Bush visit focuses on Republican core voters

[4dsc]

sheeple will believe anything!!

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040814/NEWS09/408140341/1001/NEWS

What we're doing to talk to swing voters is the same thing we're doing to talk to our Republican voters," Bush's national campaign manager, Ken Mehlman, said.

"And that's to talk about the president's leadership and how that leadership is helping to change our government to be able to deal with the new challenges we face today," Mehlman said in an interview with The Des Moines Register.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. The more important point:

Bush is not, if we are to believe most reports, doing a hell of a lot to reach out to new voter possibilities. Instead, he has been having to re-plow old ground, working to shore up his base and not hemmorhage people from the pool of voters considered his base. This entails a not-inconsiderable expenditure of time, money and effort. This also answers the questions on why his rallys are all on thought lockdown: he does not want anything to distract those people as he pumps smoke up their butts.

They are deathly afraid of losing base and are working to keep it from happening. That is not healthy. That is not how you win.

Meanwhile, on The Hustings, Kerry and Edwards are drawing huge crowds of new faces. People are coming out of the woodwork.

[truthisfreedom]

2. i like that phrase. thought lockdown. that is exactly what mode rove/bush

is in right now. nothing new... just keeping the base from considering options... it's fear-based. they are now victims of their own fear-mongering.

[Jawja]

5. And I like the

phrase "blow smoke up their butts"

That is right on.

My Mom and I were talking last night and we were wondering how * is going to win the election if he only talks to screened supporters that are bused in and already agree with his BS.

Short answer: BIG MEDIA, as they are blowing smoke up OUR butts.

[goforit]

8. Well, I hope these new faces know this is their time to bear down!!!!

It is their future and their children's future.

[radfringe]

17. NPR reported

on bush*'s recent Larry King interview

one thing struck me -- bush* said that he had to explain his reasons for the Iraq invasion etter

my thought - if after 16+months bush* still has to explain why we invaded, isn't that indicative the original pile of bush*t reasons were'nt valid?

[ronatchig]

3. Last night on CBS

evening news I saw the first network report of Thugs' screening of audiences- it was quite scathing for a network broadcast. The best part is that bush has preach to the choir for rear of facing the truth. Thought control , image management, are their stock in trade but it is a LOSER.

[Bullshot]

4. If Bush is still focusing on core Republican voters at this stage,

he's in bigger trouble than the media stooges are leading us to believe.

It's agreed that Bush and Kerry are about even on the hardcore voters from their respective parties, and the election will be won by the candidate who takes the most swing voters.

Kerry is campaigning coast-to-coast in open rallies and allowing people to hear his message and make their decision from there.

Bush is speaking to smaller restricted audiences, and appears to be doing little more than preaching to the choir to his voter bases that he's locked up since the beginning of this campaign.

[Jawja]

7. Yes, and

the * campaign is staging the photography through stage lighting that produces pictures that are deceptive on the size of audiences.

Compare the Kerry campaign photos of the huge sea of people greeting Kerry and Edwards to the photos of the * events. * is always center stage, bathed in bright light, and the house lights are down on the audience. In fact, lots of times, you don't SEE an audience much, except to see the veterns on the front row.

[goforit]

6. Preaching to the fascist choir to........go out n steal every vote!!!

[Cocoa]

9. do results still matter?

probably for the best from Bush's point of view that they dropped that slogan.

[Bruce McAuley]

10. Last night Bush met 300 people, Kerry had 50,000 in the crowd..

Bush was at Medina, Wash., the richest square mile in the entire state. He met with 300 of the "choir" in a tent heavily guarded and no protesters anywhere in sight or sound. News reports this morning say he raised $2.4 million last night.
Kerry had an enthusiastic crowd of 50,000 in Portland, and plans to windsurf the Columbia Gorge today. No reports on how much he collected.

Bruce

[mom cat]

11. Your post says it all. Thanks!

:toast: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast::dem:

[Strelnikov_]

12. Because They Only Need 45% Of The Vote To 'Win'

They know they only need to get the 'base' out to pick up 40%+ of the vote, plus they will shave off another 5% +/- of those on the fringe.

So, while in the past a 52%-45%-3% split in the electorate would result in a Kerry landslide, I am afraid that this time it will result in a Boosh 'victory', because the 45% will get the election close enough to steal.

