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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:26 PM
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Obama holds 41-point lead over Keyes
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Barack Obama has opened an even bigger lead over Alan Keyes than he had over Jim Ryan

The poll, conducted August 13-16, shows Obama with a 41 percent lead over Keyes. Obama sweeps all necessary constituencies by large margins, including African-American voters by 93 percent to 3 percent.

Moreover, 51 percent of Illinois voters disapprove of the selection by Republican Party leaders of Alan Keyes as the candidate for senate.

Conservative Republican leaders said they recruited Keyes to enter the race because Obama was “out of the mainstream” with Illinois voters. But Obama leads among Moderates 76 percent to 10 percent and wins a good share of fairly conservative voters – 49 percent.

at blue lemur, via PR newswire: http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=232
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:27 PM
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1. Fox News analysts say poll means they are neck-in-neck!
Sorry...couldn't resist adding some humor.
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:28 PM
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2. Is that all? Should be a 90 point lead. n/t
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 11:25 AM
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25. That's Nice, But Why Isn't Kerry In The Same Ballpark?
The situation is comparable: two guys of same race and age and status, one clinically deranged, the other not. Life just isn't fair!
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 03:59 PM
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28. Power of incumbency - Obama is on a level playing field.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:29 PM
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3. On the other hand, Keyes is giving Socialist and Libertarian candidates
a run for their money...
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 08:32 AM
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23. Please let Keyes take down the Four WHORSEMEN with him
Would be fitting to have Keyes take down Hyde, Hastert, Crane and La Hood with him!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:32 PM
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4. Thats within the margin of error, right? BBV machines and all
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:37 PM
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5. Spectacular!!!!
Barack's the one!
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:39 PM
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6. But Keyes has a plan
which may get him within 35 !
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:38 AM
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13. Alan Keyes Is Making Sense
And once people realize it, he'll get the big three-oh!


You know you're dead when that's the best thing you can say about your campaign.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:53 PM
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7. If Bush Comes To Campaign For Him It Will Be a 61 point spread
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 11:53 PM by redstateliberal
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:01 AM
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8. Repugs don't have any grip on reality, let alone the mainstream.
When they resort to sending a hardcore extremist like Keyes to represent the "mainstream", they are clearly way out of touch. I think it shows two things:
1) how radical the repugs have become.
2) how the repugs are failing to produce true leaders.

Thank goodness the Democratic Party is still the home of tremendous leaders like Obama. And thank goodness the People of Illinois have the good common sense to recognize a true leader.
:toast:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:12 AM
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9. Keyes Has Lost It.
He's for allowing Blacks to pay no income taxes as a way to give them reparations. He also demeaned Hillary for going to NY while he goes to Illinois.

He's gone. Obama is a voice for the future.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:26 AM
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11. Keyes never had it.
He makes a mockery of African Americans.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:25 AM
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10. Ok boys and girls say it with me.
In Illinois the culture war is over, and culture has won.
The class hatred of the right, wrapped in anti intellectualism
is failing in a truly gruesome way. Let's make sure the debates get a lot of airplay and comment.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:26 AM
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12. Obama will win DuPage County
Yes, all the white flight suburbanites are going to vote for a black politician from Chicago. The days of white flight politics--in Chicago anyway--are over.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 07:30 AM
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17. I sure hope Obama wins in DuPage!
Two votes from this household (and maybe three as I drag my son kicking and screaming to the church across the street to cast his first ever ballot LOL ).
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:47 AM
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14. The clinically insane
rarely poll well. No surprise here.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 01:23 AM
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15. More proof that god's mad at America for its wicked, wicked ways...
I guess that god guy's gonna teach us a lesson one of these days. Meanwhile, he just toys with us by felling the odd building here and there and dangling a savior like Keyes in front of us, only to deny us the grace of his victory and visionary service.

Crazier'n the proverbial shithouse rat.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 07:23 AM
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16. Here's my Sunday Morning Heresy:
I want Keyes to pull ahead. I think it would be great if he came within 10 points of Obama.

