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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:50 PM
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Democrats Pressure McGreevey to Leave Soon
TRENTON, N.J. - High-level New Jersey Democrats said Sunday that pressure is building among members of Gov. James E. McGreevey's own party for him to step down before his announced Nov. 15 resignation date.

A senior administration official and a Democratic consultant, both speaking on condition of anonymity, said several top Democrats are worried an FBI (news - web sites) investigation into the governor's same-sex relationship with a former aide will expose more politically damaging details.

"There's a deepening concern that it will get uglier and more damaging to the party. It's pressure for sooner rather than later," the consultant said.

Since McGreevey admitted having an affair with another man and announced his resignation Thursday, Republicans have called on him to step down immediately to prompt a special election to complete his term, which expires in January 2006.

more…
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=4&u=/ap/20040816/ap_on_re_us/governor_resigns
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:53 PM
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1. Are they crazy...No...lettem stay until Nov. He was set-up anyway!
Edited on Sun Aug-15-04 10:53 PM by Tight_rope
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:58 PM
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2. No. The Dems are on Bush's side. Haven't you noticed.? They need spines.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:01 PM
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3. Apparently all the high-level anonymous Dems are on Bush's side,
funny how that works isn't it?

I hope that he stays as long as he wants, I don't know enough about him but next time I talk to my grandmother, who lives in Jersey, I'll see what she thinks about it all.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:02 PM
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4. Bad tactic. Rumor has it state dems want John Corzine as candidate
for governor. That's the real reason they want McGreevey to step down.

Corzine's doing a good job as one of our senators. Who would replace him? Another democrat? Who exactly?

No, ride out the election for governor until November 2005.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 03:09 AM
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23. I want Corzine in the senate
He's had a liberal voting record.

I heard he's not too interested in being governor.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:02 PM
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5. McGreevey's approval rating up since his revelation
Poll: N.J. Governor's Approval Nudges Up After Disclosure of Homosexuality, Affair

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBLIB1PXXD.html

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - Gov. James E. McGreevey's approval rating has not suffered since he announced that he had an affair with a man and will resign in November, a new poll showed Sunday.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:05 PM
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6. He should stay.
Let him bring the party down a bit more. This should be a lesson to all "Log Cabin" Republicans. The Republican party does not want you. They will not stand by you. It's unimaginable to me how McGreevey could be a part of a party that does not and will not ever accept him for who he is.

We need Corzine in the Senate for a little while longer.
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Barret Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:50 PM
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16. Wait a minute
I thought he was a dem?
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:08 PM
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7. November is good enough
Who is the current President of the Senate?

L-

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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:12 PM
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9. Richard Codey.
Edited on Sun Aug-15-04 11:15 PM by mountainvue
30 years experience.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:18 PM
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10. Thanks
Don't know much about him though...

L-
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:09 PM
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8. Anonymous Dem sources
my ass. Let him stay.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:19 PM
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11. South Jersey Dems.
This could be a move against Codey(Essex County) getting in there and getting the inside track in the election, elbowing out Andrews. Andrews is not a SJ "Machine" Dem, but they will take what they can get.

There is a lot of tension, vis a vis North Jersey and South Jersey.

It also puts Corzine at a disadvantage, which would be another Andrews advantage. Corzine would have to scramble like the dickens and might not make the cut. Lotsa things on his plate. He's North Jersey, too.

At this point, the repukes have what? Schundler(Damaged goods...) and Lance(Uhhh...just "may" have the same problem as McG...). Otherwise, you can be sure the right might want to try to run some chuucklehead. Doherty(Brain Damaged-Hunterdon/Warren) has said he wants to run for Governor, supposedly, but no one is really sure. The laughter drowned out his full statement.

The DSC will be working to squash this tommorrow.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:22 PM
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12. Take this as bullshit...
and some local political manuevering.

The Democratic Party in NJ is run by a bunch of county leaders, many of whom hate each other. McG screwed over a couple of them in the past year or two, and grudges in NJ are legendary.

The deal is that if he quits sometime in September (I forget the exact date) a special election is called. If he quits after that, the Senate President serves the term until next year, when the regular election is held.

So, naturally, Republicans want him out now, and would try to get in this November. Some Democrats feel the same way, but most would want him to wait until at least after the deadline. An election for Governor at this poiint would be a bit dicey.

So, why wait until November?

Well, in NJ the Governor picks legislature leadership spots, and makes a vast number of other appointments. So... it makes a certain amount of sense for McG to wait until after the election to pay off a few debts.

This is Joisey, after all, where Machiavelli rules.



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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:27 PM
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13. He just has to make it past Sept. 2 (60 days before the election)
Then it goes all the way to November of NEXT YEAR.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:41 PM
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14. Anonymous Republican sources say Bush should resign immediatly
When are we going to see that article?

The liberal media.
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Barret Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:42 PM
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15. In other words
hand over the governorship to the repugs. How do these people get elected?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:57 PM
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17. I believe that this story is a GOP plant
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 12:03 AM by rocknation
because I don't believe it's possible for ANYONE to be this stupid.

The potential "ugliness" of any "further" details is all the more reason why McGreevey should stay put until after the election. I don't doubt that McGreevey has enemies within the party, and I realize the Dems may be in for further disgrace. But is it truly worth taking the risk of losing the governership to a Republican when the deputy governor would be safe until 2006?

Someone here suggested that South Jersey democrats are behind this. To want to take a gamble like that, they'd HAVE to be from around Atlantic City!

:headbang:
rocknation
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notbush Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:06 AM
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18. This ...following "the torch"
At some point people will flee the party just to get a candidate that can make it through their term, This doesn't bode well for the whole party.
I don't want a "drip, drip, drip" for 3 months that will, or can , hurt democrats at all levels come November.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:33 AM
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19. Better that we get dripped on than splattered with a GOP governor
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 12:35 AM by rocknation
As I said, it will be painful. But it's the lesser of the two evils.

:headbang:
rocknation
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notbush Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 01:10 AM
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20. I'm sorry but I see much bigger
ramifications from this.
Let me be blunt....Protecting this stupid asshole, piece of shit, could cost us the NJ house or senate.......
He's not worth it.
When they turn......they REALLY TURN.
Call me a pragmatist.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 02:19 AM
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21. if there's any proof that he did what his "lover" says he did, this could
end up as a major debacle. i wonder if he can last through sept 2.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 02:37 AM
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22. The only GOP plant are those Democratic "leaders"
that are constantly endorsing the GOP no matter what, whether they are in New Jersey asking that McGreevey steps down now, or in Washington saying that Porter Goss should be confirmed as CIA Director.

This is another example of no difference between the two parties!
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