And the above 52% for Kerry assumes no October surprise, which I fully expect. As Eleanor Clift pointed out, Boosh holds the cards when it comes to controlling events.

If the October surprise does not work as expected, I expect the election to be 'won' again in the courts. The election will not be stolen directly by BBV as many fear. Conversely, in the ensuing electoral chaos caused by BBV, the GOP will select key 'swing' states to force the issue into court in order to force the selection of electors into the State legislatures (of course, these 'key' states will have GOP majorities in the legislature). If this fails, the Supreme Court will be used, as was successful in the past.

Sorry to be such a wet blanket, but that's the way I see it. I still plan to do what I can for a Kerry victory, and may be pleasantly surprised, but when it comes to dirty dealing, the GOP are masters.

On the bright side, the silver lining of a Boosh victory will be destruction of the GOP/right-wing for at least a generation. In other words, they won't be able to pin Kerry with the economic/foreign policy debacles coming in the next few years.

Which leads to another theory on why they are only working the base. Could it be that they don't want to win?

[Pepperbelly]

13. disagree at least in part...

you wrote: "As Eleanor Clift pointed out, Boosh holds the cards when it comes to controlling events."

While true to some extent, what is just as true is how vulnerable he is to the rea world intruding when he doesn't want it to. For example, the shitty job-creation numbers, the slowing economy, battle field reversals, terrorist attacks all have the possibility of hammering his deluded supporters back into the real world.

[Strelnikov_]

14. Excellent Point, Particularly Regarding "Battle Field Reversals"

considering the events unfolding in Iraq.

[johnfunk]

15. Do Republican Core Voters Embrace Republican Core Values?

• War for petrobusiness
• Shift the burden of taxation to working Americans and families
• Privatize education and the military
• Lie with impunity to the public
• Send out surrogates to smear Democrats
• Undermine and erase the esptablishment clause
• Politicize the courts, handing them over to business interests and evangelicals

[The Zanti Regent]

16. They're waiting for Jesus to come back

Most idiots voting for President Asshole have been brainwashed by the churches into believing all this rapture shit. They really believe that Jesus is coming in a week or 2 to take them away. I know all about this shit, since my whole family is brainwashed by assholes from the Assemblies of God or the shithead Southern Baptists!

If I had my way, all fucking churches would be put in the 99% tax bracket with no loopholes!

[Zorra]

18. I had a "discussion" with a republican woman yesterday.

She was so totally ignorant and irrational it was like speaking with a parrot. She said "Kerry doesn't defend anything". So I said, "What do you mean, specifically?". Then she repeats "Kerry doesn't defend anything." I then rephrased, "Can you tell me exactly what you mean by that, can you give me an example of what Kerry is not defending?". She repeated, "Kerry doesn't defend anything." She began to get frustrated and angry, so I purposely changed the subject. (Yes, you guessed it,the Scott Peterson and Kobe Bryant cases.)

There were 2 other Dems that overheard this conversation. We looked at each other and it was pretty hard for us not to start bursting into hysterical laughter. We later discussed how impossible it is to have an informed, intelligent discussion with a republican. It is almost always the same.

I am very well armed with factual information that I have printed out from credible sources, and try to have at least three items from different sources containing supporting information. When I ask a republican if s/he would like to see the evidence that supports my assertions, they always decline. I am not sure if this is because reading, and understanding what they read, is too difficult for them, or if it is because they are afraid to have their beliefs confronted with facts that are contrary to their irrational belief systems.

The problem is, this woman, IMO, is representative of the republican base. Her response was typical of responses that I get when I ask republicans about their beliefs. They believe what they believe, but they have no idea why they believe it. There are no facts or logic behind what they believe. They are ignorant of specific information and apparently lack the necessary logical thought processes to develop a genuinely rational belief system. Somehow they manage to function and survive, but basically, it seems that they live in some bizarre, irrational fairy tale world.

It is so simple for the RW media to brainwash the republican base with lies. They simply believe everything that Rush Limbaugh tells them to believe without question. They really are, almost universally, a flock of very dull sheep being misled to their own destruction.

Maybe there are some intelligent and rational republicans out there. I have not encountered any, and I've gone looking for them. I would love to meet one and have a genuine conversation with her/him.

[Bullshot]

19. Did you give her a cracker before she left?