Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Wal-Mart Cuts Sales View; Stock Dips

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:13 PM
Original message
Wal-Mart Cuts Sales View; Stock Dips
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=GLPKNGLAHTI3MCRBAEZSFFA?type=businessNews&storyID=6047153

<SNIP>
By Emily Kaiser
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) lowered its August sales forecast on Monday because of disappointing back-to-school demand, casting doubt on the strength of U.S. consumer spending in a key shopping season.

Wal-Mart, the world's biggest retailer and a bellwether of the U.S. economy, now expects August sales at U.S. stores open at least a year to be flat to up 2 percent. It had previously forecast a 2 percent to 4 percent increase.

Shares of Wal-Mart fell 1.7 percent on the New York Stock Exchange near midday on Monday, weighing on the Dow Jones industrial average .

The back-to-school shopping season, which peaks in August, is the second-biggest retail sales period behind the Thanksgiving-to-Christmas holiday season.

Analysts and retailers have cautioned that soaring gasoline prices and tough comparisons against last year's tax-credit-inflated performance would likely hurt August sales across the retail sector.

"The low-income customer is badly affected by the robbery at the gas pump," said Kurt Barnard, head of consulting firm Retail Forecasting Group. "If you have an income of $50,000 or $70,000 a year, another dime in the price of gas isn't going to kill you, but if you're at $35,000 it can bankrupt you."
</SNIP>

Are we around that damned corner yet?

Jay
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
1. Music to my ears
Walmart is pure evil.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. That's Not The Point.
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 03:17 PM by jayfish
The fact of the matter is that Wal-Mart is not going anywhere, anytime soon. If people are not spending money, even where prices are at their lowest, then we are in more trouble. I do agree that Wal-Mart is bad though.

Jay
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Good point
Still, it warms my heart to see Wal-Mart sweat regardless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #4
16. It warms my heart too. I hate them so much. I have boycotted them
and only enter if I can't find it anywhere else and can't wait for it to come in the mail.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. but it is nice to The Evil Empire
take a hit in the shorts. I'm curioius to other chain stores sales.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #3
24. I don't need f***ing Wal-Mart inidicators
to tell me our economy is in deep trouble.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Some Do. -NT-
Jay
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #1
23. If it's a result of a boycott because of Wal-Mart practices it's good..
If it is an indicator lower income people are suffering more, then it is not a good thing. We need to see how others are doing such as Costco and Target. Who knows maybe when Oprah did her shows on shopping at Costco and also one that featured Target she sent a message to the woman that control most of the household spending to avoid Wal-Mart. The Oprah show is for average, working Americans, many times she does some really inspirational shows to help average people have more courage to make their lives better - oh and some shows just suck.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. "so many corners, we're going in circles"
JK said that in La Junta, my, how true it is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
6. Bottom line
Cut sales will equal cut jobs. They will cut people to preserve profit.
This is an economic indicator, consumer purchases are linked to economic health.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. And They Are The Largest Employer In The World.
I despise Wal-Mart, but I would rather see them changed from within by unionization efforts and the like than simply being put out of business. Next to undocumented workers, the rank and file who work for Wal-Mart are some of the most vulnerable in our society. I would not want them to suffer just to see Wal-Mart tank.

Jay
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:26 PM
Response to Original message
7. Short the pro-Bush companies. It'll pay off for sure.
HomeDepot has benefitted from plenty of Bush visits and from "support the troops" kind of stuff. Their CEO Nardelli is an unabashed Bush fan. Short them. They're out of touch.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #7
17. boycott Home Depot too. There are other home stores just as good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:53 PM
Response to Original message
9. Yikes!
In previous downturns, high-end retailers felt the pain while low-end retailers like Wal-Mart were largely spared because people were desperately bargain-hunting. When Wal-Mart sales are down, it means that people are just doing without.

Or could it be that the Anywhere-But-Walmart shoppers are having the desired effect?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. I think there are many more people today
who can't afford anything better than WalMart as compared to, let's say, 10 years ago. Target is even too expensive. I also think that what used to be the store for everyone years ago was Sears and that was basically for the middle class. WalMart is for the "lower" (I hate the word but can't find another) class and all the midle class being squeezed into lower middle or lower class. Walmart is the store that shows where America is going; the middle class being destroyed. WHen people can no longer afford to even shop at that dump which screws its own workers like crazy, that is one very bad sign. The nearest Walmart to me is always crowded. The more middle class stores are empty and losing business. I also notice this with grocery stores. The discounters like Aldi are getting a lot of business I think not just from cost-saving consumers but consumers who literally can't afford the non-discounters. Sears used to have great pensions and health plans for its workers. Walmart has none unless you want to consider their health plans that its workers can't afford.

The old biggest (US largest employer at one time) middle class retailer Sears which used to provide good plans for its employees is hurting like crazy the last several years and the discounter,Walmart is now the largest US employer and screws its workers and offers cheap goods to the mass of the population. A telling sign where the US population is going.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RazzleCat Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:58 PM
Response to Original message
10. Just Wondering
Ok, I just finished my back to school shopping for the kid. I did not spend a single cent at Wally World, I did it all at a combo of Target and Walgreens (what can I say, I always forget something). So do you think others just maybe more people were like me and refused to shop Wally World? FYI Target and Wally are next to each other in the same strip mall in my neighborhood.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Could be, RazzleCat -- welcome to DU!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. I donated about 20 very good ring binders to Goodwill....suprise
what you can find there. I used to have a job where I had to use them. I even go to re-sale shops to avoid evil Wall-Mart
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:09 PM
Response to Original message
12. Good. I couldn't be happier
Walmart has all but closed down Main Street in my former Iowa town. I loathe this company.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:27 PM
Response to Original message
14. 50k here
the extra dime isn't going to bankrupt you. too bad its not in taxes, which could fix the damn infrastructure & pay for public transpo.

its going to the house of saud.

A POX ON WAL MART! DON'T EVER SHOP BIG BOX!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:40 PM
Response to Original message
15. I am doing my part to make sure their sales drop.....eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:59 PM
Response to Original message
19. Wal-Mart is a manifestation of Satan
.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. wallmart bad
COSTCO GOOD COSTCO GOOD
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:50 PM
Response to Original message
21. Good and after lobbying so American workers like my mother can lose
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 09:51 PM by Classical_Liberal
their overtime pay, I am going to make sure they lose more business. My mother wasn't convinced of how evil enough not to shop at before, but once she hears about the overtime thing, I'll bet she won't darken their fucking doors again. I hope Walmart fades into obscurity like McDonalds is. I have two sisters and a father that won't go there anymore either. Eat shit Walmart!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:56 PM
Response to Original message
22. Maybe this is happening because workers are starting to hate Walmart
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 09:56 PM by Classical_Liberal
Afterall Walmart just lobbied to cut overtime pay for their main customers, working class moms.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:42 PM
Response to Original message
26. If someone with income of $35,000 can be banktupted, how about
$25,000? I'm not bankrupt, and I don't shop at Walmart! I won't! When I heard, from employees, how they treat their people, I refused to go in their stores! I watch what we spend, for sure, but I promote sales at any other store than theirs.

I am glad to hear their sales are down! Profit is the ONLY this that matters to these people, and maybe when they lose a lot of customers, they will realize why so many hate them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 09:18 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC