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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 11:56 AM Original message |
CA Invalidates San Fran gay weddings |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. It was just announced on AAR, too. |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Added direct link and quote to original post N/T |
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freetobegay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is truley a sad day. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. It is only a minor setback...but yes, it is very sad.... |
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Surf Cowboy (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. You're right. |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. a battle lost but we will prevail |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. A lot of gays have voted Republican. The Republicans have stacked |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. True, and the CA Supremes haven't ruled on Gay Marriage, just the Mayor's |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I hope so. |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. How did they "stack the court"?? |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I thought Freepers hated CA courts.. |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. There's some difference between the state and federal courts |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Good point, Frodo... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
78. We had a Democratic governor for only 5 out of the last 20 years |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. thank you. and there are quite a few of them. |
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Surf Cowboy (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. Gays who vote Republican are just shooting themselves in the foot |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. I know several "married" CA Log Cabin Republicans...wonder what they |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. I'm not so convinced "a lot" of gays have |
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NewJerseyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. It appears to be unanimous to ban future same-sex marriages in CA |
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NewJerseyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. However, this doesn't apply to the constitutionality of the ban |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Don't count on that....this was merely a procedural ruling on authority |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Is it the court or the legislature and people? |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Well, its the courts job to determine constitutionality of laws & that is |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. You are correct |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 07:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
117. Deleted message |
Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Oh christ |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. Time for some major lawsuits... |
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Not Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. what's next? A challenge to the state constitution? |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Challenges have been filed and more to come....City of SF already filed |
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realFedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. Hope they don't have to give the gifts back.... |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. What are the "applicable" statutory provisions? |
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NewJerseyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I believe so |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I think it was around the "Defense of Marriage Act" time.. |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. How does that work? An Amendment CAN'T be contrary to the document |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Prop 22 in CA was not an amendment to the CA State Constitution |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Frodo, are you FOR an amendment to our Constitution? |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. I'm internaly divided on the matter. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. I understand how come Men are attracted to Men..... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I thought it was normal for men to be attracted to men... |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. If that were true... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. What is "gay six?" |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. ok |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. It's when you, me and 4 other of our friends decide to have fun :) |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. REALLY??? |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. Well, I'm the product of Lesbians with the use of sperm....and I'm |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Rick Santorum is gay. |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. ummmmmmmmm . . . |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. That would be "NOW". I said "if it WERE true". |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. But marriage is not defined by sexual activity. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. I saw that South Park episode |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
91. Ain't that the truth - I had more sex before marriage - w/ my now husband |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
114. Actually, they call that "swinging" and "wife swapping" too |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. With all due respect, You could have stuck with |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. No no no. I meant it more literally than that. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Fine, you don't get it, but.... |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. As I understand the proposal. The only difference is the name. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
76. But what about corrupting our Constitution? |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. ??? You're kidding, right? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. OK, let me ask you this |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
113. Ahhh. I see. |
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drmom (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
109. Frido, The thing about being gay is that I feel just like you do, but |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. I agree with you except one thing |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Wrong |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Hey, I was responding to a post that said it was an amendment, |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. They had to |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I wouldn't say that/ |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Wrong |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. I think you missed it |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. If the law is contrary to the CA constitution... |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Yes it is that simple |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
96. It is that simple? Then why worry? |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. <sigh> |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Prop 22 (Pete Knight) in 2001(?) CA version of DOMA N/T |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. He's dead too. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
115. FYI - Here's a resurrection of the Prop22 web site |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
49. Yes |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. Sadly, the courts almost had to vote this way... |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
54. Nope |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
100. Thank you, oh great one. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. Thank goodness they finally did this!!!!! |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. Yes, Western Civilization as we know it is saved. All of those folks |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Nope America - Bob & Bill are still together and so are Susi and Sally |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. I know what your saying! My husband was a wreck knowing that Gay |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
103. hot damn!! piddling cats due to . . . |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Amber... the color of Ashcroft's wig when he cross-dresses |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-13-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #106 |
123. good one !!! |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
17. So let me guess |
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Nile (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Not activist judges. |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
57. The battle is NOT over |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
60. That Seems A Pretty Convenient Interpretation, No? |
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Barret (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
79. Unfortunately with many people |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. That's My Point |
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GRClarkesq (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
18. This was expected and not that important |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. it was entirely unnecessary for them to void the marriages |
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Almost_there (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. But the courts left things open... |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Just the Paper - Those people are still married and will still be married |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. The Mass SC was Republican |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
39. Praise Jesus! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. American Christianity pushed me from religion altogether |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I hear ya bro! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Thanks for the shout. |
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niceperson (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
42. that's so sad |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
59. Those Whores on CNN just cut-off Gavin Newsom's press conference |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Grrr!!! |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Yep, literally cut him off as he started to mention Bu$h & Discrimination |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
62. And isn't it telling and fascinating how so many people |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. Gay marriage is a MUCH more important issue for all of us |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
63. Right wing activist judges are the REAL threat to marriage! |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #63 |
94. I wish they hadn't nullified those marriages, I think they had no choice |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
98. This is sad, but expected... |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
102. Whoa! The Governor of NJ just declared he is Gay! Watch out everyone |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. SEE!!! |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-13-04 01:19 AM Response to Reply #104 |
120. Hey, don't go insulting Transgenders or Cross dressers.... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-13-04 02:05 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. I wish they would all come out of the closet already! |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. The AWB is only cosmetic for the most part |
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Corkey Mineola (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
107. F*CK Them: We're Still Married! |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Good for you! |
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Lavender Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Keep on fighting |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 08:05 PM Response to Reply #107 |
119. I personally support your marriage |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-13-04 01:46 AM Response to Reply #107 |
121. Yeah! Your married and still living together and there is nothing they |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
112. That's sad |
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BushLicks (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
116. When do we get to INVALIDATE Those Enron & Harken Stock Trades |
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