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Garion_55 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:19 PM
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Zogby: Kerry increases electoral lead.
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 07:35 PM by Garion_55
didnt see this posted anywhere yet.

In the latest Zogby Interactive poll, President Bush ''musters a lead in just two battleground states. The other 14 states in the poll go to Mr. Kerry, giving him his biggest lead -- in terms of the number of states -- since Zogby began conducting twice-a-month polls for WSJ.com in late May.''

Zogby's new electoral vote count shows Kerry leading 324 to 214, an even larger lead than the most recent Electoral Vote Predictor

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-battleground04-0823print.html


I was thinking. Maybe the dems could contribute to the swiftys campaign so that they could continue to run those ads. They seem to be helping kerry. LOL!!!

How pissed would the GOP be next week if they go to all the trouble to put on the convention and tell their vision of the future, win voters to their side and no one is hearing it cuz all the media is still talking about vietnam LOL!!

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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:29 PM
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1. Whoa, good news. He may be able to do this.
NT
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:11 AM
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23. Kerry 322 EV! For a comprehensive simulation analysis of the latest Zogby
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:33 PM
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2. sorry don't buy the Ohio figures
Outside of Cincinnati, many other places are going Kerry. Bush is toasted in northern OH.
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Garion_55 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:36 PM
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3. Thats my guess too.
Even if they are accurate, Ohio is probably a little slower than the rest of the country but they will catch on LOL!!
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:45 PM
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9. They do look a little high for the BFEE.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:39 PM
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4. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Over in Freak Republic they think their swift boat smears are voodoo magic. Let em sleep.

(Only we Pagans know that what you cast comes back thrice)


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Garion_55 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:41 PM
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5. SORRY!!! my bad
kerry lead? what lead? have no idea what you are talking about.


nothing to see here, move along.
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:41 PM
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6. Looks good!
Only two 20th century candidates hae won the presidency without carrying Ohio, but it still looks good for Kerry. Plus, as that site shows, other recent polls have Kerry statistically tied (with an actual slight lead percentage wise), so that is good too.

It looks good for him so far. Just gotta stay on course through the debates and we'll be ready for a great fight to the end!
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:06 PM
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15. Go Kerry- Go Titans
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:43 PM
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7. The SB vet's 15 minutes of fame is about over
by Thursday, almost all media attention will be on the RNC.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:44 PM
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8. You go Tennessee!!! Wow
Bonnaroo Music fest in central TN was strong ABB crowd 100,000 people.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:04 PM
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13. Middle TN is Democratic Stronghold
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 08:04 PM by redstateliberal
I hope to be changing my screen name Nov 3
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:47 PM
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10. A cheer leader girlie man!
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:54 PM
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11. Posted them this morning.
In a number of electoral projections, Kerry has increased his electoral leads. In the battle ground states, Kerry is ahead in all but tow in ZOgby's latest, With Bush haivng only Ohio and West Virginia.

Todays Electoral Vote. Com has:

Electoral Vote Predictor 2004: Kerry 307 Bush 211

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Rasmussen has an actual count of the current electoral votes that they have for each candidate holding right now:

Election 2004

Electoral College

Bush 183
Kerry 203
Toss-Up 152
RasmussenReports.com

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Electoral%20College%20Projection.htm


Election Projection:

Electoral Votes: Bush 227, Kerry 311
Popular Vote: Bush 47.4%, Kerry 50.7%


http://www.electionprojection.com/

Robert Silvey's Report, has Kerry lower than others, but still winnning by a comfortable margin.


Electoral College Update 23
Kerry 296, Bush 242 electoral votes. The latest projection, based on averages of all recent state-by-state polls, shows Nevada now in the Bush column.

The alternate calculation of swing states yields the same result. Among the 19 swing states in 2000, Florida, New Hampshire, and West Virginia are on track to change parties, moving from Bush to Kerry. Bush has not moved ahead in any state.

http://www.robertsilvey.com/notes/2004_electoral_college_updates/index.html


Kerry has taken a small hit in a few of these polls as a result of the Swift Boat Controversy, but that has started turining around again as numerous reports of the facts that the Swift Boat Veterans have no documentation to back up their claims, and the very inconsistant stories told by their front men, Like Mr Thurlow, who has gone from stating he had no idea he had ever won a Bronze Star, to stating to that he would never had accepted it if he knew that he had won it under the claims made that it was presented with, to , once being told that he had to know, as the full information as to the conditions of being under massive enemy fire were printed on the citation that came with the medal, afterwhich he calims he lost the citation 20 or 25 years ago.

Also now that a number of people who the Swift Boat Veterans used in theri commercials are coming out and making it known that their pictures were being used without their permissions, and they were being quoted as saying things they never said, and that some are not only not neutral about it, but actually support Kerry, to the elected official in Oregon who Oregon Veterans are demanding be kciked out of office for lying in the Swift Boat Commercial (claimed he was with Kerry, but the fact is that he heard the stories from other members of Swift Boat Veterans and just lied for the commercial), and finally, the media investigations that have almost completely dismissed the possibility of most of the tales being told by the Swift Boat Veterans as being true. The highest level officer involved with this group has refused to talk to the press, as they have found all his stories conflict with all of his past statements up all the way until 1996, when he still supported and confirmed Kerry's version.

