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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:32 PM
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NYT: A Trail Leads to Rumsfeld
WASHINGTON, Aug. 24 - For Donald H. Rumsfeld to resign over the prison abuses at Abu Ghraib would be a mistake, the four-member panel headed by James M. Schlesinger asserted on Tuesday. But in tracing responsibility for what went wrong at Abu Ghraib, it drew a line that extended to the defense secretary's office.

The panel cited what it called major failures on the part of Mr. Rumsfeld and his aides in not anticipating and responding swiftly to the post-invasion insurgency in Iraq. On the eve of the Republican convention, that verdict could not have been welcome at the White House, where postwar problems in Iraq represent perhaps President Bush's greatest political liability.

The report rarely mentions Mr. Rumsfeld by name, referring most often instead to the "office of the secretary of defense.'' But as a sharp criticism of postwar planning for Iraq, it represents the most explicit official indictment to date of an operation that was very much the province of Mr. Rumsfeld and his top deputies.

"Any defense establishment should adapt quickly to new conditions as they arise, and in this case, we were slow, at least in the judgment of the members of this panel, to adapt accordingly after the insurgency started in the summer of 2003,'' Mr. Schlesinger, a former defense secretary himself, said in presenting the panel's findings at the Pentagon on Tuesday.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/25/politics/25assess.html?hp
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:34 PM
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1. High crimes unaccounted for!!!.....(even by this press)
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:58 PM
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2. So, Rumsfeld is responsible
But he shouldn't be held responsible.

Just another day in the wacky world of Bush's America.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:33 AM
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15. exactly..... teflon mafia
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:01 PM
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3. what is this, the LAND OF MAKE-BELIEVE? is NOBODY responsible for ANYTHING
in this administration?

IMPEACH!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:21 PM
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4. Kskiska, Here's the Trail:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:25 PM
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5. That Is Pretty Much It, Mr. Zephyr
"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:05 PM
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8. Oh, that's a good one, David
There's a wealth of stuff out there for cartoonists.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:30 PM
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6. He's toast
I expect him to resign within the next two weeks (probably to spend more time with the dumsfeld family)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:33 PM
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7. How I wish this would be true...
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:17 PM
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9. Let me see if I have this straight...
The trail has led to the secdef, and proven him totally friggin' incompetant...and he should not even resign? What sort of stupid fools are we?!
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 12:12 AM
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10. They're paid to give that conclusion, even though it doesn't fit the facts
hmmm, I'm sensing a pattern...

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 12:33 AM
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11. Thanks, I must be getting tired...
even now, knowing what I know, I keep expecting integrity. Gotta keep thinking...down is up...freedom is slavery...strength is weakness...good is bad...right is wrong...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 12:35 AM
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12. Double strength teflon
Rumsfailed Admitted to Violating Geneva Convention

Rumsfailed admitted in public that when CIA Director Tenet requested that an Irai prisoner be sent to a secret Afghan/US Prison that Rumsfailed did so. After four months a DOD Attorney stated that this was an illegal act. Rumsfailed then ordered that this prisoner be sent back to Abu Graib but the prisoner was not listed at that location. That is two violations of the Geneva Convention. Tenet and Rumsfailed violated the Geneva convention, thereby also The Constitution of the USA. Not one complaint or charge was made regarding Rumsfailed and Tenet, not even by any Dem in Congress.

Does the US no longer follow the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA?

It appears so.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:03 AM
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13. Is the "Office of the Sec'y of Defense" Infested with Evil Spirits?
Is the "Office of the Sec'y of Defense" infested with Evil Spirits
that order up torture and murder without any of the "people" who
inhabit said office being aware of it?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:31 AM
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14. Pretty good article by Douglas Jehl -- E-MAIL: djehl@nytimes.com
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