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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:13 PM
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IDF Teaches US Soldiers Guerilla Response
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1092712292170
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0818-01.htm

Published on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 by The Jerusalem Post (Israel)

IDF Teaches US Soldiers Guerilla Response
by Margot Dudkevitch

In order to improve their skills and learn firsthand tactics adopted by the IDF in urban and guerilla warfare in the West Bank and Gaza, US Army units are undergoing training in the special anti-terror school located in the Adam base near Modi'in.

After completing their training, the units will return to Iraq. The IDF Spokesman said, "The army does not comment on cooperation with foreign armies," but did not deny US forces were currently training in Israel.

In November last year, US generals visited Israel to study tactics adopted by the IDF in its ongoing war against terror. A report in the New York Times claimed US military officials were studying the tactics and strategy used by IDF forces operating in the West Bank and Gaza within densely populated Palestinian areas.

US Army officials later adopted the IDF's policy of demolishing houses belonging to terrorists suspected of attacking US troops in Iraq, set up checkpoints similar to those in the West Bank, deployed sniffer dogs to seek out explosives, and in a number of cases arrested relatives of terror suspects to glean information.


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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:28 PM
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1. Oh that is just brilliant...
I love my tax dollars being spent to
train my fellow Amerikkkans in the military
to behave like barbarians against the civilians
in a country we have illiegally invaded.
"Here kids, take these bulldozer keys and
run over some people defending their land."
The Israeli connection is sure to
improve our popularity rating in Iraq- oh yeah...
BHN
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 04:56 PM
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11. From an earlier thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x759550

leftchick
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U.S. Says No Troops Training for Iraq in Israel

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&nci...


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But the U.S. embassy in Israel said it would not comment on any previous exercises with forces in the Jewish state -- a very sensitive issue for U.S. forces fighting Islamist insurgents in Iraq.


The Jerusalem Post said U.S. army units were being trained at the Adam special forces school near Modi'in in central Israel on guerrilla and urban warfare tactics developed by troops fighting a nearly four-year-old Palestinian uprising.


It did not say what its source was, how many soldiers were involved or how long they would spend there.


"After completing their training, the units will return to Iraq," the English-language daily said.


Bobthedrummer posted this bit:

http://www.datafilter.com/mc/washPostUndergroundMilitary.html

Israel: Capital of Classified Bases

At the same time Peru was in the headlines, there were press reports that the United States and Israel had conducted an unusual joint military exercise in the Negev desert. Jane's Defence Weekly called it Israel's "first" exercise with the U.S. Air Force. The Jerusalem Post called it a "marked boost in military cooperation." Neither assertion is true, but that is the problem of an underground military policy. It is hard to know exactly what is going on.

In fact, the United States and Israel have a regular series of military exercises, going under the code names Juniper Stallion, Juniper Cobra, Noble Shirley, and other Juniper variations. A month before March's Juniper Stallion exercise, another American contingent was in Israel for Juniper Cobra, a tactical missile defense exercise which included test-firing Patriot missiles while the U.S. Navy Aegis destroyer USS Porter operated off the coast. The exercise, perhaps coincidentally, ended just five days before the February 16 U.S. and British air attacks against Iraqi air defense sites.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:21 PM
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14. of course they would deny it
its also not the first time I've heard this.

We do know that they have been destroying homes in their noble effort to bring Democracy to the Iraqi people.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 07:27 PM
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15. I need a "Lurch" emoticon...
:EEeergh:
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:29 PM
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2. So
This means that US troops will fire missiles at apartment buildings to catch just one person, even if it kills dozens of innocent ones.

I'm sorry, some US troops are already doing that.

It looks as if the new SS has been born.:(
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:45 PM
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3. Meet the new and improved
School of the Americas, Middle East campus.
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rlpincus Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:49 PM
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4. Posting to start a thread
again...
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:50 PM
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5. you know, there's a reason for that rule.
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 03:51 PM by thebigidea
Hey, here's a crazy idea - why not actually participate in discussions to earn the right to post new threads?
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:58 PM
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7. Some people are just born to drive the bus...
;)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:54 PM
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6. This cannot help but add to suspicions of Muslim countries
About the real purposes for invading Iraq, and any other U.S. interventions in the middle east. From that point of view, the optics are not good and it is questionable whether any tactical gains can exceed the strategic loss.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 04:10 PM
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9. Suspicions?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 04:19 PM
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10. Great Article
Thanks for posting it- I had not seen it before.
BHN
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 04:03 PM
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8. Oh great
Now maybe we can have as much success at "winning the war on terror" as the IDF has in Gaza and the West Bank.

All these "tactics" do are infuriate a people to the point of further terror attacks.

The current Israeli admin shouldn't even be an ally, must less train our military.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:05 PM
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12. Sure....their brilliant tactics have brought a just and lasting
peace and mutual respect between former enemies to Israel. Right?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:59 PM
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17. yup, and thus Iraq should soon become
peaceful and safe just like Israel.
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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:14 PM
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13. Now you know why Abu Gahrib happened. We are learning from the
masters of abuse and deceit and inhumanity.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 07:36 PM
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16. this suu.....ccks
:( :puke:...:nuke:
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