That's right. You heard me. Bet you didn't see that coming.

My reasons are as follows:
1. This would give credence and momentum to the idea that Keyes is the face of the mainstream Republican party, which would drive moderate Repubs in IL and nationwide into Libertarian or other parties. The Rebubs would be weakened in IL and in Congress. (I really think Canada's multi-party system is a whole lot saner than ours, and so that a proportionally strong Libertarian and Green party would be good for everyone.)

2. Having Keyes be so successful will keep a lot of IL racists--organized and otherwise--away from the polls. If you don't think that IL has a enough racists to shift the election, go to Murphysboro and ask any 10-year-old to tell you about the common nickname for the nearby town of Anna. Once, while taking a shortcut through that town on my way to Route 57, I saw a blackface effigy hanging by a noose in someone's garage. I'm not impugning all Illinoisans, but I have been around this place enough to know that there are quite a few Repubs who would never vote for someone who isn't white.

3. If the IL Repubs have their hopes smashed, they will be very cynical about their party, and this may depress their participation for decades.

Go on. Tell me what I'm missing.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 07:40 AM
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20. too subtle for mois
I'd rather that Keyes start strong (hey, just like 49% lead) and grow stronger, say, 80-12 with 8 percent for others.

That would teach those cretins a lesson. See, they are too set in their ways and too obtuse to learn anything from subtle hints.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 07:48 AM
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21. Mornin' petunia!
Could you explain this a bit? Wouldn't a 49% lead for Keyes at any point be very dangerous for Obama? How do you see this unfolding?
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 11:14 AM
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24. you are witness to too many guests mixed
with late hours and fine wine.

Silly petunia.

If I can't tell Obama and Keyes apart, sheeesh.

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 07:31 AM
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18. Enquiring Mimes Want To KNOW.
Does Keyes believe his own reviews enough to think that he has a snowball's chance against Obama?

Does he just crave attention, even if it's the negative sort?

Or did he get a lot of MONEY for being thrown to the wolves by the GOP?

:evilgrin:
dbt
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 07:38 AM
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19. Bet on the money
He has always paid himself a hefty salary out of his own campaign funds during previous failed candidacies.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 07:52 AM
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22. Keyes' candidacy is a great opportunity for democrats to exploit
divisions in the republican party. This race will be given a lot of national media attention. Democrats all over the country should constantly refer to Keyes as a main stream republican, representing the values of all true republicans and the republican party.

Keyes is nearly as mentally unbalanced as Bush and is so manaical and extremist that millions of republicans all over the country will resent being identified with him. Bush might even try to distance himself from Keyes. The Reich wing fundamentalists will howl with hatred of any republican who criticizes Keyes on the issues.

Another possibility is to quote Keyes' criticisms of Bush as often as possible. This could cause some Reich wingers' heads to explode since they love Keyes but worship the LordGodBush.

This race can be used to sow some serious seeds of discord within the republican party and maybe start an internal struggle that will lead to the end of the control that the Reich wing fundamentalists have over the party.

Obama should also demand that Keyes denounce the Swift Boat ads.

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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 11:26 AM
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26. Correctamundo, snippy!!! Dems could take this all the way to congress
If only they WOULD!! We could un-seat so many repukes in ALL races if the Dems would use the strategy you're proposing here....BECAUSE IT'S TRUE!!!

WHY WHY WHY don't Dems start using this type of ad, 24/7?? It's a winning scenario to win over independents, swing voters, and moderate republicans!! Keyes really DOES represent "mainstream" republicans... he just doesn't represent AMERICAN VOTERS!!

Please send your recommendation on this to Kerry and the DNC. In fact, we should ALL bombard them with this message.

:kick::kick::kick:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:28 PM
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27. just read the Chicago Tribune poll & story
3 times because it makes me happy. I only wish for the Obama lead to get bigger and bigger each week. Read elsewhere that the GOP Springfield, IL meeting last week was a very quiet affair...that the GOP leaders gave at best only polite applause to Keyes but that was about it. teehee.
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