Within a few weeks, this all may turn adverse against Bush. Recent polls indicate that Kerry has gotten a rather large boost among independents since the Swift Boat Commercials, and that the recent tightening up of polls in Bush's polling data reflects a tightening up of Bush's base, and that the increase in the polls comes almomst completely from REpublicans who were sitting on the sidelines as "undecideds, from the percentages of Republicans who had not made up their minds ,and some who were supporting Kerry (a very small percentage of both Democrats and Republicans have fit the crossover voter pattern, though this percentage is the smallest that there has been in decades, usually about 10 percent of Republicans crossed over to vote Dem, and 8 percent Dems crossed over to vote Republican, but this has shrunk to about half that during this campaign)

Last week, DC's Political Report had Kerry trailing Bush by ONE electoral vote, after months of Kerry being very far ahead of Bush in his polls, due to the Swift Boat confusion. THis was partially a result of DC's report changing methodology of reports, and awarding the Electoral votes only if the candidates poll ahead in states beyond the margin of errors in those polls.

In DC's current weekly analysis, updated today:

THe latest results have Kerry now with 15 more electoral voted than Bush with 199 EV, 142 EV in polls beyond MoE in 11 States, 57 lectoral Votes in 7 states within polling MoE.

Bush has 184 EV with 151 in 16 states outside of MoE. 33 EV in 3 states within MoE.

In states too close to tell, Kerry is ahead in five states for 86 Electoral Votes. Bush ahead in 3 states for 42 Electoral Votes.

One State is tied for 9 Electoral Votes (Colorado???????????????)

Five states ave nor polls for 17 EV, whihc DC has divided up as 2 states for Kerry for 6 Electoral Votes, 3 for Bush, for 11 Electoral Votes.

http://www.dcpoliticalreport.com/CurrentPolls.htm

While I have followed DC for a while, I have found at times the polls suddnely got a bit askewed, and for a while they just stayed un-updated for unknown reasons.

DC's Placing California in a too close to tell status while for most polls over the last two months, Kerry's lead in California has been in double digits, and only a recent polls has shown Kerry and Bush withn 3 points of each other in that state a little puzzling.

In any case, this projection, all things staying the same, give Kerry a win by a good number of electoral votes.

So far, while the Swift Boat tales have had an effect, they seem to be falling away, as the major media has started shedding a lot of light on the questionable nature of "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth", regarding its funding, the inconsistant stories of its fruont men, the need for members of Bush;s campaign to quit because of their relations with the group, the fact that several of the peopole who were quoted are pissecd as hell at having their names used as supporting the group against Kerry when they are either neutral or support Kerry, among other news about the group. I would guess that before the election, this will either have no effect on Kerry among swing voters, or have an adverse effect on Bush, but i think the former is most likely.

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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:05 PM
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14. Great news
Math doesn't lie my friend. This looks solid for Kerry. I'd like to see bigger leads in California, but at least we got a lead there.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:45 PM
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16. Great post!
Thanks for the encouraging information. :thumbsup:
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zoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:46 PM
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17. What about F911...
I heard Moore was going to release his movie on DVD in October. I think this could be Kerry's big boost in poll numbers. There are many people who didn't see the movie because it wasn't shown in their area. Does anyone know for sure when this will be released?
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kevin881 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 02:33 AM
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25. uh, california barely kerry? i dont buy these stats
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:57 PM
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12. I keep seeing new Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers every day in N.C.!
Swiftliars are getting debunked very nicely this week (today especially in what I have read and seen on TV.)

Also I have enjoyed hearing Edwards (on great Saturday radio address about the OT crap) and seeing him on T.V. several times this week too. He is a great asset.

Love that sissyBush cheerleader pic!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:24 PM
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18. Hit him hard Kerry!!!!.......Be relentlous!!!
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:08 PM
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19. TN is a blue state!!!
I'm so damn happy right now. Didn't think I'd see the day when my state went Blue again!

Huge kudos to our new Dem Gov! People are impressed as hell with what all he has done in the relatively short amount of time in office!

I'm telling you if the Kerry folks send Edwards though here at least twice in Knoxville, Nashville, Memphis Kerry will have this state. Folks here like Kerry but I'm telling you all they LOVE Edwards! My 69 year old mom and her 80 year old best friend are absolutely in love with the guy! It's so cute!

Anyways... Go VOLS help Kerry give us our country back!
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heidler1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:49 PM
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20. Bush wants to drop all 527 ads because they ain't working.
"I was thinking. Maybe the dems could contribute to the swiftys campaign so that they could continue to run those ads. They seem to be helping Kerry. LOL!!!"

Kerry did lose a few supporters when the swift boat crap started, but he has pretty well gained it back. I voted no on dropping the issue in the MSNBC question of the day because Bush would not have been in favor of dropping them if they were working for him.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:54 AM
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24. if bushie wants to drop the 527s, and he means it, he should just demand
they be dropped. their dirty tricks are going to backfire so bad it'll be like rove woke up in an alternate reality and can't find his bearings.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:52 PM
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21. This is just peachy!
This whole g--d---- thing has kept my asshole so tight for so long, I bet I lose 10 pounds next week!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 12:03 AM
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22. At what point will it be appropriate to begin mailing W....
... forks? (i.e. "stick a fork in him, he's done")
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