant could "rise" this far is truly terrifying and dangerous.

And by the way, I just sent an e-mail to CNN regarding their coverage of this. I urge all of you to contact your media outlets about this knee-jerk response of Cheney's.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 06:46 PM
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35. I like Kerry's response, as was mentioned on tonight's "The News Hour":
Something to the effect that someone needs to remind Cheney that "arrogance is not a virtue."
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:01 PM
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37. real man
yes, Cheney is a real man...a fat, sick CEO tool of a man. Macho all the way.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:06 PM
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38. Can't someone slam Cheney for being a jerk?
I can't stand his sneer and slanderous attacks!
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CookieD Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:10 PM
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39. Somewhere, a vacationing John Edwards ...
must be itching to get back onto the campaign trail. I cannot wait for Edwards to pulverize Cheney in their debate. :bounce:

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